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Red Rick said:
The Dutch speed skaters, Sochi was hilarious

Beat me to it, just.

If you want to know the real dirt, then look into the sudden rise of some Dutch speed skaters in the late '90s.
 
Lasse Viren was the first time i ever heard talk of doping in sport. Why my Dad thought he was dirty but the East Germans were clean I have no idea. oh and Jarmila Kratochvilova although I think his opinion was that she was a man rather than a doper. 32 years and counting she broke the 800m world record.
 
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Lyon said:
In skiing there is the Bavarian-Spanish miracle, but I more vividly remember Maurizio De Zolt running a 50k without his feet even touching the ground. Non-Norwegians might add Alsgaard in the 30k at Lillehammer.

Who is that Bavarian-Spanish miracle?

Drug dwarf Messi has to be mentioned too, as should 33 years old Serena Williams.
 
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Defiets said:
Lyon said:
In skiing there is the Bavarian-Spanish miracle, but I more vividly remember Maurizio De Zolt running a 50k without his feet even touching the ground. Non-Norwegians might add Alsgaard in the 30k at Lillehammer.
Who is that Bavarian-Spanish miracle?

Drug dwarf Messi has to be mentioned too, as should 33 years old Serena Williams.

Muhlegg
 
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The Chinese female swimmer, whose name escapes me, from London 2012. Won a relay in which she swam one leg faster than Phelps, and has since barely medalled at any event and disappeared semi-without-trace


ETA: I remember the name now - Ye Shiwen
 
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42x16ss said:
A lot of great calls here, but I want to throw another name up that rarely gets mentioned:

Michael Jordan.

Yes, he had phenomenal skill and vision, but his fitness, strength, lack of injury and uncanny runs of form - too good to believe IMO. During his reign the physical attributes of players changed completely. Shooting guards started bulking, forwards started becoming man mountains and centres went from lean giants to almost blotting out the sun.

Nah. He just trained harder. Hours in the gym. Hours practicing on the court. Kids don't do that anymore.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9zSVu76AX3I
 
Aug 31, 2012
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That's a powerful advert.

Hard work remains our favourite causes of success of any type. People get really irritated if you point out that this isn't backed up by the data.
 
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SeriousSam said:
That's a powerful advert.

Hard work remains our favourite causes of success of any type. People get really irritated if you point out that this isn't backed up by the data.

I'd be more inclined to point out doping helps you work harder for longer. If said athlete is claimed to have worked harder for longer than anyone else, then it kind of follows how they did it, right?
 
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cnfdugo said:
Red Rick said:
The Dutch speed skaters, Sochi was hilarious

Johann Olav Koss - Winter Olympics 1994. Thx Conconi!
he was an intimate partner with an australian swimmer at the time, think her name is/was Sam Riley, breastroker or breast-stroker/breaststroker olympic medallist. she had a dodgy pedophile coach i think.
 
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Dear Wiggo said:
I'd be more inclined to point out doping helps you work harder for longer. If said athlete is claimed to have worked harder for longer than anyone else, then it kind of follows how they did it, right?
this^

"I'm on my bike, what are you on?"
 
Mar 13, 2009
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42x16ss said:
A lot of great calls here, but I want to throw another name up that rarely gets mentioned:

Michael Jordan.

Yes, he had phenomenal skill and vision, but his fitness, strength, lack of injury and uncanny runs of form - too good to believe IMO. During his reign the physical attributes of players changed completely. Shooting guards started bulking, forwards started becoming man mountains and centres went from lean giants to almost blotting out the sun.

definitely,

those traps and shoulders, you dont grow them merely in a gym with free weights. not with the North Carolina Tarheels body where he was lean like a 1500 metre runner. Yes, he could grow muscle, but growing significant muscle not as a full time clean bodybuilder... nope. He had to play 100 games of bball a year at his peak going to the finals in the playoffs. in cycling terms #NOTNORMAL

it was the larry johnson, anthony mason era when bodybuilders entered the sport.

then last decade, Artest/MetaWorldPeace, and the rebounding champ from Detroit, Wallace?

then the Orlando centre most recently, not Shaq, but him too. But the most recent one, who also went to LA Lakers. He followed the Shaquille peripatetic moves, Orlando to LA. What is his name? the current guy?

Then the current MVP at Cleveland out of Miami out of Cleveland originally. Tho he did lose significant weight about 24 months back. Lebron. James

oh, lets go back to the original Shaq. See is body at LSU. Lousiana State University. See his body. He was a skinny centre. OK, mebbe not as skinny as Kareem Abdul Jabaar, but he was lean.


Tiger Woods. too.
 
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Cake said:
The Chinese female swimmer, whose name escapes me, from London 2012. Won a relay in which she swam one leg faster than Phelps, and has since barely medalled at any event and disappeared semi-without-trace


ETA: I remember the name now - Ye Shiwen
hands as buckets. thnx Dear Wiggo
 
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HelmutRoole said:
Dara Torres. Olympic silver medalist, swimming, at 41.


no no no

merely Chris Horner genes.

does not matter that Dara's husband is a doc
 
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blackcat said:
cnfdugo said:
Red Rick said:
The Dutch speed skaters, Sochi was hilarious

Johann Olav Koss - Winter Olympics 1994. Thx Conconi!
he was an intimate partner with an australian swimmer at the time, think her name is/was Sam Riley, breastroker or breast-stroker/breaststroker olympic medallist. she had a dodgy pedophile coach i think.

Brett Sutton? Champion horse racing coach, swimming coach, and now champion Ironman coach? I don't see any link there....
 
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slowspoke said:
blackcat said:
cnfdugo said:
Red Rick said:
The Dutch speed skaters, Sochi was hilarious

Johann Olav Koss - Winter Olympics 1994. Thx Conconi!
he was an intimate partner with an australian swimmer at the time, think her name is/was Sam Riley, breastroker or breast-stroker/breaststroker olympic medallist. she had a dodgy pedophile coach i think.

Brett Sutton? Champion horse racing coach, swimming coach, and now champion Ironman coach? I don't see any link there....

Whoops, sorry wrong pedo swim coach.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...exual-abuse-allegedly-subjected-training.html