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I'm curious what this means for the career of Hendon Hooker. In case everyone forgot about him, in the middle of the 2022 NCAA season he lit things up at Tennessee, and was a top Heisman candidate, SEC offensive player of the year, a likely top 10 draft pick, maybe top 5, then tore his ACL and couldn't finish the college season, couldn't participate in the Combine or Pro Day, and fell to Detroit, and he sat on the bench and healed his entire rookie season. Not one single snap. Barely practiced at the end of the year. But Hooker is also another "older" QB, who will be 26 this year. Goff is still only 29, and has been one of the most durable QBs in the NFL.

I expect to see a lot of Hooker in camp, and the pre-season. Unless he looks bad, I can't believe teams have completely forgotten about him. Someone, perhaps a team who wasn't able to draft a QB, might trade for him?

I'm sticking to my prediction of about 6 games until he suffers another serious injury. Go ahead and call me a pessimist. Jets also have what appears to be the toughest schedule in the league. I remember back to last season when it was announced all their tough games in 2023 would be early, but their schedule was favorable, which would be great for Rodgers. Ooops, never got there.
Never followed Hooker, big loot for Goff and a clear signal. Hooker is 6 three.
I am curious to your prediction on Aaron Rodgers durability. He is old for sure but @6 games is a third of the season, why do you think he makes it that far? I don't really follow that injury, knees, and other leg injuries look to be a toss up for long term recovery. Running backs are a low probability of being permanently repaired. I don't like Rodgers for a variety of reasons. I personally think that his spare time ( all his media about things other than football) are a bad sign. Certainly he was dedicated to rehab, but it just doesn't register for me as 1000% serious like if Brady suffered the same injury. For me it's always a weird dynamic with the Jets, I worked full time, overtime trying to like them and even getting Tomlinson didn't change me..
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Rodgers very well could last less than 6 games. He has a history of being fairly durable, and avoiding big hits. But as noted a full Achilles tear is not like a high ankle sprain. As I look at their schedule, I think five of those games are on turf, and the Meadowlands is one of the few stadiums to have the split-turf players hate (unless they changed it this off-season, too lazy to look up), that can't help. One thing I am pretty confident of, is he will not make it through the season. That would really shock me at his age, on that team, that situation, that field, that injury.

Speaking of, it's almost funny reading all these "expert" predictions about what team is going to win how many games, without acknowledging how huge of an impact player injuries are to teams, especially QB injures. And all we have to do is look back to last year and get a really good idea what is probably this season as well. It's like everyone is assuming everyone will stay 100% healthy, without even commenting on such an absurdity.

Some good games in the UFL this weekend. Just two weeks left in the season. Oddly, with the playoffs all but set, even with this short 10 game season I see every playoff team resting players in week 10. This is especially true as it's quite possible the same four teams who will play in the divisional semi-finals, will be playing each other in week 10! We'll see.
 
I'll be really shocked if the Chargers go 12-5. Totally shocked. Then again, if they stay completely healthy, and other teams have players and QBs drop like flies, anything is possible. I agree with whomever said the Chargers are off-season media darlings almost every year, and this one is no different. But now the expectations are a lot higher. The hype has been around for a while, but now they have pieces in place, and Harbaugh who is reputed to be the coach for Herbert. Anything less than 10 wins and a real shot at the playoffs has to be a real disappointment.

Looking at some of these other "expert" analysis it's interesting they expect most of the rookie QBs will be good, or really good, the exception being Drake Maye who seems to be mostly ignored, everyone accepting NE is rebuilding. The hype around Nix being led to greatness by Payton are already starting. These experts are also expecting most everyone to be completely healthy. While you can say "how can they predict injuries?" Well, they would comment on them as a possibility. That includes Aaron Rodgers. They also have expectations that Kirk Cousins will not only be ready to go, 100%, stay healthy, but play better than he ever has. I'll be surprised if this happens. In fact, it would not shock me if they struggle, and by about week 12, Michael Penix is their starting QB. We'll see.

I can see the same thing, maybe sooner, in Pittsburgh. I don't see Russell Wilson being very good, but I see Justin Fields settling in quite well there. Unless they are about 8-4 after week 12, I can see Fields being handed the keys.

The same NFL expert Cynthia Freulud and all her stat analysis thinks the Raiders will regress to 6-11, losing two more games than last season, even though the only real tangible players they lost are Josh Jacobs (who was often hurt, and outplayed by his backups), RT Jermaine Elemeneur, who was fairly average, and Jimmy Garappolo, who sucked and was benched, and Hunter Renfrow who is about 3 years past his peak and was below average. So why they will regress to back where they were when Josh McDaniels was their coach...well, maybe she foresees a lot of injuries?
 
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I'll be really shocked if the Chargers go 12-5. Totally shocked. Then again, if they stay completely healthy, and other teams have players and QBs drop like flies, anything is possible. I agree with whomever said the Chargers are off-season media darlings almost every year, and this one is no different. But now the expectations are a lot higher. The hype has been around for a while, but now they have pieces in place, and Harbaugh who is reputed to be the coach for Herbert. Anything less than 10 wins and a real shot at the playoffs has to be a real disappointment.

Looking at some of these other "expert" analysis it's interesting they expect most of the rookie QBs will be good, or really good, the exception being Drake Maye who seems to be mostly ignored, everyone accepting NE is rebuilding. The hype around Nix being led to greatness by Payton are already starting. These experts are also expecting most everyone to be completely healthy. While you can say "how can they predict injuries?" Well, they would comment on them as a possibility. That includes Aaron Rodgers. They also have expectations that Kirk Cousins will not only be ready to go, 100%, stay healthy, but play better than he ever has. I'll be surprised if this happens. In fact, it would not shock me if they struggle, and by about week 12, Michael Penix is their starting QB. We'll see.

I can see the same thing, maybe sooner, in Pittsburgh. I don't see Russell Wilson being very good, but I see Justin Fields settling in quite well there. Unless they are about 8-4 after week 12, I can see Fields being handed the keys.

The same NFL expert Cynthia Freulud and all her stat analysis thinks the Raiders will regress to 6-11, losing two more games than last season, even though the only real tangible players they lost are Josh Jacobs (who was often hurt, and outplayed by his backups), RT Jermaine Elemeneur, who was fairly average, and Jimmy Garappolo, who sucked and was benched, and Hunter Renfrow who is about 3 years past his peak and was below average. So why they will regress to back where they were when Josh McDaniels was their coach...well, maybe she foresees a lot of injuries?
I could actually see LV winning 10 games.
 
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I'll be really shocked if the Chargers go 12-5. Totally shocked. Then again, if they stay completely healthy, and other teams have players and QBs drop like flies, anything is possible. I agree with whomever said the Chargers are off-season media darlings almost every year, and this one is no different. But now the expectations are a lot higher. The hype has been around for a while, but now they have pieces in place, and Harbaugh who is reputed to be the coach for Herbert. Anything less than 10 wins and a real shot at the playoffs has to be a real disappointment.

Looking at some of these other "expert" analysis it's interesting they expect most of the rookie QBs will be good, or really good, the exception being Drake Maye who seems to be mostly ignored, everyone accepting NE is rebuilding. The hype around Nix being led to greatness by Payton are already starting. These experts are also expecting most everyone to be completely healthy. While you can say "how can they predict injuries?" Well, they would comment on them as a possibility. That includes Aaron Rodgers. They also have expectations that Kirk Cousins will not only be ready to go, 100%, stay healthy, but play better than he ever has. I'll be surprised if this happens. In fact, it would not shock me if they struggle, and by about week 12, Michael Penix is their starting QB. We'll see.

I can see the same thing, maybe sooner, in Pittsburgh. I don't see Russell Wilson being very good, but I see Justin Fields settling in quite well there. Unless they are about 8-4 after week 12, I can see Fields being handed the keys.

The same NFL expert Cynthia Freulud and all her stat analysis thinks the Raiders will regress to 6-11, losing two more games than last season, even though the only real tangible players they lost are Josh Jacobs (who was often hurt, and outplayed by his backups), RT Jermaine Elemeneur, who was fairly average, and Jimmy Garappolo, who sucked and was benched, and Hunter Renfrow who is about 3 years past his peak and was below average. So why they will regress to back where they were when Josh McDaniels was their coach...well, maybe she foresees a lot of injuries?
Lots of wild forecasts for the Jets and Chargers. That said I could see both teams hovering around the final playoff spot late in the season more so the Chargers who still don't have the depth of other teams and need their best team on the field regularly which always seems to be a problem for them. As for Vegas as long as their run game is decent they should also be thereabouts before the playoffs. Not convinced by Denver at all or their coach who could be in trouble if they have another dud season. The pressure goes back on him now after getting their expensive QB canned because he seemingly couldn't work with him............Denver ownership have showed that they will sacrifice money to make changes so I don't think the coach is going to be given extra time to get it right either.I can possibly see the Cowboys regressing. Hard to know what the Eagles and Bills will do. Bengals could be improvers. The Bears who knows ?
 
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Good Lord. More horsecrap coming out of that guy's mouth. If it's not one thing it's another. Remember how he was about to retire to host Jeopardy? Now this.
Not convinced by Denver at all or their coach who could be in trouble if they have another dud season. The pressure goes back on him now after getting their expensive QB canned because he seemingly couldn't work with him............Denver ownership have showed that they will sacrifice money to make changes so I don't think the coach is going to be given extra time to get it right either.
If the Broncos don't look like they have a bright future with Nix by season's end, I can easily see Sean Payton on the hot seat. Even as big of name that he is, they brought him in with so much hype, and so much money. I'm not saying he'll be fired if they go 7-10, but there will be rumblings, and a LOT of pressure on him to take them to the playoffs by 2025, without question.
I can possibly see the Cowboys regressing.
They were 12-5 the last three seasons, and since they barely moved the needle in FA or the draft, I can see another 12-5 season with a quick exit in the playoffs, again.
Hard to know what the Eagles and Bills will do. Bengals could be improvers. The Bears who knows ?
Agree on all. Eagles and Bills. Both teams could go 13-4, or 10-7 and struggle. Bengals are riding everything on Joe Burrow both staying healthy, and going back to his 2021-2022 playing ability. Bears have a load of young talent, which will help Caleb, but I'm not 100% certain they have a complete, solid team there ready to contend.

The team, and player I expect to really struggle is Minnesota with JJ McCarthy. I see them going 4-13. I also noticed that T.J. Hockenson is also not likely to return until mid-season. But don't let me stop your hype train, Viking fans. I already see the articles about how great he looks in camp.
 
If the Broncos don't look like they have a bright future with Nix by season's end, I can easily see Sean Payton on the hot seat. Even as big of name that he is, they brought him in with so much hype, and so much money. I'm not saying he'll be fired if they go 7-10, but there will be rumblings, and a LOT of pressure on him to take them to the playoffs by 2025, without question.
I think if the Broncos don't make the playoffs with or without Nix, Payton is done. They finished 8-9 last year & were supposed to be a playoff caliber team, according to Payton. Payton blames Wilson for the team's failure going so far as benching Wilson for the last 2 games when the team was 7-8 & still in playoff contention. Lol I don't think ownership will tolerate a "rebuilding" season in Payton's second year.

Last year Tepper fires Reich in his first season at Carolina with a rookie QB! (as mentioned before, when Tepper saw the success that Houston was having with Stroud, this infuriated him to no end. Lol). Also, Adam Gase was fired in 2020 after only two seasons at NYJ (7-9 & 2-14) when he couldn't win with Darnold, who played his second & third seasons under Gase

These days, new coaches are given a small window to win & make the playoffs - especially if they have an elite QB or top drafted QB that starts right away. If not, these coaches get the wrath of ownership & find themselves quicky fired.
 
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"By example, 6 a.m. to 5 p.m., every day," coach Antonio Pierce said at the owners meetings in March. "Every day [Crosby] shows up ready to work. So when you've got those kinds of guys in your building, either vocally or by example, you've got a good culture and a good place."

 
Payton blames Wilson for the team's failure..
Let's not forget he was the one guy who could "fix" Russell Wilson (according to Sean himself). I don't have the exact quote, but that's pretty much what Payton said. Let's also not forget Greg Penner (primary owner) gave Payton the keys to the entire garage. Referring to Payton as the CEO of the team, the one true leader of everything. Basically saying he had more power than GM George Paton, more power than team president Damani Leech, and everyone knows this.

I'm not going to dig up my old posts, but I too found it incredulous than when Wilson was playing okay, not great, but okay, Sean benched him. Then the whole thing was so bad they couldn't hold onto him for one more season, even as a back-up and they drafted a QB (Nix), and instead flushed $80m down the toilet? Not just $80m cash that the Walton-Penner's can pay, I mean $80m in cap money. Potentially setting them back a couple seasons. The whole thing was a disaster. As big or bigger of disaster than what Nathanial Hackett and George Paton did. Let's not also forget Denver is paying $35m of Russ' salary this season, as he plays for the Steelers.

So yes, it's show real improvement with the QB you wanted, the QB you call the next Drew Brees. Show it in 2024. And we expect to see a playoff showing and potential Super Bowl run in the years after that. We are paying you $20m a year to do this. Nothing else is acceptable.
These days, new coaches are given a small window to win & make the playoffs - especially if they have an elite QB or top drafted QB that starts right away. If not, these coaches get the wrath of ownership & find themselves quickly fired.
Yep. Most owners are like David Tepper, he just shows it on the outside. Others are not that outspoken or extroverted. But most of them come from that same corporate CEO mentality, upper crest of extreme wealth, and are used to getting their way with almost everything at the snap of a finger.
 
Overrated is an understatement - already a bust, IMO. Staley was the scapegoat & they bring in the great Jim Harbaugh as the savior. Lol.
I was eagerly awaiting your comment! :)

"In his four seasons as a starter, Herbert has led the Bolts to a middling 30-32 regular season record and lost his lone playoff game. That playoff loss was an all-time choke job, too."

So they have now given him everything to succeed, and likely expect him to take them on a playoff run, and win a playoff game this time. He's not terrible, but with that money, those expectations?

"Ain't exactly elite."

Yep. So I'll believe it when I see it. He's on the precipice of being the next Sam Darnold, falling into what I said before: The kid has potential, and he forever will.

I work with a Chargers fan. He likes Herbert, but will only defend him so far. He has a "wait and see" attitude with Harbaugh and Herbert. I get that. But even he says the $260m deal Herbert got was absurd. He blames John Spanos, who is apparently the one now calling all the shots, and the Chargers version of David Tepper. Older brother AG (Alex) is also getting his elbows in there.

The entire Spanos family have always been terrible owners. Dean's father, Alex fired the team's best coach ever, Don Coryell after he had 12 winning seasons. Alex (and Dean) fired Marty Schottenheimer after the team went 14-2 and lost to Tom Brady's Patriots in a gut wrenching loss. They blew whatever chance they had at getting a stadium in San Diego, by expecting voters to pay for nearly all of it, and refusing to work with so many others on upgrades or other potential deals.

If my co-worker is right, while Dean made the announcement, it is his son John who made the decision to flush Staley (and Telesco). Though at least John apparently was willing to pony up the money to hire Harbaugh, since his father and grandfather were always cheap. Though the team is making easy money simply renting Stan Kronke's stadium. If I read the tea leaves right, the Chargers also got a sweet deal on the land, and building, of The Bolt, their new practice facility in pricy El Segundo, next to an old Chevron fuel storage area.

I'm sure expectations are high. Higher than in Denver.
 
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I think Alpe is right about Wilson. He's a bust & probably isn't going to make it in this league. He wasn't looking good at all with the 1st team O throwing a pick in a controlled 11 on 11 drill.

One of the journalists that covers the Broncos was on the local sports talk radio show here today giving his assessment of Wilson. He says despite an exceptional arm, Wilson just doesn't have it & believes Wilson won't be on the roster come Sept 4th.
 
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What does the crew here think about Gable Steveson getting signed by BUF? He has the size, strength, feet, hands.. to be a pro bowl D lineman, but how fast can he learn the game? I wish him luck!

I had to laugh when I read one talking head say that BUF signing him starts a dangerous precedent. Yes, all of those genetic freak, GOLD medal wrestlers flooding the NFL. There will probably be 100s 1 of them.