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If they take Jeanty than CMC is definitely gone. This definitely seems like a Shanahan/Lynch pick. Not worry about the OL. But I think that would be a mistake, honestly.
My intent wasn't to post that link hoping you click on it & get annoyed. Lol.
I expect nothing less! ;)
Curious, are you angry with Mahomes because he & the Chiefs keep winning or that "how great he is?"
Not angry with him. Just sick of them winning. Sick of the way they win, their death by 1000 paper cuts offense has grown rather dull to watch. I am however angry with the favoritism they have received from officiating. It has gotten far beyond coincidence to me. I can blame him for a few plays, like baiting the Texans to hit him as he slowed to go out of bounds. This after he slowed to bait the 49ers, notice them slowing down, so he took off downfield running. I'm sick of him flopping and getting away with it. His tantrum after that play last year against Buffalo where they didn't get the off-sides call was also annoying as could be.

I'm sick of all that. But I don't deny he's an incredible QB.

If I boiled it down though, it would be the way in game after game, they get the most important calls, over and over. This is why my prediction remains the same, KC will win the SB, unless somehow, some way, the Eagles are ahead by more than 2 TDs late in 4Q. And I don't see that happening.

Mahomes is vastly more dedicated that Murry. And a significantly better passer. It's not even close.
 
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Good point - you wonder if CMC would regain anything close to his pre-injury form. Bilateral Achilles Tendonitis that kept him out that long is not good if you're a RB in this league. Then he partially tears his PCL in the comeback game against the Bills. Plus he'll be 29 this summer which is getting old for an NFL RB - especially one like him that's had a huge workload over his career.

I wonder if the 9ers would consider taking Ashton Jeanty - one of the best RB prospects in years? They have the 11th pick & Jeanty should be available at that pick.

Be surprised if they picked an RB that early but some people are thinking they will trade down for more picks so they might lose the 11 pick anyway. Usually they have a good record picking RB's late in the draft, the few they picked in the third round didn't turn out as good. Think their needs on defense and O line are greater in this draft but no doubt Jeanty will get plenty of interest. You would think the Cowboys and Washington would be very interested maybe also the Bears,Rams and Seattle. 49ers have also been linked with Tyler Warren the TE. The past few TE's they have drafted have been flops and with Kittle getting older I think it's a possibility but Warren is expected to go in the first round as well. He's also a good blocker like Kittle and versatile with the ball,

According to a report today CMC is back on his regular training schedule from next week. No news on Aiyuk or Williams but Aiyuk's ACL was a bad one while Greenlaw is also a query and a free agent. 49ers would be tempted to pay him a one year deal and see how his injury goes before a longer extension but interest from other teams may nix that idea.
 
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I don't think it's the raw speed, I think KC will just be throwing a lot of short-mid passes against a Philly D that doesn't press that much, and continually chew their way downfield. Though if they do press, that leaves the opening for KC to take chances deeper in 1:1 coverage. That's one reason I think KC wins - they will score enough. The second is I'm fairly confident Spagnola will contain Barkley enough, and force Hurts to throw deep, and he won't be able to with any consistency. Meaning - Philly won't score enough, and be behind most of the game, with no chance of winning late at all.

I would imagine the 49ers will let Greenlaw go, unless they swing a nice, short deal with him. He was nowhere near the player last year that he was in 2023. How much his Achilles impacted that, and if in 2025 he'll be fully healthy, is unknown. Ironically, had he not gotten hurt in the SB, he would have been the OLB on the strong side on that TD pass to Hardman. Fred Warner (who is one of the top 5 LBs in the NFL) has said Greenlaw is a better coverage LB than him. Andy Reid was no dummy to throw to that side of the field with Greenlaw out.

Hufanga the same. First team all-pro in 2022. Looked a shell of that person this last season. Was he not fully recovered from tearing his ACL in late 2023? This can also make 49er fans stew. What would have happened if neither Hufanga or Greenlaw been hurt last year, and played fully health in the Super Bowl? Of course the Bills can speculate what would have happened if they had Rapp last week. Or last year when Bernard missed the AFCD (Milano, and Poyer too). That's the way the cookie crumbles.
 
Eagles will get abused by Chiefs play design and the pick plays when called. I actually think Chiefs can be ran on. They’ve struggled with it in the past, Barkley is one of the best backs they faced, it’s against ann amazing oline, the Chiefs won’t have the advantage of the slippery field negating Eagles speed, and if Eagles get long drives Chiefs defense will be tired. I think the biggest advantage the Chiefs have is in their special teams. The offense and defenses are comparable and match up well against the other player wise, Chiefs have the advantage in coaching.
 
Kansas defense is the key it's been good all season, only slipped in one or two games and usually it's better in the playoffs. If they can limit Barkley then it gets tougher for the Eagles. I think the Chiefs also have the coaching advantage. Eagles like the 49ers were in a position to the win their previous SB with the Chiefs so they know how difficult it is to beat them and they know it usually comes down to a handful of plays late in the game.
 
I don't think it's the raw speed, I think KC will just be throwing a lot of short-mid passes against a Philly D that doesn't press that much, and continually chew their way downfield.
It's going to be raw speed in Philly's face. You got two of the fastest guys in the business in Worthy (4.21) & Hollywood Brown (4.27). That's a double-barrel of insane speed right at the Philly DBs. I'm sure Reid is going to send Worthy out of the blocks on some deep routes letting the Gunslinger launch some bombs.

WTH can you say about Worthy. He's the freakin leading receiver for the Chiefs in the postseason! (11 for 130 & a score). And he ended up as Mahomes' 2nd leading receiver during the regular season. What a rookie year!

I'm still amazed at a 165 pounder playing in a game of monstrous big men. Corners out weigh him, LBs/DEs have almost 100 lbs on him, interior down lineman weigh twice as much as him. And Worthy has taken some shots out there but bounces right back up.

Absolute genius in Reid drafting him! And to think Buffalo traded their 28th pick to KC foregoing Worthy. Lol. I think Worthy could be the difference in this SB. Worthy could catch a bomb or two for scores rattling the Philly secondary. Reid might be dial up some trick plays such as an end around or jailbreak screens that break for a score. Worthy is now a legimate threat that has DCs concerned.

Speed never has a bad day.

 
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Not angry with him. Just sick of them winning. Sick of the way they win, their death by 1000 paper cuts offense has grown rather dull to watch. I am however angry with the favoritism they have received from officiating. It has gotten far beyond coincidence to me. I can blame him for a few plays, like baiting the Texans to hit him as he slowed to go out of bounds. This after he slowed to bait the 49ers, notice them slowing down, so he took off downfield running. I'm sick of him flopping and getting away with it. His tantrum after that play last year against Buffalo where they didn't get the off-sides call was also annoying as could be.
What do you expect of the Gunslinger? He's going to be shrewd trying to get calls his way now that he's a Superstar QB (no surprises there). If he can bait defenders & suck them in him for late hits/ roughness penalties then more power to him. That's smart football on his part & defenders should just refrain from hitting him when he eventually falls down or steps out of bounds, etc.

It's not rocket science to refrain from drilling him avoiding the costly penalty when he's dancing around like that. Just contain him & once he does fall down or steps on the sideline then just touch him where the play will be called dead instead of drilling him. How stupid are these defenders to hit him when he's going down. Same thing when Mahomes is scrambling near the sideline - just lightly shove or push him out of bounds. No need to try & be a hero or something drilling him out of bounds- the defender is always going to get penalized!

Btw, Elway was cocky complaining to the refs a lot & would eventually get calls his way. And he would bait defenders running a tight line along the sidelines on a scramble stepping out of bounds just as he got hit hoping to draw the late hit penalty. And there were plenty of Elway haters back in the day (who knows...since you're a Raider fan, you might have been one of them? Lol).
 
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I guess Fields is given the car keys to the starting QB job next season.

And Glazer doesn't think Wilson will re-sign with the Raiders? Really? WTH is he going to go then? Cleveland? Back to Seattle? Lol

I can't imagine Carroll not wanting Wilson. He's not going to win with that rag tag bunch he currently has on the roster. The "experts" say the Raiders aren't willing to trade the house away to move up & grab Sanders or Ward. After these two, there's such a big drop off with the remaining QB prospects. With the exception of Milroe, they're all middle-rounders that may or may not be starting material - at least not in the immediate term.

If Davis wants Carroll to win NOW, they better get their QB problem resolved or they ain't going anywhere.
 
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I guess Fields is given the car keys to the starting QB job next season.

And Glazer doesn't think Wilson will re-sign with the Raiders? Really? WTH is he going to go then? Cleveland? Back to Seattle? Lol

I can't imagine Carroll not wanting Wilson. He's not going to win with that rag tag bunch he currently has on the roster. The "experts" say the Raiders aren't willing to trade the house away to move up & grab Sanders or Ward. After these two, there's such a big drop off with the remaining QB prospects. With the exception of Milroe, they're all middle-rounders that may or may not be starting material - at least not in the immediate term.

If Davis wants Carroll to win NOW, they better get their QB problem resolved or they ain't going anywhere.
Cleveland might be a possibility. Be surprised if it was the Raiders. Seattle no.
 
I don't think it's the raw speed, I think KC will just be throwing a lot of short-mid passes against a Philly D that doesn't press that much, and continually chew their way downfield. Though if they do press, that leaves the opening for KC to take chances deeper in 1:1 coverage. That's one reason I think KC wins - they will score enough. The second is I'm fairly confident Spagnola will contain Barkley enough, and force Hurts to throw deep, and he won't be able to with any consistency. Meaning - Philly won't score enough, and be behind most of the game, with no chance of winning late at all.

I would imagine the 49ers will let Greenlaw go, unless they swing a nice, short deal with him. He was nowhere near the player last year that he was in 2023. How much his Achilles impacted that, and if in 2025 he'll be fully healthy, is unknown. Ironically, had he not gotten hurt in the SB, he would have been the OLB on the strong side on that TD pass to Hardman. Fred Warner (who is one of the top 5 LBs in the NFL) has said Greenlaw is a better coverage LB than him. Andy Reid was no dummy to throw to that side of the field with Greenlaw out.

Hufanga the same. First team all-pro in 2022. Looked a shell of that person this last season. Was he not fully recovered from tearing his ACL in late 2023? This can also make 49er fans stew. What would have happened if neither Hufanga or Greenlaw been hurt last year, and played fully health in the Super Bowl? Of course the Bills can speculate what would have happened if they had Rapp last week. Or last year when Bernard missed the AFCD (Milano, and Poyer too). That's the way the cookie crumbles.
Well Greenlaw only played half of one game last season and he looked great but they shut him down at halftime after a tweak and he never returned for the rest of the season but Lynch made it clear that they want to re-sign him but of course it's all about the money involved and his fitness report. Most people expect Hufanga to be a gone, showed a few flashes but it seems they will move on, he also had multiple injury issues re ACL, wrist tendons and others. No doubt the Greenlaw injury in the SB was big especially after a poor first half by the Chiefs on offense. Soon as he disappeared the Chiefs started to look better.

Rumors going around now that the Rams may put Stafford on the trade bloc as well as Kupp which might be another landing spot for Wilson in the short term until the Rams find a long term QB if the rumors have substance. Not sure if they will bring back Jimmy G, he probably wasn't getting paid much anyway, another short term option unless they intend to make a move in the draft. Rams usually don't mind sacrificing picks and splashing on free agents for short term gains. They did it when they picked up Miller, Stafford and OBJ and that worked well. Interesting times ahead in the NFC West.
 
I guess Fields is given the car keys to the starting QB job next season.

And Glazer doesn't think Wilson will re-sign with the Raiders? Really? WTH is he going to go then? Cleveland? Back to Seattle? Lol

I can't imagine Carroll not wanting Wilson. He's not going to win with that rag tag bunch he currently has on the roster. The "experts" say the Raiders aren't willing to trade the house away to move up & grab Sanders or Ward. After these two, there's such a big drop off with the remaining QB prospects. With the exception of Milroe, they're all middle-rounders that may or may not be starting material - at least not in the immediate term.

If Davis wants Carroll to win NOW, they better get their QB problem resolved or they ain't going anywhere.
No way Wilson goes to the Raiders, Carroll wanted to move on from Wilson. Wouldn’t be surprised if Raiders try getting Kupp and Stafford. Sounds like a Brady move. Then some Lions fans are hoping Stafford replaces Goff in Detroit.
 
Stafford to the Raiders? He's 37 & at the tail end of his career. Why would he want to go to that dumpster fire where he would be under tremendous pressure to win immediately & contend for a SB? It would be like a Rodgers situation where the SB winning star & future HOFer is expected to perform miracles right from the get go.

It would seem like it would be more fitting for Stafford to finish out his career at LA & continue to do those mattress commercials with his hot wife.
 
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Stafford to the Raiders? He's 37 & at the tail end of his career. Why would he want to go to that dumpster fire where he would be under tremendous pressure to win immediately & contend for a SB? It would be like a Rodgers situation where the SB winning star & future HOFer is expected to perform miracles right from the get go.

It would seem like it would be more fitting for Stafford to finish out his career at LA & continue to do those mattress commercials with his hot wife.
The rumors don’t sound like Stafford wants to stay in LA if they’re to be believed. And yes, he played well this year and what better quarterback are you going to get?
 
And Glazer doesn't think Wilson will re-sign with the Raiders? Really? WTH is he going to go then? Cleveland? Back to Seattle? Lol

I can't imagine Carroll not wanting Wilson.
Well, he did try to get Pete fired in Seattle. Did you forget? Here he is, the QB you wish you still had on Denver:


I don't think Russ is as good as you do. He'll be 37 this coming season. He was only so-so, and lost his last five games. He's not going to lead the Raiders, or any other organization, on a deep playoff run, unless maybe he goes to KC, and Mahomes gets hurt late in the season.
Stafford to the Raiders? He's 37 & at the tail end of his career.
Yet you don't think the same about Wilson, who's like 7 months younger, but looks like he is fading away at a significantly faster rate and has far less in the tank?

If you are reading that the Raiders are looking to trade away the farm to move up and get Sander or Ward you're reading predictions from journos trying to get clicks. There is ZERO legitimate information coming out of LV like this, or anything else similar. None. And the whole "anonymous sources" has also come up with some of the most ridiculous speculations. It's just laughable. Believe me, I'm on just about every Raiders feed. There's no possible way you absorb more news, rumors, nonsense about the team than I do.

My gut tells me the Raiders won't make wild reaches for a QB to win in 2025. There just isn't the depth, and no available QB is going to take them deep into the playoffs, unless they somehow get Lamar, Mahomes, Allen or Burrow. Raiders have way too many holes to fill and that won't happen in one off-season. Mark Davis is on record saying he's patient, more so than Carroll. If Sanders or Ward fall to them at 6 in the draft, I'm sure they will take one of them. But my guess is they look to round 2 and try to grab Howard or Dart and see if that guy can compete in camp, or get ready to take over the team part way through the year, with Pete and Chip Kelly using a run-heavy RPO offense, making it (partly) easier on any QB.

If they do grab a vet, it won't be Wilson.
It would seem like it would be more fitting for Stafford to finish out his career at LA & continue to do those mattress commercials with his hot wife.
Now that I agree with!

I posted before Kupp will go somewhere in a deal where the Rams get a lesser player, or also give up a draft pick so that other team will take on his contract. Or they eat some of his contract as cash.
 
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Allen wins MVP narrowly over Lamar.
I was on a group ride about 4-5 years ago, at the finish we stopped at a coffee shop in La Jolla, got coffee, scones, regular coffee house stuff, we were sitting there and a short,fat,old, balding guy pulled up in a gorgeous Porsche 911 cabriolet convertible, guy was 70 something, he got out to open the door for his 20 something super model looking girlfriend, we all laughed but one of my friends involuntarily laughed so hard that a coffee, pastry mix was forced out of his nose and mouth!!! It just happened to me.. I clicked on the USAToday article linked above and when I scrolled down to see Bill Belichick girlfriend red carpet photo I lost it!! Now my bucket list dream would be to attend Thanksgiving or Christmas dinner with Belichick family when Bill brings girlfriend over.. I can't stop smiling!!!
 
Well, he did try to get Pete fired in Seattle. Did you forget? Here he is, the QB you wish you still had on Denver:


I don't think Russ is as good as you do. He'll be 37 this coming season. He was only so-so, and lost his last five games. He's not going to lead the Raiders, or any other organization, on a deep playoff run, unless maybe he goes to KC, and Mahomes gets hurt late in the season.

Yet you don't think the same about Wilson, who's like 7 months younger, but looks like he is fading away at a significantly faster rate and has far less in the tank?

If you are reading that the Raiders are looking to trade away the farm to move up and get Sander or Ward you're reading predictions from journos trying to get clicks. There is ZERO legitimate information coming out of LV like this, or anything else similar. None. And the whole "anonymous sources" has also come up with some of the most ridiculous speculations. It's just laughable. Believe me, I'm on just about every Raiders feed. There's no possible way you absorb more news, rumors, nonsense about the team than I do.

My gut tells me the Raiders won't make wild reaches for a QB to win in 2025. There just isn't the depth, and no available QB is going to take them deep into the playoffs, unless they somehow get Lamar, Mahomes, Allen or Burrow. Raiders have way too many holes to fill and that won't happen in one off-season. Mark Davis is on record saying he's patient, more so than Carroll. If Sanders or Ward fall to them at 6 in the draft, I'm sure they will take one of them. But my guess is they look to round 2 and try to grab Howard or Dart and see if that guy can compete in camp, or get ready to take over the team part way through the year, with Pete and Chip Kelly using a run-heavy RPO offense, making it (partly) easier on any QB.

If they do grab a vet, it won't be Wilson.

Now that I agree with!

I posted before Kupp will go somewhere in a deal where the Rams get a lesser player, or also give up a draft pick so that other team will take on his contract. Or they eat some of his contract as cash.
I didn't know Wilson tried to get Carroll fired - I thought they were good fishing buddies or something. I don't follow Seattle much or even the NFC for that fact. I'm more of an AFC guy - even more specifically with the AFC West & the Broncos.

I don't think Wilson is that good anymore as an aging QB. I put him in the same category as Rodgers questioning why he doesn't retire instead of trying to be a Superman in an attempt to rescue these struggling teams. Clearly his better days are behind him. Since I misunderstood & thought he & Carroll were good buds, I figured Carroll would want him in LV for a couple of seasons.

I don't see how Davis would be any more patient with Carroll than he was Pierce. Lol. Poor Pierce gets only one season at the helm & Davis runs him out of town? WTF? In fact, I would think there would be some pretty high expectations with Carroll since he's a SB coach & he was given an opportunity at a 2nd gig.

I'm guessing Carroll has to show signficant improvement over that dismal 4-13 record from last year - say 8 or 9 wins. Maybe not playoffs, but definitely an improvement over last year. If you use Sean Payton as a metric - in his first year he lead the Broncos to an 8-9 season from a 5-12 season the previous year under Hackett. Then of course, this year was the breakout season going 10-7 with a postseason appearance. I'd say Payton is accomplishing what he was hired to do.

Davis has a real dumpster fire there: 4-13 & bottom in the division last year. 18-33 in the last 3 yrs. The last postseason for the Raiders was in 2021 where they lost in the WC round. The last time they won a playoff game was way back in 2002! And according to the ESPN NFL home attendance data, the Raiders are second to last! I imagine Davis is starting to become a real laughing stock among NFL owners. Lol

But to put out that dumpster fire & turn things around, Carroll needs a franchise QB...and now! Contemplating with the idea of veteran FAs or thinking about experimenting with the rag tag group he currently has on the roster, is just reshuffling the deck chairs of the Titanic. Lol. He needs to get one of the top two guys this year in Sanders or Ward. Let Brady decide which one would be the best fit for the team (I'm sure he's more than qualified to do that). I doubt neither one will be available at 6, so Carroll & the GM better get ready to do some dealing moving up in the draft. You saw this past season what the power of the right franchise QB can do in Daniels & Nix!

You can forget Will Howard - the scouts have him going in the lower rounds as backup material. Jaxson Dart (one of my favorites, byw) is projected at low 2nd or high 3rd. He has potential as a starter with successful development but he's not considered a franchise QB & day one starter like Ward or Sanders. He's a dual-threat RPO guy with great athleticism & an above-average arm but he's not nearly as good as a passer as either Ward or Sanders (there's a couple of good scouting reports on him that you can read). Clearly though, the Big Dogs in this draft is Ward & Sanders.

Carroll better get the QB problem resolved or he doesn't have a snowball's chance in Hell in turning the Silver & Black around.

 
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Your assumption that both Sanders and Ward are franchise setting QBs, perhaps along the lines of Daniels and Stroud (?) and will turn a team like the Raiders into winner, when the team has so many other key holes to fill, are where we don't see eye to eye.

I also don't think Carroll must find a franchise QB now. Like, this off season, or he's fired. I guess we'll find out in a matter of months!
 
Yes, and also along the lines of Bo Nix. Let's not forget Nix when we're talking about franchise QBs making an immediate impact on the team. Nix gets overshadowed by the incredible performance & team turnaround by Daniels, but still finished 3rd in the ROY honors.

Nix was taken 12th OA - the 2nd highest QB drafted in Bronco history (Cutler was the highest at #11). And Nix, a day 1 starter, joined Cam Newton & Kyler Murray as the only rookie QBs with at least 3700 passing yards & 400 rushing yards. Nix also threw for 29 TD passes - 2nd most for a rookie in NFL history (Herbert threw for 31)


And Broncos hadn't been to the postseason since 2015! When Payton took the job in 2023 he inherited a dumpster fire. Though the team improved significantly his first year, it wasn't until he drafted Nix that the real turnaround occurred with the 10-7 record & postseason appearance.

And Nix did it with really little offensive talent. Sutton was his #1 receiver with Vele - a 7th round pick - his second leading receiver. He had no TE (can you name a Bronco TE without looking it up?). And Payton shuffled RBs around so much trying to find a reliable primary back (Estime, taken in the 4th round, didn't pan out).
 
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I also don't think Carroll must find a franchise QB now. Like, this off season, or he's fired. I guess we'll find out in a matter of months!
You misunderstood my point. I'm not saying that if he doesn't draft either Ward or Sanders he's fired. I'm first saying that he has to show some improvement over last year's embarrassing 4-13 record, right? (Pierce was fired for that losing record - I can't imagine Davis would tell Carroll "Hey Pete, just don't do any worse than Pierce & you can coach another year." Lol). How much improvement Carroll needs to show in his first year would be up to Davis, right?

Secondly, and here's the point we disagree on - I don't think Carroll can win & turn around the team without drafting a franchise QB in either Ward or Sanders. And if he defers to 2026, who knows what top QBs will be available (e.g., Arch Manning is going to play a couple of years at Texas before coming out). If Carroll doesn't draft either Ward or Sanders, and instead goes with one of the rag tag guys he currently has on the depth chart or signs or trades for a veteran FA, then we'll have to wait & see how the 2025 season plays out. Keep in mind that it's a very bad situation Carroll is walking into with one of the worst teams in Raider history. Lol.
 
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