Most memorable doped perfomances?

[Mrs John Murphy]

Dertie today. 2/2

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Horner yesterday

 

[roundabout]

Dertie today. 2/2

That's not memorable. It's something I'd like to repress and pretend that it never happened.

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

That's not memorable. It's something I'd like to repress and pretend that it never happened.

Memorable doesn't have to be a positive experience.

Memorable for all of the wrong reasons.

Memorable for highlighting all that is wrong in the sport.

 

[roundabout]

I know. Still it doesn't make it any easier to watch.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Dertie today. 2/2

Why?

Was it 500 watts, or 7 W/kg after a 240 km stage or 40 mins climb or done by a 39 yr. old man never been seen before ???

There are at least 100 performances dirtier than this one.
I mean i don´t like AC, and he shouldn´t be there, but that doesn´t qualify as dirtiest performances...

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

I agree entirely. For me it's made worse by listening to Harmon touch himself up like a madman and pretend that there is absolutely nothing amiss.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Who is Harmon?

I watch german Eurosport. They don´t miss to mention doping, but still make the stages enjoyable by giving a one liner now and then.

 

[spalco]

Who is Harmon?

I watch german Eurosport. They don´t miss to mention doping, but still make the stages enjoyable by giving a one liner now and then.

The primary commentator of UK Eurosport for big cycling races.

And using this stage as an example of most memorable doped performances is just ridiculous imo. I mean even Gadret and Dupont finished ahead of all the supposed favourites. Not Contadors fault if nobody (except Rujano) wants to race with him.

 

[lurveleven]

Horner yesterday

+1 it's way up there

 

[nvpacchi]

As much as I love Iban Mayo his ITT up Ventoux in the 2004 Dauphine was insane.

Record time, 23.2 km/hr avg speed, destroying a slew of dopers by 2 minutes, plus the strangest looking kit or skinsuit I've ever seen

His bibs are so high up he makes it seem like he's riding that fast to make the 3:00PM dinner special at the local diner.

 

[blackcat]

different one for me.

Cavendish at Milan San Remo.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Horner yesterday

I have to correct myself. Horner today. A young talented 19 year old.... err, a old man never seen until 2010 puts over 1 minute on a world-class field, again. Thanks to beetroot juice

He´ll be busted latest at the TdF if he finishes in the Top-20. If he finishes like 106th, 2 hrs. down, i think he rides the TdF, full of fear, clean, keeping his perfect "0-Score" on the Suspicion-List...

 

[Garry Allen]

His DS is Johann Bruyneel. that should be an automatic +8 on the suspicion list right there. I liked Chris. I think he was clean for most of his career. Manolo Saiz - automatic +7. Patrick Lefevre - automatic +6.5

 

[Benotti69]

David Zabriskie 2011 ToC TT

 

[erik saunders]

Gewiss-Ballan, 1994, Fleche Wallone.
Worse than Mapei's Roubaix IMO.

+1000

and then i am sure it was a key of coke and hookers all around...

 

[jamesporpoise]

Loving the speculation that Horner rode most of his career clean. I have no doubt he was uber-talented to begin with, but he's been on the sh*t for many, many years.

 

[The Hitch]

I have one in mind today

 

[thehog]

I have one in mind today

Lucky there wasn't any hairpin bends on todays climb as Sky would need to replace their break pads.

 

[hiero2]

Not to be deliberately contrary, but I always thought both of them appeared quite authentic at the time. For full on dopers, they appeared human.

Here is MY problem with the question. Very few performances seem to me to have been completely unbelievable. The earlier mentioned team 1-2-3 results (Gewiss?, Mapei?) of the early & mid-90's raised red flags. Lance's "recovery" after "the bonk" raised flags - as did Landis's solo. Pantani & Vino gave us suspicious performances.

That always defines the problem for me. I might be suspicious, but how can I, a mere observer, and not even at roadside, tell anything for sure? I can't. I have my opinions, based on experience and what has been learned in recent years due to investigations and punishment dished out.

Up until LA was looking at #6, I believed the line about superior aerobic capacity, smarter training, etc etc. And, actually, most of those lines are probably true - to some extent. When you lie, it is best to tell mostly the truth, otherwise the lies get unbelievable.

So, since the day I was convinced LA doped, I've been sure the George H doped while working for LA. Those team performances were just TOO dominant. But, by that same criteria, this year I suspect Boonen, De Gendt, and Sagan. Somehow their performances seem "too good to be true". Since Gilbert has been unable to repeat - he gets a virtual red "A" brand on his forehead. Ditto the Schlecks. Whereas Cancellara and Cav get a clean book in my opinion - they repeat results, even when they change teams.

 

[hiero2]

Lucky there wasn't any hairpin bends on todays climb as Sky would need to replace their break pads.

I really hate to say it, but unfortunately, the performance does bring to mind the dominance of US Postal.

Wiggins still has his historical anti-doping stance that I count in his favor. And, Froome has shown similar GT dominance in past performances. And, Evans has stated he believes Sky has the strongest team this year.

On the down side, we have a suspicious blood value test for Wiggins, and a series of performances that are almost "too good to be true". I can find a number of reasons that could fit those blood values into a real-life clean scenario, but that is not definitive.

If I can ever get my **** in serious shape again - I'm just gonna go out riding instead of being a fan. I love racing, and I would rather be doing than watching. (RL has been in my way for a few decades on this). I'm actually making progress this year on this goal. I get so tired of all this chatter and speculation. But, I know, I don't have to be here participating either. I must like to talk about it some - actions speak loudest, eh?

 

[nevada]

I think you shoul all be asking why were all the other contenders all over the place. It must be cleaner if the brits are winning.

 

[thehog]

I really hate to say it, but unfortunately, the performance does bring to mind the dominance of US Postal.

Wiggins still has his historical anti-doping stance that I count in his favor. And, Froome has shown similar GT dominance in past performances. And, Evans has stated he believes Sky has the strongest team this year.

On the down side, we have a suspicious blood value test for Wiggins, and a series of performances that are almost "too good to be true". I can find a number of reasons that could fit those blood values into a real-life clean scenario, but that is not definitive.

If I can ever get my **** in serious shape again - I'm just gonna go out riding instead of being a fan. I love racing, and I would rather be doing than watching. (RL has been in my way for a few decades on this). I'm actually making progress this year on this goal. I get so tired of all this chatter and speculation. But, I know, I don't have to be here participating either. I must like to talk about it some - actions speak loudest, eh?

His blood values are that of Landis in 2006. Nothing different.

 

[Maxiton]

I think you shoul all be asking why were all the other contenders all over the place. It must be cleaner if the brits are winning.

That's exactly the problem. On the whole the peloton surely is cleaner, and performances more credible, over the past few years. But if one doped team dominates like this and gets away with it, it's a green light for the other teams. Has to be.

 

[FitSsikS]

Hmm...How about Rudy Dhaenens and Dirk De Wolf at the 1990 Worlds?

They seemed to surprise themselves.