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nice joke. short-lived, tho'. Apparently E3 broadcast was the source?
If he had, he should be at hospital, not at home, no?
Escarabajo said:
If he had, he should be at hospital, not at home, no?
- Apr 16, 2009
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Well. People are confirming no fracture. They are not denying the crash. So something did happen.
well in one thing i agree with Trump media are really bad , really really bad , verify before saying something
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Quintana is back in Europe for Asturias and then the Giro: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/quintana-we-couldnt-have-asked-more-in-build-up-to-giro-tour-double/
He sounds extremely confident
He sounds extremely confident
I'm still wondering why quintana races in crappy stage races like route du sud or asturias... there are no competition in those races and the tempo is almost a walk in the park for quintana
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Yeah he has a clear tendency to do prepare using smaller races than other riders. I don't know why. In this case I can understand he wants to be as fresh as possible, but you don't reach a decent peak with a decent amount of training, and I'm sure he's done that.
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I really don't see a problem with that at all!
This year is very clear.
In previous years he wants to get the most out of the altitude training without wearing out. More time and less extreme exercise.
This year is very clear.
In previous years he wants to get the most out of the altitude training without wearing out. More time and less extreme exercise.
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1) he has had success there and he is the marquee rider (in all the posters, translation $$$)
2) Movistar seems to have interest in always winning these races (translation $$$)
3) Type of stages are perfect for Giro prep
In essence, Quintana wins, gets some training and makes money for his sponsor and himself. Fans love him at these races.
For Route du Sud, it could be his 3rd win there, tying the record. Other riders seem to like this philosophy:
Kiryenka 2011.
Quintana 2012,2016
Voeckler 2013
Roche 2014
Contador 2015
Number of stages have ranged from 3 to 5, but it almost always has the same formula, one multiple climb, one time trial, one summit finish, throw in some roller/flats, so you get to train in all disciplines, all terrains.
As for Vuelta a Asturias, this is probably the marquee Banesto/iBanesto/Movistar race.
Spain has dominated this race (with the exception of last year where my boy Hugh Carthy won).
This year is 3 stages, all either roller mountains or summit/high mountains.
I would say it is literally THE BEST option for someone going into the giro. 2 summit finishes, 1 time trial, 3-4 roller mountains, 1-2 flat stages, UCI points, $$$$$ won.
My opinion is that three things come into play:portugal11 said:
1) he has had success there and he is the marquee rider (in all the posters, translation $$$)
2) Movistar seems to have interest in always winning these races (translation $$$)
3) Type of stages are perfect for Giro prep
In essence, Quintana wins, gets some training and makes money for his sponsor and himself. Fans love him at these races.
For Route du Sud, it could be his 3rd win there, tying the record. Other riders seem to like this philosophy:
Kiryenka 2011.
Quintana 2012,2016
Voeckler 2013
Roche 2014
Contador 2015
Number of stages have ranged from 3 to 5, but it almost always has the same formula, one multiple climb, one time trial, one summit finish, throw in some roller/flats, so you get to train in all disciplines, all terrains.
As for Vuelta a Asturias, this is probably the marquee Banesto/iBanesto/Movistar race.
Spain has dominated this race (with the exception of last year where my boy Hugh Carthy won).
This year is 3 stages, all either roller mountains or summit/high mountains.
I would say it is literally THE BEST option for someone going into the giro. 2 summit finishes, 1 time trial, 3-4 roller mountains, 1-2 flat stages, UCI points, $$$$$ won.
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Surprisingly no one has mentioned that last week Nairo went full steam against the Colombian Federation. Then the BMX double Olympic gold, Mariana Pajon, took the opposite side (her dad works with FCC).
There was a lot of debate, and Pajon suffered a negative impact but the FCC seems mostly unaffected.
There was a lot of debate, and Pajon suffered a negative impact but the FCC seems mostly unaffected.
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Well it is natural that She will defend her dad. As well as She has been benefited from her dad being there as well of course.
I hope these things didn't happen but they are unavoidable. I think she is naïve in this respect. And Quintana is entitled to his opinion, especially when his voice carries a lot of weight. In fact one example of what Quinatna is saying could be the emergence of Egan Bernal. Without his own resources and the resources of foreign money he would not have been known. At least not this soon.
Most money goes to soccer and that's understandable. But Cycling is the sport that has been Colombia the most glory and the one in which we can be the best of the world. And frequently. So Quintana and other popular cyclists has seen how no money or little money has flown into the sponsorship of young talents, so they grow up upset. Now Quintana is so popular that everyone wants to sponsor and do commercials. This makes him mad. And in the past he has said many times, please give this money to the younger cyclists not to me. Why sponsors come to me now and not when I needed the most. So he is taking advantage of his popularity to make his point. He probably believes that some of that little money that is given to FCC is being mishandled. Maybe he knows something. Or maybe he knows a lot since he has a lot of contacts in the Colombian cycling circles.
I hope these things didn't happen but they are unavoidable. I think she is naïve in this respect. And Quintana is entitled to his opinion, especially when his voice carries a lot of weight. In fact one example of what Quinatna is saying could be the emergence of Egan Bernal. Without his own resources and the resources of foreign money he would not have been known. At least not this soon.
Most money goes to soccer and that's understandable. But Cycling is the sport that has been Colombia the most glory and the one in which we can be the best of the world. And frequently. So Quintana and other popular cyclists has seen how no money or little money has flown into the sponsorship of young talents, so they grow up upset. Now Quintana is so popular that everyone wants to sponsor and do commercials. This makes him mad. And in the past he has said many times, please give this money to the younger cyclists not to me. Why sponsors come to me now and not when I needed the most. So he is taking advantage of his popularity to make his point. He probably believes that some of that little money that is given to FCC is being mishandled. Maybe he knows something. Or maybe he knows a lot since he has a lot of contacts in the Colombian cycling circles.
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Yes, Quintana is an extremely nice human being. Chapeau Nairo
On the interview: I don't know any cyclists who articulates themselves so precise and comes across so considerate and thoughtful. Many cyclists say something where you can have a tendency to go wtf, but Quintana is just on point constantly.
By the way, any livestreams from Asturias? Looks like a superb route. I think its a good choice of race by Quintana.
On the interview: I don't know any cyclists who articulates themselves so precise and comes across so considerate and thoughtful. Many cyclists say something where you can have a tendency to go wtf, but Quintana is just on point constantly.
By the way, any livestreams from Asturias? Looks like a superb route. I think its a good choice of race by Quintana.
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I was in awe on how quickly she had to backpedal (no pun intended) and do damage control.
Nairo has become a national legend in Colombia, not only because of his cycling, but also for who he has become off the bike. He is EXTREMELY eloquent while being very direct. He calls things out in a very intelligent way.
Off the top of my head, he has fought and defended farmers rights, women's rights, animal rights. He has constantly spoken out publicly about fighting abuse, about going out and voting, etc..
So the issue, as Nairo saw it is as follows:
The Colombian cycling federation is incompetent. They do not do any drug testing in any race. The Colombian lab has been banned by the UCI and the few tests that do occur are sent off. There is no backing for up and coming cyclist, many which have to pay their way to go to track events, road events, etc.
There is no real coaching. Many cyclists have been abandoned at major events, like the world's, like the Olympics (Including Fernando Gaviria at the airport). In some events, Colombia has qualified to bring a full team and they don't fill it (like last year's worlds, for example). They are corrupt and incompetent at holding cycling events. Just last week, the Tour of Tolima had to be cancelled because they didn't have street permits or local government support. Cancelled as in WHEN THE CYCLIST WERE LINED UP TO DO THE RACE. STAGE 3 or 4. He was disappointed that the current regime stayed and wasn't voted off.
He was upset that they didnt' collaborate with the UCI and important events like Vuelta a Colombia or Clasico RCN are probably going to be off the UCI official list of events. There was another tour that had financial backing, had international support called Vuelta a Cafe, even had the UCI blessing but the FCC (Federacion de Ciclismo Colombiano) did not support it, claiming that they didn't follow the correct process to get a race started (my opinion is that they were cut off their piece of the pie or the piece wasn't big enough).
Now, Mariana is adored in Colombia as well, multi Olympian gold medalist, multi UCI world champion, BMX queen in the world. She is very regioncentric, loves Medellin and basically defends Medellin' s interest when possible. She also comes from money and her dad is currently in on of the FCC committees. She claims she had a private conversation with her father that was intended for her inner circle that somehow was edited and shared to the public. If you listen to it, clearly it was scripted. Breathing patterns, list of points, etc.. The kicker was at the end she said that Nairo should not get involved in politics, to think before he speaks or speak without knowing what he is talking about.
What was the end result? Colombia DESTROYED Mariana. Everyone loves Nairo, loves that he came from nothing (relatively speaking), loves that he speaks his heart, trusts everything he says because he is so direct and controlled. Mariana was told to get off her high horse, to stop defending "daddy", to practice what she preaches. She has always had financial backing by the federation. BMX has. Track, Road, Mountain has not. Medellin (Antioquia) has been the center and has always been backed by ColDeportes (Colombian Sports Organization/overseer). Other regions have not. Most of all, the people felt that if anyone KNOWS cycling and the ins and outs, it is Nairo. Nairo has even attacked the health benefits (or lack there of), the salaries (Look at what happen to team Colombia), the rights of the riders. Nairo even said (paraphrasing, of course) "Don't you see the great opportunity here, to bring international riders of the highest caliber to a race in colombia right now?" He says the 8 riders that are in WT made it there IN SPITE of, not BECAUSE OF the FCC. He says that outside the National Championships, there is not one race they can do at home.
End result? Mariana backs down, says she loves Nairo, Nairo comes out with a video, very calmly, saying he loves Mariana and not to focus on her attack but to respect other opinions, said that the goal is a dialogue, that he always supports Mariana and not to worry, he is focusing on pedaling. Very classy.
He called out the truth, in my opinion. No doping control is hurting the domestic scene and is hurting the WT riders. He wants it EVERYWHERE.
This was great to see. Mariana basically said "stop getting into politics and focus on pedaling".slosada said:
I was in awe on how quickly she had to backpedal (no pun intended) and do damage control.
Nairo has become a national legend in Colombia, not only because of his cycling, but also for who he has become off the bike. He is EXTREMELY eloquent while being very direct. He calls things out in a very intelligent way.
Off the top of my head, he has fought and defended farmers rights, women's rights, animal rights. He has constantly spoken out publicly about fighting abuse, about going out and voting, etc..
So the issue, as Nairo saw it is as follows:
The Colombian cycling federation is incompetent. They do not do any drug testing in any race. The Colombian lab has been banned by the UCI and the few tests that do occur are sent off. There is no backing for up and coming cyclist, many which have to pay their way to go to track events, road events, etc.
There is no real coaching. Many cyclists have been abandoned at major events, like the world's, like the Olympics (Including Fernando Gaviria at the airport). In some events, Colombia has qualified to bring a full team and they don't fill it (like last year's worlds, for example). They are corrupt and incompetent at holding cycling events. Just last week, the Tour of Tolima had to be cancelled because they didn't have street permits or local government support. Cancelled as in WHEN THE CYCLIST WERE LINED UP TO DO THE RACE. STAGE 3 or 4. He was disappointed that the current regime stayed and wasn't voted off.
He was upset that they didnt' collaborate with the UCI and important events like Vuelta a Colombia or Clasico RCN are probably going to be off the UCI official list of events. There was another tour that had financial backing, had international support called Vuelta a Cafe, even had the UCI blessing but the FCC (Federacion de Ciclismo Colombiano) did not support it, claiming that they didn't follow the correct process to get a race started (my opinion is that they were cut off their piece of the pie or the piece wasn't big enough).
Now, Mariana is adored in Colombia as well, multi Olympian gold medalist, multi UCI world champion, BMX queen in the world. She is very regioncentric, loves Medellin and basically defends Medellin' s interest when possible. She also comes from money and her dad is currently in on of the FCC committees. She claims she had a private conversation with her father that was intended for her inner circle that somehow was edited and shared to the public. If you listen to it, clearly it was scripted. Breathing patterns, list of points, etc.. The kicker was at the end she said that Nairo should not get involved in politics, to think before he speaks or speak without knowing what he is talking about.
What was the end result? Colombia DESTROYED Mariana. Everyone loves Nairo, loves that he came from nothing (relatively speaking), loves that he speaks his heart, trusts everything he says because he is so direct and controlled. Mariana was told to get off her high horse, to stop defending "daddy", to practice what she preaches. She has always had financial backing by the federation. BMX has. Track, Road, Mountain has not. Medellin (Antioquia) has been the center and has always been backed by ColDeportes (Colombian Sports Organization/overseer). Other regions have not. Most of all, the people felt that if anyone KNOWS cycling and the ins and outs, it is Nairo. Nairo has even attacked the health benefits (or lack there of), the salaries (Look at what happen to team Colombia), the rights of the riders. Nairo even said (paraphrasing, of course) "Don't you see the great opportunity here, to bring international riders of the highest caliber to a race in colombia right now?" He says the 8 riders that are in WT made it there IN SPITE of, not BECAUSE OF the FCC. He says that outside the National Championships, there is not one race they can do at home.
End result? Mariana backs down, says she loves Nairo, Nairo comes out with a video, very calmly, saying he loves Mariana and not to focus on her attack but to respect other opinions, said that the goal is a dialogue, that he always supports Mariana and not to worry, he is focusing on pedaling. Very classy.
He called out the truth, in my opinion. No doping control is hurting the domestic scene and is hurting the WT riders. He wants it EVERYWHERE.
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After seeing the mountain stages from the Tour I am so happy that Quintana is doing the Giro.
In my opinion this is one of the worst Tour de France routes. They made the decision easy for Quintana TBH. Very few stages to decide the race. So it was hard for him to put all the eggs in that basket.
In my opinion this is one of the worst Tour de France routes. They made the decision easy for Quintana TBH. Very few stages to decide the race. So it was hard for him to put all the eggs in that basket.
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And looking at the brilliant Giro analysis thread, there are a lot more steep decisive gradients in the Giro than I had thought. So glad to see quintana battle it out next month
Escarabajo said:
And looking at the brilliant Giro analysis thread, there are a lot more steep decisive gradients in the Giro than I had thought. So glad to see quintana battle it out next month
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