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SHAD0W93 said:
Makes it even crazier that Rodgers is rushing back when he’s been injured multiple times in the past.
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Rogers unlike Brees is getting sea worm hemoglobin treatment inside a complete sensory deprivation hut in Northern New Mexico. And he is doing resistance training using Travis Kelce vaccine videos as extra motivation.. To think of the timeline for Brees and some of the others..
I don't think that I have read lots of stories about athletes that ended their career at high school or college football and then have grave circumstances later in life.. Could just be uninformed, but the NFL really knocks it out of you.
 
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So called hip drop tackle to be banned ? Can't tackle low, can't tackle high, cant use the head, can't attack the knees, can't grab the collar or the face mask, can't land on top of the QB, can't hit slightly late or going over the sideline, can't touch the kicker, can't be too vigorous with the QB and so on............where will it end ? Tush push is also probably a goner. If these injuries hadn't happened to elite players, no one would have cared. The NFL is morphing into another version of college football unfortunately. A body contact sport that wants minimal contact it seems ! No wonder some NFL fans are horrified when they watch Australian Rules or Rugby League and Rugby Union where the amount of substitutions is much less as are the game stoppages and the amount of padding they wear but often the injuries are actually less than the NFL. Go figure ...................
 
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SHAD0W93 said:
Makes it even crazier that Rodgers is rushing back when he’s been injured multiple times in the past.
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He says he's targeting a late Dec return. However, I bet if the Jets are all but out of the playoffs by then, he won't return (and the way the Jets are losing, that could be sooner than later).

Like him or not, Rodgers is a smart man & it would foolish for him to play in what 2 or 3 more remaining games? (their last game is Jan 7 @ NE). What would be the point? Try to win these games so the Jets don't finish maybe last in the division? Lol.
 
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Nomad said:
Even though Rex Ryan says they should fire him? Lol

www.profootballnetwork.com

'He Needs To Go Back to Division III Where He Belongs' -- Rex Ryan Rips Chargers HC Brandon Staley

Brandon Staley has a growing number of critics, but Rex Ryan believes the Chargers head coach should make a return to a lesser division of college football.
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Maybe they need to ask the Chargers fans.............Rivera has coached his last season at Washington you would think but maybe that ownership group needs more convincing like the Chargers.............well........
 
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If the Chiefs manage to win the Super Bowl again, I imagine Kelce will retire after that. The reverse may be the case with his brother as well, if the Eagles win it.

That is horrible about Brees. Anyone recall when he retired and reporters that were speculating he would play one more year were immediately shot down by his wife who listed all of his injuries, and it sounded like Drew had been in a bad car wreck with all the things wrong with him.

I believe Chad Pennington also cannot do much with his right arm (4 shoulder surgeries, many others, two ACL tears, etc. etc.). I saw an interview with Joe Montana a few years ago talking about how most mornings when he gets up he needs help from his wife to put a shirt on. Jim Plunkett regrets playing as long as he does, saying he's in near constant pain of one sort or another and has to do PT, stretching, massages, chiropractor, hot tub, etc. almost every single day to keep it at bay. I'm sure these guys are the norm, not the exception.
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Other thought: Is it possible that BB doesn't want to coach anymore?
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I am all but certain he's going after Shula's record. Once he's there, everything is golden, and that will take at least one more season, probably two.
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We shouldn't bother to debate the AFC. Stephen A and friends basically confirmed that only the NFC teams (that they adore right now) have a chance anyway.
Cowboys, Eagles, Lions.
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The Eagles barely beat the Chiefs. Anyone writing off Mahomes, Reid and KC is a fool.

Stephen, Skip, almost all those guys are entertainers. I think Mel Kiper may be the best example. Everyone knows his draft assessments are bad, but he puts a lot of effort into it, doesn't get defensive when he's (almost always) wrong and called out, etc. He's hired for your bemusement.

Rex Ryan is both a football sage, and entertainer!

I can't possibly see Staley not being fired on black monday unless the Chargers win a playoff game. No way.
 
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Happy thanksgiving football!

2Q Packers look better than they did last week beating the Chargers. Love looks quite good. Lions surprising out how of sync they are, and the bad turnovers. This, so far, looks like the same Lions team that played the Ravens.

Redskins at the Cowboys is the traditional game (yes, I know, Commanders. I hate "Commanders" btw, and hope the new ownership gets rid of this stupid name). No, Redskins is worse, but a Native American theme would be I think very welcome by every Washington fan, and almost every NFL fan, and citizen.

Seattle listed Geno as "questionable" because they had to say something after that Burrow debacle last week, but reports are he looks good. They need him to have a chance. This rivalry should be good as always, but the 49ers looked red hot last week.
 
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Alpe d'Huez said:
Happy thanksgiving football!

2Q Packers look better than they did last week beating the Chargers. Love looks quite good. Lions surprising out how of sync they are, and the bad turnovers. This, so far, looks like the same Lions team that played the Ravens.

Redskins at the Cowboys is the traditional game (yes, I know, Commanders. I hate "Commanders" btw, and hope the new ownership gets rid of this stupid name). No, Redskins is worse, but a Native American theme would be I think very welcome by every Washington fan, and almost every NFL fan, and citizen.

Seattle listed Geno as "questionable" because they had to say something after that Burrow debacle last week, but reports are he looks good. They need him to have a chance. This rivalry should be good as always, but the 49ers looked red hot last week.
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Happy Thanksgiving football to you as well!

I was checking the schedule too see who is playing today, saw the Commanders and had to do a doubletake... who the heck are the Commanders?? (Shows you how much I follow the NFL these days. :D)

It's been a few years but I remember the Lions used to be a laughing stock and not really a game to look forward to on Thanksgiving Day because you just knew they'd get pummeled, so it still surprises me when they are being spoken of favorably. Well, maybe not today, but it ain't over till the fat lady sings!
 
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Alpe d'Huez said:
Happy thanksgiving football!

2Q Packers look better than they did last week beating the Chargers. Love looks quite good. Lions surprising out how of sync they are, and the bad turnovers. This, so far, looks like the same Lions team that played the Ravens.

Redskins at the Cowboys is the traditional game (yes, I know, Commanders. I hate "Commanders" btw, and hope the new ownership gets rid of this stupid name). No, Redskins is worse, but a Native American theme would be I think very welcome by every Washington fan, and almost every NFL fan, and citizen.

Seattle listed Geno as "questionable" because they had to say something after that Burrow debacle last week, but reports are he looks good. They need him to have a chance. This rivalry should be good as always, but the 49ers looked red hot last week.
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I liked the "Washington Football Team".

The first two GB drives had me thinking that I was watching one of the best Os and QB1s in the league, as did a few other drives later on. Maybe Love will end up being better than I thought.

DET/Goff looked good on their first scoring drive, but looked bad a lot too. I like 'brave play calling' as much as anyone, but I don't like stupid play calling...are you listening Coach Campbell?!
 
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That is horrible about Brees. Anyone recall when he retired and reporters that were speculating he would play one more year were immediately shot down by his wife who listed all of his injuries, and it sounded like Drew had been in a bad car wreck with all the things wrong with him.
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Brees in his last season at NO, played with broken ribs, a collapse lung, torn facia in the foot & a torn rotator cuff in his throwing arm! (started 12 games!):
  
I'm sure this where pain killer injections come in - there's no way any athlete could even attempt to play with the pain associated with those type of injuries.

Do you remember the iconic movie North Dallas Forty? Aging WR Phil Elliot (Nick Nolte) needed pain killer injections before every game due to a plethora of injuries he had. And there was that scene where their rookie 1st rd stud RB strained his hamstring & wanted time off for recovery telling the trainer "no way...am I messing with those pain killers!" The scene shifts to the HC coming into the training room convincing & coercing the young rookie that he needs to take the injection or he'll be letting the team down.

IMO, the biggest darkest secret in the NFL isn't PED use but pain medication that's chronically used/abused just to get these players on the field. Owners expect miracle performances from their top players & that includes playing hurt. We probably don't know the half of it.
 
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I’m curious how much issues Brady has or will have as he gets older for how long he played.

Time will tell on the Chiefs but one is also a fool to ignore their issues that have gotten worse each season. Mahomes can play at 100% and the team still lose due to the drops or penalties. I think they do miss EB’s discipline and need a solid 2 or higher receiver for continued success.

Lions with a tough loss but it’s hard to win when you turn the ball over 3 times. They should still win the division and solid fourth best NFC team but can’t shake their Thanksgiving losing streak. Packers could sneak into the playoffs if they play like this more.

Cowboys look to be the third best team in the NFC but will have to go on the road as Eagles are hard to catch barring an implosion. EB is proving those that said it was a bad move going to Washington wrong with how Howell is playing and leading the league. Most thought they’d be in Carolina’s position.

Niners with a dominant win over the Seahawks and hold firm to the number two team.

Tomorrow I hope the Dolphins bring their A game to hold their AFCE advantage and try to secure second in the AFC.
 
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Nomad said:
Do you remember the iconic movie North Dallas Forty?
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I definitely do. I saw it again a dozen or so years back. Loosely based on the Dallas Cowboys from the Don Merideth, Lance Alworth days. Mac Davis (underrated talent!) did a great job as the QB, and GD Spradlin had Tom Landry down. This was based on a memoir of sorts by their 4th string receiver, Peter Gent. A few NFL players were in the film, John Matuzak, Dan Bunz. And others advised on it. The NFL didn't take lightly to this, and they were in some ways blacklisted.

Agree on pain meds being a serious issue swept under the rug. Toradol and Tramadol alone are two potent pain killers widely used, not to mention whatever shots of cortisone or whatever else they can use that's legal. Tommy Reamon is the actor who is the rookie that gets the shot. He was actually an NFL player as well, but maybe made his best mark as being the leading rusher in the WFL in the one complete season they had.

I have told the story before about how in the 1994 AFC Championship game where the Chargers beat the Steelers, Stan Brock told me that was the toughest game he ever played in. When the game was over about half the Charger team was in the training room. When he said that I pictured North Dallas Forty.
 
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