on3m@n@rmy said:
Probably not the Welsh rock band Super Fury Animals.
:lol:
I honestly have no idea though. Good notice on the dates and Foles contract.
In some other news, I tracked down the QB velocity, and in theory arm strength, from the Combine. Here's a copy and paste, editing a few names out:
Will Grier West Virginia 58 (Left) 59 (Right)
Brett Rypien Boise State 59 (Left) 56 (Right)
Clayton Thorson Northwestern 58 (Left) 56 (Right)
Ryan Finley North Carolina State 55 (Left) 52 (Right)
Drew Lock Missouri 54 (Left) 53 (Right)
Daniel Jones Duke 53 (Left) 54 (Right)
Jake Browning Washington 54 (Left) 52 (Right)
Dwayne Haskins Ohio State 52 (Left) 52 (Right)
Kyler Murray Oklahoma did not throw
A couple names stick out.
Will Grier may be this year's Josh Allen. Strong arm (Allen's is stronger) but needs work. There's been increasing talk about him, not rising to the top 5 of picks, but in a positive way. A team looking for a QB to not start week 1, and maybe even sit for a season, is likely to snatch him up in the 2nd round, maybe sooner? We'll see how desperate teams get as the draft approaches.
I was surprised that Drew Lock only threw 54 and 53. Even more surprised that Haskins only threw 52. Generally 55 seems to be the required NFL speed. Having said that, Lamar Jackson only threw 49 and Deshaun Watson only threw 45. Paxton Lynch hit 59 and Bryan Bennett and Logan Thomas both hit 60. Obviously anyone who has seen Watson throw as a pro knows he must be throwing harder than 45. And I don't care if Lynch now throws the ball 65mph, he can't read defenses or throw with accuracy.
As to Murray not throwing, that's usually not an issue if you are a top prospect already. But it's also hurt a couple QBs in the past who didn't throw at the Combine, and hinged everything on their pro day. Cardale Jones, Zach Mettenberger, Matt Barkley, Aaron Murray, Greg McElroy, Jimmy Clausen and Tim Tebow all didn't participate in their years, and it arguably hurt them. However, Matt Ryan, Matt Stafford, Sam Bradford, Andrew Luck, RGIII, Ryan Tannehill, Derek Carr and Teddy Bridgewater didn't participate, and it didn't. But the pattern I see here is the higher you are up the perceived pecking order, the more you can get away with avoiding the combine, and drills like the velocity test. If you're down that perceived list, if there's anything you're masking, avoiding, it's going to more than likely come back on you.
Of course arm strength isn't everything, let alone running drills at the combine, which brings me back to what Mike Martz said were the three things he looked for in a QB prospect. Accuracy, accuracy, and accuracy.
https://www.ourlads.com/story/default/Quarterback-Ball-Velocity-at-NFL-Combine-2008-2017/10243/dh/