Mustafa Sayar positive

[pastronef]

Misspellithropoietine.

ahahaha..

 

[vecchias]

Shame on Torku. I hope they finally start to take some serious action. Two years in a row is just too much, disgusting.

Tour of Turkey is trying to grow year by year. Every time more high profile riders are coming. Young talents and sprinters are preferring ToT.

It's no secret that Turkey is not a cycling country but this whole "let's don't do ToT anymore" thing is just as ridiculous as Mustafa's performance.

 

[kingjr]

Kittel was right? I couldn't find any tweets of his regarding the Tour of Algeria though.

That's because he didn't ride the Tour of Algeria. In Turkey he saw the guy with injection marks all over his arm and he wasn't the only one, Terpstra said the same in an interview for dutch TV if I'm not mistaken.

 

[TANK91]

I think some ow Kittel an apology people were moaning when he called Sayer out and he was right.

 

[TANK91]

It is easy to pick the obvious brown guy on a small team that no one in Europe cares about. Where is Kittel when it comes to the obvious white guy on the big team in the Tour?

This white guy has won 4GT stage been in countless leader jersey, countless doping controls and still ZERO positive. Now lets talk some facts it is 2013 not 2000 this year we have had Santambrogio caught we had Contador caught few yrs back so clearly better testing F.Schleck was also caught so plenty of stars their, no? Yet you think they are somehow covering up Froome, do you no how pathetic you sound you live in the clinic all day everyday and you think that its possible to beat the test ha ha lol 2013 , not 2000. Armstrong tests now show positive we will have some from 1998 soon and you think Froome has got away with it since 2011, if they found a tiny bit of Clen from Alberto im sure they will find some from Froome. Bro its just sad always accusing him that's all im saying, don't you atleast agree with the points I say that now it is a lot harder to cheat?, or are you gonna chuck a 1 liner at me and say Armstrong dint fail a test.

 

[IndianCyclist]

Finally

 

[BYOP88]

This white guy has won 4GT stage been in countless leader jersey, countless doping controls and still ZERO positive. Now lets talk some facts it is 2013 not 2000 this year we have had Santambrogio caught we had Contador caught few yrs back so clearly better testing F.Schleck was also caught so plenty of stars their, no? Yet you think they are somehow covering up Froome, do you no how pathetic you sound you live in the clinic all day everyday and you think that its possible to beat the test ha ha lol 2013 , not 2000. Armstrong tests now show positive we will have some from 1998 soon and you think Froome has got away with it since 2011, if they found a tiny bit of Clen from Alberto im sure they will find some from Froome. Bro its just sad always accusing him that's all im saying, don't you atleast agree with the points I say that now it is a lot harder to cheat?, or are you gonna chuck a 1 liner at me and say Armstrong dint fail a test.

Regarding Dirty Bertie, you are aware if that sample went to any over lab in the world at that time, he wouldn't have been banned.

 

[markene2]

snip

This is the same as saying this: "The turkish guy has podiumed 2 prestigous stage races in Algeria and won the prestigous Tour of Isparta, he has failed ZERO doping controls, and not one positive test."

 

[hrotha]

I think some ow Kittel an apology people were moaning when he called Sayer out and he was right.

No one ever said Kittel was probably wrong about Sayar. People questioned whether he'd have done the same with someone who wasn't such an easy target (small Turkish guy from a continental team, can speak out against him with no consequences and get easy cleanliness cred).

 

[Catwhoorg]

That's because he didn't ride the Tour of Algeria. In Turkey he saw the guy with injection marks all over his arm and he wasn't the only one, Terpstra said the same in an interview for dutch TV if I'm not mistaken.

I mean who injects in their arms these days ?
He is quite literally stupid for doing so.

Black socks can cover a multitude of sins.

 

[bridgeman]

Is this the guy with the giant freak head?

 

[Netserk]

Is this the guy with the giant freak head?

You tell me.

 

[Hugh Januss]

Really this just proves how clean cycling has become, every day they are catching another one of the few bad apples who are still trying to dope.

 

[luckyboy]

How did this take 4 months to come out? And they haven't even tested the B-sample yet?

That's because he didn't ride the Tour of Algeria. In Turkey he saw the guy with injection marks all over his arm and he wasn't the only one, Terpstra said the same in an interview for dutch TV if I'm not mistaken.

Terpstra wasn't there, must've been someone else.

Someone really said they saw injection marks though?

 

[kingjr]

How did this take 4 months to come out? And they haven't even tested the B-sample yet?



Terpstra wasn't there, must've been someone else.

Someone really said they saw injection marks though?

Yes, probably was someone else then. Kittel said it as well in an interview with a german newspaper (FAZ).

http://www.faz.net/aktuell/sport/me...brauchen-ein-anti-doping-gesetz-12172587.html

 

[roundabout]

Seeldraeyers?

"we all knew that he was going to win this morning" or something like that

edit

not quite as I remembered, but still funny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7tmi88HQM-o#t=26s

 

[Billie]

His body language

 

[Bratam]

It is quite obvious there are some real idiots in this thread. We have a world class pro cyclist in Marcel Kittel who is breaking through the old Omertà. People knock him when he speaks out against potential dopers, then is proven to right and then these same idiots start knocking him for not calling out on his old buddy Froome or any any other white guy in a Pro team.

It is possible that now Kittel has proven to be correct, this may give him some confidence to call out other potential dopers in the future. Mr Froome may well be the next target.

 

[2beeDammed]

Finally and always...why the f&*k does it always take 3 months for information and lab work that was available to be tested released so long after the fact??? Yeah, the system is broke.

Ditto.....the test is done in March and the results go public in July.Is there actually any technical reason why such a long time between test and results ?

 

[BroDeal]

It is quite obvious there are some real idiots in this thread. We have a world class pro cyclist in Marcel Kittel who is breaking through the old Omertà. People knock him when he speaks out against potential dopers, then is proven to right and then these same idiots start knocking him for not calling out on his old buddy Froome or any any other white guy in a Pro team.

And then there are the real idiots who don't understand that small riders on teams from Turkey are not under the umbrella of omerta. Calling out Sayer is like calling out Ricco after he was caught.

It is possible that now Kittel has proven to be correct, this may give him some confidence to call out other potential dopers in the future. Mr Froome may well be the next target.

Don't hold your breath on that..

 

[SetonHallPirate]

Just a thought that hasn't come out yet...this makes two straight years that the Presidential Tour of Turkey (although maybe we should start calling it the Vice Presidential Tour of Turkey, because the guy who comes in second seems to win all the time!) "winner" was busted for doping!

 

[biker jk]

I did note in amusement Sayar's defence when questioned at the ToT that his performance improvement was due to training hard and living at high altitude.

 

[timbo25]

Ditto.....the test is done in March and the results go public in July.Is there actually any technical reason why such a long time between test and results ?

Froome has been under fire about doping performances, so this is a decoy

 

[will10]

I genuinely can't decide if this is more or less surprising than the Santambrogio positive.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Just a thought that hasn't come out yet...this makes two straight years that the Presidential Tour of Turkey (although maybe we should start calling it the Vice Presidential Tour of Turkey, because the guy who comes in second seems to win all the time!) "winner" was busted for doping!

Same team, of course, too.

I know they were keen to foster the sport in Turkey with a home winner, but in retrospect they probably bit off more than they could chew. They knew they screwed up last year with Gabrovski, because he crushed everybody on Elmali by a minute and a half, but the rest of the squad wasn't strong enough, so to hold on for the win he had to chase every attack solo all week, which was just another level on top of the Elmali victory. And as a 34 year old who hadn't had any impact in western Europe for a decade nobody bought it.

They didn't make that mistake again, and the addition of the second uphill finish gave them the perfect opportunity to play the game - Sayar was able to finish close to the front on Elmali without taking the leader's jersey, which meant that they could attack to take the win on the second mountaintop at Selçuk and only have to defend for two flat stages, which would be more doable believably with their resources. However, they underestimated how unbelievable it would look coming from Sayar - or indeed any of the young Turks on the squad, of whom Sayar was perhaps the most legitimately promising - at that point in time, especially with Gabrovski the previous year in mind. Looking at their squad, if they were going to aim to win - dope or no dope - in their home race it would have made far more logical sense for them to go all in for David de la Fuente. He could have podiumed on Elmali and won on Selçuk and people might have bought it. After all, he's been a solid climber at the top level, reasonable palmarès, was a key domestique in Cobo's Vuelta win, and on a team that target that race, against the less than stellar climbing field he would face in the Tour of Turkey, he could be bought as a legitimate winner on those climbs, even if the spectre of Gabrovski in 2012 would still loom large. And Törku could still have gone for their Turkish winner in Turkey if they'd been a bit more patient. Let Sayar be his key domestique, showing well, and building results. And importantly, not totally sucking everywhere else (since Turkey Sayar has DNFed everything he's entered except the nationals). Then, in 2014, Sayar can step up and it won't be as preposterous. But instead they got impatient, they wanted the Turkish winner now, and rather than step up the program and try to make it believable, the guy went from nowhere to full program and rode uphill in a gear Peter Weening would baulk at, dropping everybody as he Grabsched his way up the mountainside, then back to nowhere, and if anything looked even more ridiculous than Gabrovski did. Amateur hour tactics from Törku.