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Amazing win for the Texans over the Bengals who had looked unstoppable recently!

Baltimore had the Browns beat, but they weren't able to close the game out, and the Browns kept pecking and pounding away. Lamar just struggled in the clutch.

You could almost tell the Chargers were going to find a way to lose, especially after mounting such a comeback.

Cowboys look great against bad teams, don't they?

Nice win for Seattle.

Vikings have won 5 in a row.

Kyler Murray's numbers weren't great, but the Cardinals won. If you think about it, in some ways he is playing for his job. For if they were to finish with a top draft pick, there's nothing to indicate they won't draft a QB.

Strange how much impact health appears to have with the 49ers. Day and night.
 
Yeah...but what about the Jags? Did they stink up the joint or what. Lol. The next "Payton Manning" threw for only 185 yds, no TDs, 2 picks and only 3 offensive points! If the Jags want to be taken seriously as a legitimate SB contenders, they can't be getting hammered like that against good teams.

And Lawrence needs to play much better & make adjustments if his O-line is getting owned by Bosa & Young (he looked dazed & confused out there). This is Lawrence's 3rd year in the league as a starter - he should know more & start playing like Manning making adjustments to the game plan.
Should have actually been worse but the 49ers player stepped onto the field from the sideline while the play was still live during a turnover and cost them another 7 points. Stupid thing to do. Luckily the game wasn't close. Shame CMC couldn't break the TD record but it was obvious that the fullback tried to pull up on the one yard line to give CMC the record chance but his momentum took him over the line. Would have made it 19 straight games with a TD. Oh well...........
 
That’s the crux of the matter since Belichick is the head coach and general manager. It’s not his fault players aren’t developing or progressing as they should, but it is his fault for getting majority subpar ingredients and making his premier ingredients want to leave. Among other decisions, I mean for gosh sake he wanted to trade Gronkowski to the Lions in order to help Mat Patricia, Gronk who ended up being insurmountable in their Super Bowl win the following season. Jones has regressed since his start but Belichick has also not set him up for success with having a special teams and defensive coordinator as his OC’s and the rumors that Belichick was the one calling the offense. On top of the players being unPatriot like in their discipline and mistakes being made that you rarely saw before. It’s a hot mess up there and I know for a fact I would not want to be on that plane ride or meeting room.


On the other side another big win for the Lions!!!! Chargers are floundering under what I hoped but the Lions are flourishing and look set to win the North in a very long time. In the division it’s good Vikings are surviving with Cousins being injured.
I still think that Detroit has a chance to top the NFC. Their schedule looks good. The Eagles have to play the 49ers, then the Cowboys again. Dak doesn't step out of bounds last week, the Eagles would have dropped another game. If the Eagles win both of those games that will probably clinch it and the Eagles are still winning the close games even when not playing that well. They won't be confused with the Chargers............ if Seattle lose both games to the 49ers, then they probably won't win the NFC West. The first game is a Thursday night game then the 49ers will get extra rest before the Eagles game then play Seattle again. That three game stretch will be telling. I'm sure that the last thing the Cowboys want is to meet the 49ers again in the second week of the playoffs. but Seattle's win today was big for them. All to play for.
 
SEA with a win. Smith is 'off', not horribly, but off none the less. The O line has improved, but still has work to do. The D is stout, but gives up too many big plays too. Keep working...

Howell: That was my first chance to see him play. He's good. I'm not sending in my probowl form for him just yet, but with all of the buzz about other young guys he is just as good or better than a lot of QB1 and 2s.

Dobbs!

SF got it back together.

Five or six games decided by a last second FG!

The night game was mostly a dud, but there was something about it..
 
Who says a coaching change can't make an immediate impact on a team? I saw Pierce shaking hands with every player during pregame warmups.

The Raiders may not make the playoffs or even have a winning season, especially with a rookie QB, but they'll win some more & be competitive in every game. And Pierce is laying a foundation for good things to come. Davis would be an idiot not to offer the job to Pierce.

Pierce's victory speech:

View: https://youtu.be/k8_6yeEj3rk?si=9TNhST7sD_azVSgU


And what can you say about Wilson once again CHOKING in crunch time. He's in Raider territory with plenty of time & TOs left just needing one effin TD to go ahead & probably win the game - and he throws a PICK right to Spillane! Lol. He's done as a starter after this season. He be relegated as a journeyman backup following the career path of Sam Darnold.
 
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Cowboys look great against bad teams, don't they?
Too funny but so true. You knew what kind of game it was going to be when the Giants started off with 2 consecutive 3 & outs near their own goal line. Couldn't help but feel a little sorry for DeVito as he looked like a "deer in headlights" with the wrath of the Cowboys pass rush upon him. Lol.

And I see Dallas has the little guy (Vaughn) returning punts now (he's never return punts or kickoffs in college). He's been a healthy "inactive" the last 3 games - maybe the coaching staff feels he can contribute as a return specialist? (at a buck 70, he's not going to make it as a RB in this league).
 
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Davis would be an idiot not to offer the job to Pierce.
Agree completely. The have a pretty tough schedule remaining and may finish 8-9, or 7-10, but the collective unit they have now has potential for a bright future. My concern is that just like how Mark Davis fired Jack DelRio to hire John Gruden, and didn't hire Rich Bisaccia to hire Josh McDaniels, he'll pass on Pierce to get Jim Harbaugh. The splashy hire, the shiny object. But I've posted a few times about I'm not 100% sold on Harbaugh returning to the NFL, regardless of what team hires him. In fact, right now I can't think of another person on the planet who would be a better coach for the Raiders than Pierce.

What were your words? "McDaniels is loser." Yep!
And what can you say about Wilson once again CHOKING in crunch time. He's in Raider territory with plenty of time & TOs left just needing one effin TD to go ahead & probably win the game - and he throws a PICK right to Spillane! Lol. He's done as a starter after this season. He be relegated as a journeyman backup following the career path of Sam Darnold.
He didn't throw it right to Spillane, it was actually a good pick from a guy who is mostly known for being good against the run, but you are right Wilson basically choked. The Raiders have a pretty good D, but they had 2 backup DBs playing, and Wilson couldn't get anything going at all. He showed nothing when it mattered most.

I don't know that the Packers will start Tim Boyle. He was a high school phenom (same school as Will Levis! From a hometown where I once lived - Middletown, CT) winning 3 state championships. He was reportedly wasted at UConn, went undrafted, and in a few NFL years has basically been a solid back-up who rarely plays. I think Rodgers somewhat hand-picked Tim to follow him from GB to NYJ.

Having just written that, I can't see him playing much worse than Wilson has of late. Wilson has the worst passer rating of any starting QB (Bagent and DeVito are slightly lower. Tannehill was worse, but now out for the season), the only QB with a worse QBR is Bryce Young.

Brock Purdy best in both metrics. (Link to all QB stats here).
 
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Just watched MNF to the end. A game Buffalo lost the handle on, literally 4 times. I have to say the Russell Wilson that played tonight looked leaner, quicker and more composed than the last 2 1/2 years. Denver's kicker got a reprieve from the Bills who, inexplicably had 12 guys on the field while he missed the first try with 4 seconds remaining. He shouldn't have had to even try the field goal but after 2 muffed extra points maybe the Bills felt badly for him. Who would've thought at this point these two teams would be on equal terms in the early playoff standings?
 
Good win for Denver. But this was an ugly game, ugly ending. Really ugly loss for Buffalo, who all of a sudden looks very average. Granted, it's just over halfway through the season, but unless they totally turn things around and go on an impressive winning streak, they look like a team that will miss the playoffs, or be quickly eliminated if they get there. I have been watching football a long time, and teams just don't turn things on and off.
 
This is a must win for the Bills: Playing at home on MNF & barely over .500, they need to win or I think this team will continue to struggle & risk not making the playoffs.

The Broncos, OTOH, also need to win to show that the victory over KC wasn't a fluke. A Broncos win & they're 4-5 - and firmly in the playoff hunt.
As expected..............thought the Bills were ripe for the picking! . Big result for both teams. 95 interceptions for Allen since 2018.
 
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They need someone that can control Allen’s poor decision making, Diggs temper, get Diggs into the game with better scheme, and run the ball more. Bills were cooking running it, yet they almost never do it not counting Allen rushing.
 
He didn't throw it right to Spillane, it was actually a good pick from a guy who is mostly known for being good against the run, but you are right Wilson basically choked. The Raiders have a pretty good D, but they had 2 backup DBs playing, and Wilson couldn't get anything going at all. He showed nothing when it mattered most.
Yes...watch the reply - Wilson threw it right to Spillane leading him perfectly:

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/TaICOT_nZBY?si=6Q8egG625lANoTkI


What is Wilson going to say in film review: "GeeWhiz coach...I didn't see Spillane" Lol. Wilson simply lost his composure at crunch time &  thought Spillane was a Jets receiver leading him perfectly. You & I, even at our age, could have made that snag. Nothing spectacular about the pick except Spillane held onto it when so many LBs have dropped those easy picks.

Just face it; Wilson is pathetic and has NO business being a starting QB in this league. Whoever recommended the Jets take him as the #2 OA grossly misjudged his potential as a NFL starter.

This year he has only 5 TD passes against 6 picks? Lol. And I know you like stats - so here's one for you: In 913 passing attempts in 31 games played (30 starts), Wilson has thrown only 20 TD passes - worst ever in the modern era of the NFL! Lol.

 
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Good win for Denver. But this was an ugly game, ugly ending. Really ugly loss for Buffalo, who all of a sudden looks very average. Granted, it's just over halfway through the season, but unless they totally turn things around and go on an impressive winning streak, they look like a team that will miss the playoffs, or be quickly eliminated if they get there. I have been watching football a long time, and teams just don't turn things on and off.
Not a bad win at all for Denver. Playing on the road in Buffalo this time of year isn't easy (though it wasn't that cold last night). One local journalist who covered the Broncos back when they won SB 50, said he hasn't seen the players & coaching staff that pumped & jubilant after this game since that SB victory. So, they're very much in the playoff hunt now. But tough games coming up vs Minn & Cleveland (home) then on the road @ Houston, LAC & Detroit. With the way the AFC is looking so far, I think they'll need a minimum 10 wins to get a WC spot.

If Buffalo continues this meltdown & ends up not making the playoffs, McDermott has got to go. Not only is it hard to believe that this team is now 5-5 with the great Josh Allen, but that fact that they've never gotten past the AFC championship game with McDermott running the show.
 
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The MNF game much like the SNF game, showcased two teams saying: "No you win, no you win...".
Was thinking something similar.. No that's not how to blow it let me show you how it's done..
and if Buffalo would have held out for a victory it would have been against the credo of protect the football..
near misses but the actual turnovers were ridiculous.. even the self fumble recovery was a circus act..and a play w multiple fumbles!! Dropped the snap and flubbed getting it down in time for the kick and then fumbled and self recovery!! Both teams were the definition of sloppy..
Taking bets if Chargers have a new coach before weeks end..
 
Taking bets if Chargers have a new coach before weeks end..
At 4-5 with half the season left? I thought Staley would have been fired after that debacle in the playoff game last season against the Jags where they blew a 27-0 halftime lead.

As a first time HC, he was 9-8 in his rookie year & 10-7 last year - finishing 2nd in the division & making the playoffs. Chargers ownership seems to be content on winning seasons, Herbert breaking passing records & just making the playoffs.
 
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Was thinking something similar.. No that's not how to blow it let me show you how it's done..
and if Buffalo would have held out for a victory it would have been against the credo of protect the football..
near misses but the actual turnovers were ridiculous.. even the self fumble recovery was a circus act..and a play w multiple fumbles!! Dropped the snap and flubbed getting it down in time for the kick and then fumbled and self recovery!! Both teams were the definition of sloppy..
Taking bets if Chargers have a new coach before weeks end..
I'll say no, but I won't bet anything of value on that.
 
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I'll say the Chargers may rank as most disappointing, especially considering they have few injuries.

There were a lot of people who said Buffalo's window was closing. Also, they lost Tre White to an achilles tear early in the season, Von Miller still hasn't really recovered from tearing his ACL last year, and Hamlin just came back on Monday. Granted, they have played worse than people expected, but the Chargers manage to lose games like nobody's business. 4-5 with a +24 point differential, with a fairly soft schedule.

The Bengals at 5-4 have played extremely well at times, but are in last place. That's disappointing. No one expected the Giants to seriously compete, but at 2-8 they are terrible (-148 points!!!). Same with New England. There were some people who predicted Carolina would win that weak division with Bryce Young at QB. They are the worst team in the NFL.

I can't tell if Buffalo's problem was Ken Dorsey, or he's just the fall guy. The players were simply not executing, including Allen. McDermott may be as big of a problem there. I'm also curious why he insisted on calling defensive plays this year? That seems like a bad idea on top of more bad ideas when he needs to be running things as a leader.

Taking bets if Chargers have a new coach before weeks end..
Recall last year there was strong talk they were going to get Jim Harbaugh. My guess is he's their coach next season, whether Staley is fired mid-season, or on black Monday. Looking at their schedule, 9-8 seems very possible. For a team that's stacked with big money talent (supposedly). If they lose to the Packers, Patriots or Raiders, that could be a very valid reason to let him go. Especially if they botch a game they should win, which they're good at.