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It’d just be the question on talent getting down the field and catching the ball then oline blocking to help create time. But they can be improved from this year in long sustained drives I would think.
You also coach it to take advantage of zone defense, 2 guys all out streaking sometimes causes blown coverage or too much coverage and it opens up lots more shorter underneath stuff, Kelce is not getting younger or faster and anything that can take pressure off of him and others coming out of the backfield is good, don't know what the percentage of Isiah Pacheco getting tackled by defensive backs but if you can make 2 or 3 players unavailable to tackle or help tackle him you are winning.
 
That's nonsense that Purdy has a "weak arm."
I presume you were not quoting me as a disagreement, as I said his arm was average - as in average for an NFL QB, which is plenty good enough to make it in the NFL. I'll argue Peyton Manning had an average arm. He was also better than any QB in my life at finding the one guy who was barely open and getting the ball there with perfect timing. Even better than Brady. I just think Brady was more clutch. More clutch than any player in history actually.

Agree completely on Lawerence contract. That amount is "take us to the Super Bowl" type of money. No other way to interpret it.
You also coach it to take advantage of zone defense, 2 guys all out streaking sometimes causes blown coverage or too much coverage and it opens up lots more shorter underneath stuff, Kelce is not getting younger or faster and anything that can take pressure off of him and others coming out of the backfield is good, don't know what the percentage of Isiah Pacheco getting tackled by defensive backs but if you can make 2 or 3 players unavailable to tackle or help tackle him you are winning.
Speaking of. Tom Brady absolutely surgically destroyed defenses like this. His ability to shred even the best zone defenses (with guys like Gronk, Edelman, Amendola, Welker, or various RBs running the routes you speak of) was so well known even teams that perfected zones, like Tomlin in Pittsburgh, would frequently play man coverage or a Cover 1, when they played New England. Of course that often didn't matter. Someone made a mistake in man coverage and Tom would make them pay.
 
It what seems like madness to me, Miami is apparently on the cusp of paying Tua about the same deal Justin Herbert got. About $260m with about $200m guaranteed. Outside of a few impressive games in the clear skies of September and October, mostly throwing the ball to speedsters, putting up some good numbers, what has Tua done to earn this kind of cash?? He's good, but top five paid QBs in the entire league good?

Don't get me wrong, Justin Herbert isn't worth that kind of cash either. But if you were the owner of a team would you sink about 1/7th of your entire payroll into Tua?

If I were Miami I'd make him play out this last year on his rookie deal. I realize if he has a superb year it will cost another $10m per year. So be it. If not, they can always move on from him, or just tag him and eat $45m for a year.
 
It is absolute madness with that proposed contract. Let's look at some numbers here: In 51 starts over 4 seasons he may be a respectable 32-19 but no division titles & 0-1 in his lone playoff appearance last season. He's missed 10 games due to injuries including a stint on IR in 2022. He missed the playoff game in 2022 due to a concussion. This is not the expectations of a #5 OA pick - 2nd QB taken behind Burrow. And Burrow has already taken the Bengals to the SB with a 5-2 postseason record while Tua can't even win a playoff game! Lol.

He's sustained two concussions one of which the more serious grade 3. He has a bad hip from that major trauma injury while at Alabama. Tua even said at the end of the 2022 season, he considerd retirement because of the injuries. And the way he played in the playoff game last season against KC he may have had an undisclosed injury.

IMO, he's heading toward bust territory (another Carson Wentz). Why on Earth would ownership give him that kind of $$$ with his poor playoff performance & uncertainty of his durability? Unbelievable the way these owners think (but I guess when you got zillions of the dollars to throw around it doesn't matter much to them. Lol).

 
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Biggest QB in the draft - Josh Allen type size. Good athleticism (4.6 speed). Deceptively strong arm. Didn't see him play much at North Carolina but he was winner in Mack Brown's "air raid" offense.

It'll be interesting to see how he does in preseason games & if he's ready to start opening day. He's a young guy at 21, so you wonder about his maturity. NE can't afford to get this wrong again like they did with Jones or Kraft runs the risk of being the laughingstock of the league.
 
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The problem with Maye is the Pats are heading for a near total rebuild. The good news is starting next year, and the year after, the Patriots will be loaded with cash to spend on free agency. Maye might get some sort of mulligan this year, but if they make rebuilding strides and in 2025 he looks like he doesn't have it, I imagine Kraft will get really antsy.

As to Deshaun Watson, I'll believe he's that good when I see it. It seems strange to me how many people are letting him, and the Browns, off the hook. He's been paid insane money, like: "Win MVP or take this talented team deep into the playoffs, like an AFC Championship, with you leading the offense" kind of money, and the apologists for him saying he's been hurt, the team's offense isn't good enough, he doesn't have enough receivers, etc. is unreal.

I think Nick Chubb's goal should be to get back on the field some time this year, if he's truly 100% healthy, that's it.

Every season on average 7 new teams make the playoffs in the NFL (and 7 from the previous year don't). Anyone want to make a list who they think will/won't this coming season?
 
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The problem with Maye is the Pats are heading for a near total rebuild. The good news is starting next year, and the year after, the Patriots will be loaded with cash to spend on free agency. Maye might get some sort of mulligan this year, but if they make rebuilding strides and in 2025 he looks like he doesn't have it, I imagine Kraft will get really antsy.

As to Deshaun Watson, I'll believe he's that good when I see it. It seems strange to me how many people are letting him, and the Browns, off the hook. He's been paid insane money, like: "Win MVP or take this talented team deep into the playoffs, like an AFC Championship, with you leading the offense" kind of money, and the apologists for him saying he's been hurt, the team's offense isn't good enough, he doesn't have enough receivers, etc. is unreal.

I think Nick Chubb's goal should be to get back on the field some time this year, if he's truly 100% healthy, that's it.

Every season on average 7 new teams make the playoffs in the NFL (and 7 from the previous year don't). Anyone want to make a list who they think will/won't this coming season?
Didn't realize it was that many but some people are predicting the Rams and Browns will go backwards. Don't see that happening with the Rams, Browns ,,,,,,,,,maybe. Some also predicting that the 49ers won't make the playoffs which would surprise me as their roster has had minimal change apart from losing an up and down Chase Young and a regularly injured Arik Armstead, Kinlaw was a back up so not a big loss. their biggest stat drop off last year was their run defense but they were still a top five defense and the most productive offense. I still see the 49ers and Rams on top in the NFC West. Seattle could improve and that division has had three teams in the playoffs before. I think it's too soon for the Cardinals with the new coach and their new lot of high draft picks but it could be an interesting division unlike last year when Seattle dropped off and the Cards struggled.

I have a feeling the Cowboys could take a dive and I'm not sold on the Eagles even with the good off season. Many are predicting the Bengals and Chargers as improvers some say the Colts as well. Falcons and GB will be interesting. In the AFC I tend to think it will be the usual suspects around the top five teams including the Texans. Not sold on the Jets either. See what Rodgers and co can conjure up ! See the Patriots maybe mid level or worse. The Bills are a strange one. If anything I like the Ravens more. I could see it come down to the 49ers v Lions/Rams in the NFC and Kansas v Ravens/Texans in the AFC.
 
If I read it correctly Nomad, you only have two teams making next year's playoffs that didn't this year (Cin, Jax). Otherwise, completely the same. Parity of which the NFL has not seen in decades?

Didn't realize it was that many but some people are predicting the Rams and Browns will go backwards. Don't see that happening with the Rams, Browns ,,,,,,,,,maybe. Some also predicting that the 49ers won't make the playoffs which would surprise me as their roster has had minimal change apart from losing an up and down Chase Young and a regularly injured Arik Armstead, Kinlaw was a back up so not a big loss. their biggest stat drop off last year was their run defense but they were still a top five defense and the most productive offense. I still see the 49ers and Rams on top in the NFC West. Seattle could improve and that division has had three teams in the playoffs before. I think it's too soon for the Cardinals with the new coach and their new lot of high draft picks but it could be an interesting division unlike last year when Seattle dropped off and the Cards struggled.

I have a feeling the Cowboys could take a dive and I'm not sold on the Eagles even with the good off season. Many are predicting the Bengals and Chargers as improvers some say the Colts as well. Falcons and GB will be interesting. In the AFC I tend to think it will be the usual suspects around the top five teams including the Texans. Not sold on the Jets either. See what Rodgers and co can conjure up ! See the Patriots maybe mid level or worse. The Bills are a strange one. If anything I like the Ravens more. I could see it come down to the 49ers v Lions/Rams in the NFC and Kansas v Ravens/Texans in the AFC.
Rams remain in transition, and it will be interesting to see how Stafford holds up. I'm impressed he made it through last season, and played quite well. His body seemed done to me after 2022. I agree with you on both Dallas and the Eagles. I'm more curious than anything about the AFC South. Four young hotshot QBs in that division leading their teams. Stroud, Lawerence, Richardson and Levis.

Many of those teams success (heck, ALL teams) rely a lot on injuries not happening, and the health of the QB is key. Cincinnati has to top almost any list, followed by the Jets. Though of course if Mahomes or Lamar go down, that's it for their team. The Bills are in a peculiar spot to guess. They lost several players, but most were aging and/or overpaid. They should get a few key players who were hurt last year back, and in the off-season they signed and drafted several position players that don't jump out at anyone, but look like guys who could have solid NFL careers, which is how teams are built.

SF strikes me as a team that might show their power late in the season. Like when Greelaw and Hufanga are back. However, their schedule is tougher late (Packers, Bills, Dolphins, Lions, Rams).
 
If I read it correctly Nomad, you only have two teams making next year's playoffs that didn't this year (Cin, Jax). Otherwise, completely the same. Parity of which the NFL has not seen in decades?
That's because of the injuries to the QBs that unravels everything year to year. My predictions are based on the premise that none of the starting QBs on my list gets injured missing either the entire season or a significant amount of playing time. But we both know that's not going to happen as the trend lately is suggesting about a third of the starting QBs sustain a season ending injury or miss significant time from an injury (>2 games). I have no way of predicting which QBs will get hurt with any degree of certainty (other than I think there's a strong likelyhood Rodgers will get hurt again - aren't you predicting he won't make it through the season?).

NYJ, Cinncinati, Tennessee, LAC & Jacksonville's seasons fell apart when Rodgers, Burrow, Tannehill, Herbert & Lawrence all got injured (even though Lawrence missed only one game he tried playing through the last 6 games with 3 significant injuries that impacted his performance going 1-5 in that home stretch). We know if the likes of Mahomes, Allen, Jackson, Tua, etc, were to suffer season ending injuries it would be disastrous for those teams.

So, my predictions are nothing more than a fantasy that's based on an unrealistic premise than none of those QBs get hurt. Unfortunately, I think it'll be another bad year of injuries to QBs, so the backups have got to be ready to step up (nothing new there. Lol).
 
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If I read it correctly Nomad, you only have two teams making next year's playoffs that didn't this year (Cin, Jax). Otherwise, completely the same. Parity of which the NFL has not seen in decades?


Rams remain in transition, and it will be interesting to see how Stafford holds up. I'm impressed he made it through last season, and played quite well. His body seemed done to me after 2022. I agree with you on both Dallas and the Eagles. I'm more curious than anything about the AFC South. Four young hotshot QBs in that division leading their teams. Stroud, Lawerence, Richardson and Levis.

Many of those teams success (heck, ALL teams) rely a lot on injuries not happening, and the health of the QB is key. Cincinnati has to top almost any list, followed by the Jets. Though of course if Mahomes or Lamar go down, that's it for their team. The Bills are in a peculiar spot to guess. They lost several players, but most were aging and/or overpaid. They should get a few key players who were hurt last year back, and in the off-season they signed and drafted several position players that don't jump out at anyone, but look like guys who could have solid NFL careers, which is how teams are built.

SF strikes me as a team that might show their power late in the season. Like when Greelaw and Hufanga are back. However, their schedule is tougher late (Packers, Bills, Dolphins, Lions, Rams).
Yes forgot Greenlaw. A huge loss and Hufanga's run defense was missing last season but his pass defense can be suspect and good QB's often get him to bite and catch him out of position. Most of the concerns for the 49ers seem to be about the defense. Hargrave needs to be better and couldn't repeat what he did with the Eagles. They did the right thing not extending Young who was hit and miss but weirdly had a great first half in the SB but once again fell away in the second half..

Yes the AFC South should be very interesting. Be strange seeing Jimmy G in a Rams jersey !
 
... I think there's a strong likelihood Rodgers will get hurt again - aren't you predicting he won't make it through the season?).
Yes, I have the over/under at 6 games. LOL!
Unfortunately, I think it'll be another bad year of injuries to QBs, so the backups have got to be ready to step up (nothing new there. Lol).
Care to guess how many QBs played in the NFL last season? This number doesn't include wildcats and trick plays. Take a wild guess with your mind. I'll post it below.
Yes forgot Greenlaw. A huge loss and Hufanga's run defense was missing last season but his pass defense can be suspect and good
I think the tandem of losing first Hufanga, who as you point out is great against the run (for a safety), and Greenlaw, who is great in coverage (for a LB) hurt them more than people realize. Both guys have been named to All Pro squads in recent seasons. Fred Warner completes that trio of all stars on the SF back 7.
Yes the AFC South should be very interesting. Be strange seeing Jimmy G in a Rams jersey !
Jimmy is suspended the first two games. To me it's nice to hear Stetson Bennett has quietly showed up to OTAs and minicamp and played very well. Glad whatever issues he had (I'm presuming alcohol related?) seem if not totally behind him, in control or not affecting him. He had some very nice drives in the pre-season last year, between a few pretty typical bad rookie throws.

A full 60 quarterbacks took snaps in the NFL last season; sixty.
 
I'm more curious than anything about the AFC South. Four young hotshot QBs in that division leading their teams. Stroud, Lawerence, Richardson and Levis.
Definitely youngsters - the average age of those four is 23.

Who's your picks for the SB? I'm going for a rematch with SF & KC.

Back to back Super Bowls with the same two teams happen once before with Dallas & Buffalo (1993/94) where Dallas won both (Aikman era). I think KC will do it all over again (as long as Mahomes is healthy, you can never rule out the Chiefs).

And 60...wow, unbelievable!
 
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It would be quite disappointing if we ended up with another KC-SF Super Bowl. If we do, I'll take KC right now, by an even bigger margain. The two teams play in week 7, in SF, a game I see KC winning. Though the score in that game won't translate to a SB score.

I earlier predicted KC would go 16-1, only losing one game on the road, to the Raiders (week 8). Now, I'm not so sure about that number. But I also don't see anyone in the AFC stopping them. Maybe, perhaps, a healthy Cincinnati team or a healthy Baltimore team. Maybe. But after last year's pathetic coaching job by the Ravens, I see no reason to think Reid and Mahomes wouldn't find a way to outsmart them again. The other contenders: Buffalo, Miami, Houston, or an Indy team on the rise could I suppose upend them. An odd situation could happen where Aaron Rodgers gets hurt, only plays 8-10 games, but comes back in time for the playoffs healthy, and the Jets make a run.

I like Detroit's chances in the NFC. They lost very little in terms of players, and gained an even amount in return. They have numerous players right in their prime, and now have playoff experience, plus seem motivated after swallowing two bitter pills last year (losses to Dallas and SF). They also have the same HC, and OC. I think the Packers will surprise some people as well.

Of course any of these teams could suffer major injuries. Some likely will. I see no reason to think we won't see 60 QBs playing this coming year as well. That doesn't mean half will go down with season ending injuries, just that there will be a lot of disruption, a lot of missed games, drives, and more. It's inevitable.

One last thought on Indy. On the Maxx Crosby podcast he had Gardner Minshew as a guest, and he spoke very highly of Anthony Richardson. Said people are going to be surprised at how quick he is at getting the ball out, how he's learned to rapidly go through progressions. Something a lot of dual-threat or big running QBs don't often do (Kaepernick's biggest criticism). He also said Richardson is extremely studious, a very open mind to what the coaches have to say, and studies a lot on his own. Minshew also spoke very highly of Shane Steichen, so much so he was willing to stay in Indy as a back-up if they matched the Raiders offer (they didn't), and said Steichen is the perfect coach for Richardson. Also, the entire org is better run than people realize.
 
Of course any of these teams could suffer major injuries. Some likely will. I see no reason to think we won't see 60 QBs playing this coming year as well. That doesn't mean half will go down with season ending injuries, just that there will be a lot of disruption, a lot of missed games, drives, and more. It's inevitable.
No matter how you slice it, it'll be an injury ridden year for QBs. We'll probably start seeing some injuries occur in preseason camp. And it was concerning with last year's 1st rd drafted - face of the franchise - QBs who all started week #1 - all three sustained injuries missing at least one game with Richardson missing basically the entire season:

Richardson - missed week #3 (concussion), injured in week# 5 & out for the season (A/C joint).

Stroud - missed week #'s 15 & 16 (concussion).

Young - missed week # 3 (sprained ankle).

Young fared the best & was lucky it was only just a sprained ankle. Stroud's concussion was bad when he was drilled by the Jet's defender after being tackled to the ground. He collapsed as he was walking off the field. And Richardson was a lost cause almost as soon as he took the field. Since he sustained a major injury to his throwing shoulder requiring surgery - will he be 100% on that shoulder? Will he re-injure it? Will it hold up against a long 17 game season? (and you know defenders will target that shoulder). I think Indy better keep Flacco warmed up in the bullpen once the season starts. Lol.
 
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We all talk about the high rate of injuries especially at the QB position which comes with the nature of the job, but you can't help but feel sorry for this guy:

Good size, great speed, hard-hitting safety out of Cal (1st team all-Pac-12) drafted in 2023 by the Colts in the 5th rd. Torn ACL during the the 2023 OTAs & a torn Achilles in this year's OTAs. No prior injury history at Cal. Poor guy can't even get past OTAs into preseason camp to compete for a roster spot.
 
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Similar situation in KC. The Kansas State legislators voted to use bonds to fund super stadiums for both the Chiefs & Royals (Governor said she would sign the bill). This after the Kansas City voters on the Missouri side of the city rejected a sales tax increase that would partially fund the new stadiums (both Arrowhead & Kauffman stadium are located at the Truman Sports Complex in Jackson County in the portion of KC located in Missouri). Of course, Chiefs ownership was hinting at the moving the team to another state (e.g. Texas) after the voter's rejection (imagine that - threatening to move the team if the owners don't get their way. Lol).

 
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