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Incredible win for the Seahawks. Great win for Lock with some very impressive throws, and they didn't play it conservative with him. Best game of his entire career. Finally, finally showing he may actually have it to play in this league! Still just 27 years old.
The game winning drive was impressive & the TD pass to Smith-Njigba was a thing of beauty (did you see that big smile on his face as he stared up at sky?). But he's got to play like that more consistently if he wants to be taken seriously as a potential starter in this league.

Recall this is the guy Elway drafted in the high 2nd rd stating that Lock's physical skills reminded him as himself. He had plenty of playing time at Denver to prove himself as a starter (23 starts) but between injuries & poor performance, he was ran out of town after just 3 seasons (9-14, no playoffs). Sadly, he became another QB draft failure by Elway.
 
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This seems to be the season of the QB back ups. With so many starters going down many of the back ups have managed to have had big moments that have effected their teams re the playoffs. They may not have the consistency of the starters but they have shown how effective they can be at times. No doubt some have managed to impress enough to get new contracts and some may have even increased their contract value for next season.

Geno looked excited while Lock seemed to surprise himself, with the expression on his face !
 
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The game winning drive was impressive & the TD pass to Smith-Njigba was a thing of beauty (did you see that big smile on his face as he stared up at sky?). But he's got to play like that more consistently if he wants to be taken seriously as a potential starter in this league.
Exactly. I was impressed by Lock's play, and happy for him, but no one should think he's the next Elway now based off a one game sugar high.

I mean, two weeks ago Zach Wilson looked like Aaron Rodgers would never need to play for the Jets. Completing a staggering 75% of his passes, over 300 yards, 2 TDs, 0 Ints, a passer rating of 117.9 and QBR of 47.2. This against a decent Texans defense. Wow! Sign the guy to a mutli-year deal right now!!! Right? :D ...Fast forward to this past weekend against Miami - a team that is all offense, and Wilson went an atrocious 4/11 for only 26 yards, completing just 36% of his passes. His QBR? 4.1. Probably the lowest for any starter this season on any team, until they pulled him for - wait for it - Trevor Siemian. :anguished:

But teams are desperate in this league for decent QBs. And I mean decent back-up QBs. So the Seahawks may need to pay Lock over $5m next season to stay as their back-up, and teams will sign Siemian too. This is why I posted earlier about how even if Jimmy Garappolo is sitting on the bench for the Raiders, and his career looks like it's maybe on the downside, he can easily "play" another 3+ years if he wants, as long as he doesn't suffer any major injuries. Someone will pay him $5m plus a year to be a vet backup, before he goes into coaching, announcing, or whatever he wants to do. Seattle may be able to draft a QB in rounds 3-6, and hope that guy pans out as a quality back-up they can develop, but that's not like having a proven vet, at all. Teams (and many fans) think it is, but it's often not.

What do some of you Seattle fans think of the possibility of Pete Carroll retiring and Seattle hiring Dan Quinn as HC? Makes sense on paper. Not 100% sure Dan would want the job, but who knows.
 
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Exactly. I was impressed by Lock's play, and happy for him, but no one should think he's the next Elway now based off a one game sugar high.

I mean, two weeks ago Zach Wilson looked like Aaron Rodgers would never need to play for the Jets. Completing a staggering 75% of his passes, over 300 yards, 2 TDs, 0 Ints, a passer rating of 117.9 and QBR of 47.2. This against a decent Texans defense. Wow! Sign the guy to a mutli-year deal right now!!! Right? :D ...Fast forward to this past weekend against Miami - a team that is all offense, and Wilson went an atrocious 4/11 for only 26 yards, completing just 36% of his passes. His QBR? 4.1. Probably the lowest for any starter this season on any team, until they pulled him for - wait for it - Trevor Siemian. :anguished:

But teams are desperate in this league for decent QBs. And I mean decent back-up QBs. So the Seahawks may need to pay Lock over $5m next season to stay as their back-up, and teams will sign Siemian too. This is why I posted earlier about how even if Jimmy Garappolo is sitting on the bench for the Raiders, and his career looks like it's maybe on the downside, he can easily "play" another 3+ years if he wants, as long as he doesn't suffer any major injuries. Someone will pay him $5m plus a year to be a vet backup, before he goes into coaching, announcing, or whatever he wants to do. Seattle may be able to draft a QB in rounds 3-6, and hope that guy pans out as a quality back-up they can develop, but that's not like having a proven vet, at all. Teams (and many fans) think it is, but it's often not.

What do some of you Seattle fans think of the possibility of Pete Carroll retiring and Seattle hiring Dan Quinn as HC? Makes sense on paper. Not 100% sure Dan would want the job, but who knows.
One positive for Jimmy G is that he can start the next training camp with his body well rested and healed. It's all in his hands now but I have never seen him play as bad as he did in his last few games for Vegas. Now or never if he wants to keep getting employed.. Actually his acting performances on his latest commercials were better than his QB play.................there is always Hollywood and ESPN............ESPN could do worse from what I have seen lately.............

I don't see the Cowboys getting any closer to a SB this season so it's possible that McCarthy is gone and Quinn moves on. Wonder if Tomlin or Bill B would ever take on the Cowboys job ? Think plenty of coaches would be wary of going to teams like the Chargers and Vegas. If the Eagles go out of the playoffs early that's going to put a lot more pressure on Sirianni's future at the team you would think. Can't see Pete Carroll retiring just yet, he seems to be having too much fun. Not sure who would want to coach the Panthers. Texans and Browns seem to be in good hands. Not sure if either of the New York teams would make a coaching change. Bears flip coaches pretty often while Washington looks like a lock for a new coach and it seems, another name change !
 
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Exactly. I was impressed by Lock's play, and happy for him, but no one should think he's the next Elway now based off a one game sugar high.

I mean, two weeks ago Zach Wilson looked like Aaron Rodgers would never need to play for the Jets. Completing a staggering 75% of his passes, over 300 yards, 2 TDs, 0 Ints, a passer rating of 117.9 and QBR of 47.2. This against a decent Texans defense. Wow! Sign the guy to a mutli-year deal right now!!! Right? :D ...Fast forward to this past weekend against Miami - a team that is all offense, and Wilson went an atrocious 4/11 for only 26 yards, completing just 36% of his passes. His QBR? 4.1. Probably the lowest for any starter this season on any team, until they pulled him for - wait for it - Trevor Siemian. :anguished:

But teams are desperate in this league for decent QBs. And I mean decent back-up QBs. So the Seahawks may need to pay Lock over $5m next season to stay as their back-up, and teams will sign Siemian too. This is why I posted earlier about how even if Jimmy Garappolo is sitting on the bench for the Raiders, and his career looks like it's maybe on the downside, he can easily "play" another 3+ years if he wants, as long as he doesn't suffer any major injuries. Someone will pay him $5m plus a year to be a vet backup, before he goes into coaching, announcing, or whatever he wants to do. Seattle may be able to draft a QB in rounds 3-6, and hope that guy pans out as a quality back-up they can develop, but that's not like having a proven vet, at all. Teams (and many fans) think it is, but it's often not.

What do some of you Seattle fans think of the possibility of Pete Carroll retiring and Seattle hiring Dan Quinn as HC? Makes sense on paper. Not 100% sure Dan would want the job, but who knows.
I think that Quinn is in his best place, DC.
 
Exactly. I was impressed by Lock's play, and happy for him, but no one should think he's the next Elway now based off a one game sugar high.

I mean, two weeks ago Zach Wilson looked like Aaron Rodgers would never need to play for the Jets. Completing a staggering 75% of his passes, over 300 yards, 2 TDs, 0 Ints, a passer rating of 117.9 and QBR of 47.2. This against a decent Texans defense. Wow! Sign the guy to a mutli-year deal right now!!! Right? :D ...Fast forward to this past weekend against Miami - a team that is all offense, and Wilson went an atrocious 4/11 for only 26 yards, completing just 36% of his passes. His QBR? 4.1. Probably the lowest for any starter this season on any team, until they pulled him for - wait for it - Trevor Siemian. :anguished:

But teams are desperate in this league for decent QBs. And I mean decent back-up QBs. So the Seahawks may need to pay Lock over $5m next season to stay as their back-up, and teams will sign Siemian too. This is why I posted earlier about how even if Jimmy Garappolo is sitting on the bench for the Raiders, and his career looks like it's maybe on the downside, he can easily "play" another 3+ years if he wants, as long as he doesn't suffer any major injuries. Someone will pay him $5m plus a year to be a vet backup, before he goes into coaching, announcing, or whatever he wants to do. Seattle may be able to draft a QB in rounds 3-6, and hope that guy pans out as a quality back-up they can develop, but that's not like having a proven vet, at all. Teams (and many fans) think it is, but it's often not.

What do some of you Seattle fans think of the possibility of Pete Carroll retiring and Seattle hiring Dan Quinn as HC? Makes sense on paper. Not 100% sure Dan would want the job, but who knows.
Agree with most of what you've said.
Dan Quinn could be good but, like most serious politicians the staff that accompanies him would be key.

As for Seattle's win: 2 things happened. 1. Metcalf showed up, took hard hits and held on to the ball like glue. 'Bout time. 2. Lock threw some great passes but the receivers made them succeed (don't ever forget Lockett) and the Oline gave him enough time to do something. I guess that's a 3rd thing.

They'll need much more magic to make playoffs, though.
 
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Agree with most of what you've said.
Dan Quinn could be good but, like most serious politicians the staff that accompanies him would be key.

As for Seattle's win: 2 things happened. 1. Metcalf showed up, took hard hits and held on to the ball like glue. 'Bout time. 2. Lock threw some great passes but the receivers made them succeed (don't ever forget Lockett) and the Oline gave him enough time to do something. I guess that's a 3rd thing.

They'll need much more magic to make playoffs, though.

If they win out they are almost certainly making the playoffs. If they lose 1, it’s gonna be harder, but not impossible. Anything less than that and it’s see you next season.

All 3 teams they’re gonna face are certainly easier than the last 3, the Titans and Steelers are underperforming and the Cardinals are in rebuild mode. That said, nothing is a guarantee.
 
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Agree with most of what you've said.
Dan Quinn could be good but, like most serious politicians the staff that accompanies him would be key.

As for Seattle's win: 2 things happened. 1. Metcalf showed up, took hard hits and held on to the ball like glue. 'Bout time. 2. Lock threw some great passes but the receivers made them succeed (don't ever forget Lockett) and the Oline gave him enough time to do something. I guess that's a 3rd thing.

They'll need much more magic to make playoffs, though.
Metcalf was gigantic on that final drive—all his catches were tough ones and with the game on the line. I also saw a clip of him (he was on the other side of the field) when Smith-N caught the winning TD: Metcalf jumped for joy, really pumped, which was great to see.
 
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That last interception by Love for the Seahawks was also highlight reel impressive.

If I were interviewing for the Panthers, Chargers or even Raiders HC jobs I'd definitely be asking some hard questions testing the owner's patience. Mark Davis seems like he wants to win long term, but is tired of losing. But the other two I'd be very skeptical of them tolerating any kind of rebuild. Tepper would financially pay for it, but he completely screwed the team's future with their trades and signings the last two years and seems 100% hands on. I'm not sure how much Spanos wants to pay in LA. Actually, Tepper I wouldn't even bother interviewing with. I wouldn't work for that guy at all if I had any sort of other financially viable job available. He seems like the worst kind of corporate America CEO shareholder type who expects instant high returns, constantly.

Washington seems like a very good place to land for any coach. You have a diverse ownership group. Josh Harris (chair/owner) seems quite reasonable. He's worth about $8b, has experience owning the 76ers and NJ Generals. The other owners also tally up another $3-4b net worth. So there is plenty of cash there. Their cap situation isn't bad, they have some good players and draft picks coming up. Plus they are very likely to get a new stadium in the next 3 years.

Matt Eberflus will very likely be fired in Chicago. Not as great of business as Washington, but great chance to rebuild with some major draft picks.

50% chance both Arthur Smith in Atlanta, and Mike Vrabel in Tennessee get fired. Though Arthur Blank in Atlanta said he has no intention to fire Smith and likes him, that can very well change soon, as we've seen with many teams.

I posted before I think Belicheck is either happily stripped of GM duties, or he just moves on. If he does, then it's 95% likely Jerod Mayo is simply promoted to HC in New England. He's their de facto DC, has deep history with the team, is a smart guy, and both Kraft's have spoken highly of him.
One positive for Jimmy G is that he can start the next training camp with his body well rested and healed. It's all in his hands now but I have never seen him play as bad as he did in his last few games for Vegas.
Considering how much better the team is playing, trying, with Antonio Pierce as HC than with McDaniels, I think a much larger blame can be placed at McDaniels feet than Garappolo.
Washington looks like a lock for a new coach and it seems, another name change !
Ron Rivera will be fine, whatever he wants to do. The name change however I welcome. While I think Redskins is a terrible name they should never go back to, if I were the owner I'd definitely bring back a Native American theme. They could call them any number of things. Nationals (same as baseball theme, but works for Native American theme too!), Red Tails, Red Clouds, Warriors, Braves, etc. If not a Native American name, I think the Hogs would be fantastic. Great history, and it would make for a good mascot, fan costumes, and more. Imagine if before each game they let a pig run loose out on the field before the team. Fans would love it! Plus, when they are on the road opposing team's tailgate parties could serve up pork chops, ham sandwiches, bacon burgers, etc. Great fun!
I think that Quinn is in his best place, DC.
Keep in mind his players loved him in Atlanta. He just blew that Super Bowl (but so did Shanahan). Let's also credit Tom Brady though. His last season he also started out bad there. But I recall many players were upset with his being fired.
 
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Please refrain from using the phrase “blown Super Bowl” in hearing range of Seahawks fans ;)
Traumatized Falcons fans don't even assign blame anymore, they just turn white and shake their heads. I have never seen two halves of football quite like that. The owners came down early to celebrate the win and looked like home invasion victims by the end.
 
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I mean, two weeks ago Zach Wilson looked like Aaron Rodgers would never need to play for the Jets. Completing a staggering 75% of his passes, over 300 yards, 2 TDs, 0 Ints, a passer rating of 117.9 and QBR of 47.2. This against a decent Texans defense. Wow! Sign the guy to a mutli-year deal right now!!! Right? :D ...Fast forward to this past weekend against Miami - a team that is all offense, and Wilson went an atrocious 4/11 for only 26 yards, completing just 36% of his passes. His QBR? 4.1. Probably the lowest for any starter this season on any team, until they pulled him for - wait for it - Trevor Siemian. :anguished:
It looks like Zach sustained a head injury early in the game & didn't tell the coaching staff until late in the 2nd quarter. He reported blurred vision & problems with depth perception which probably accounted for those poor stats.

It seems we're seeing some of these younger QBs trying to toughen it out & not tell the coaching/medical staff they're suffering symptoms from a concussion. We saw that with Lawrence when he got decked in the Baltimore game & didn't take himself out of the game. Now he's in the protocol & questionable for this Sunday's game.

IDK what these young QBs are thinking trying to be a "macho man" & stay in the game after sustaining a concussion. This is not a joint injury where they can throw some tape on it, take a pain med & continue to play. These are head injuries that can have serious ramifications that could affect the player's long-term health & well-being.

I hope both Lawrence & Wilson can recover & be cleared to play this weekend. But they've got to use better judgment & not be apprehensive to remove themselves from the game when sustaining any kind of a head injury.

 
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It looks like Zach sustained a head injury early in the game & didn't tell the coaching staff until late in the 2nd quarter. He reported blurred vision & problems with depth perception which probably accounted for those poor stats.

It seems we're seeing sone of these younger QBs trying to toughen it out & not tell the coaching/medical staff they're suffering symptoms from a concussion. We saw that with Lawrence when he got decked in the Baltimore game & didn't take himself out of the game. Now he's in the protocol & questionable for this Sunday's game.

IDK what these young QBs are thinking trying to be a "macho man" & stay in the game after sustaining a concussion. This is not a joint injury where they can throw some tape on it, take a pain med & continue to play. These are head injuries that can have serious ramifications that could affect the player's long-term health & well-being.

I hope both Lawrence & Wilson can recover & be cleared to play this weekend. But they've got use better judgment & not be apprehensive to remove themselves from the game when sustaining any kind of a head injury.

I agree with you—but if they’ve just been clocked they are probably not thinking very clearly right then. That’s part of the reason for the protocol is to take the decision away from them (the other reason being the NFL trying to try to whitewash the concussion problem).
It’s not that hard to identify when it could be a concussion risk: when you see a player shake their head (trying to “shake the cobwebs out”).
 
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That shaking the head thing only works in pro wrestling. :smile:
Please refrain from using the phrase “blown Super Bowl” in hearing range of Seahawks fans ;)
That one is on Russ and Pete. However it's also one of the most head's up plays from a DB in history by Malcom Butler, who was a nickel/dime corner, amazingly enough.
It looks like Zach sustained a head injury early in the game & didn't tell the coaching staff until late in the 2nd quarter. He reported blurred vision & problems with depth perception which probably accounted for those poor stats.

It seems we're seeing sone of these younger QBs trying to toughen it out & not tell the coaching/medical staff they're suffering symptoms from a concussion.
Same with Brock Purdy in the game against Minnesota. I wrote about this before. His passer rating before/after his likely concussion went from 110 to 40, throwing two bad picks in the 4Q of that game.

I did not know that about Zach, and will give him a pass on this game.
 
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Is Flacco back? He shaved his beard to look younger & he's ready to guide the Browns to the promised land. Lol

 
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50% chance both Arthur Smith in Atlanta, and Mike Vrabel in Tennessee get fired.
I'd be really surprised if Vrabel isn't canned at the end of the season. The Titans are sitting in the cellar of a lousy division at 5-9 already eliminated from any playoff possibilities.

Though he's got a decent overall coaching record with the club at 53-43 (.552) & some division titles, he's been terrible the last 2 seasons (7-10 last season & only 5 wins so far as this season winds down). And even when the Titans won back to back division titles in 2020/21, they were one & done in the playoffs.

I could see Vrabel asking for one more year to have a full season with Levis. However, the general mindset with most owners these days is "what have you done for me lately?" And certainly in last year's & this season, he hasn't done anything but regress. Lol

 
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Rams dominated the Saints until late in the game. I can see the Rams possibly knocking out the Cowboys or Eagles in the playoffs. They are looking much better than early in the season especially on offense. Also would have beat the Ravens if it wasn't for that miraculous kick return. I think they are to the NFC in the playoffs as the Bills are to the AFC. They also have the tiebreaker against the Hawks. Saints are probably out of it now. If the 49ers beat the Ravens, the last game against the Rams won't matter much unless they lose to Washington which would be a shock. So the formula for the Rams at the moment looks good re making the playoffs.
 
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I agree. I can easily see the Rams knocking off whichever team wins the NFC South. But also the Cowboys, or Eagles. Going into SF or Detroit and winning will be a much bigger task though. I have to also admit, Tampa is sneaky. They have had games where they look like they could cause someone trouble. But also lost too many games.

Classic Derek Carr game. He threw some very nice passes, then didn't convert a few key times either just out of FG range or failed to convert 4th downs, spoiling drives. He also couldn't get his team into the red zone or end zone to keep them within reach. Then when the game was out of reach threw some nice passes to pad his stats and show up on highlight reels. Another season just missing out for him and his team. Another what if season. I saw this year after year after year for the Raiders. Same player, different jersey. Yet he, his agent, his family, his fans, got the Saints thinking he was worth a $150m contract. He's shown potential his entire career, and he always will.
 
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I agree. I can easily see the Rams knocking off whichever team wins the NFC South. But also the Cowboys, or Eagles. Going into SF or Detroit and winning will be a much bigger task though. I have to also admit, Tampa is sneaky. They have had games where they look like they could cause someone trouble. But also lost too many games.

Classic Derek Carr game. He threw some very nice passes, then didn't convert a few key times either just out of FG range or failed to convert 4th downs, spoiling drives. He also couldn't get his team into the red zone or end zone to keep them within reach. Then when the game was out of reach threw some nice passes to pad his stats and show up on highlight reels. Another season just missing out for him and his team. Another what if season. I saw this year after year after year for the Raiders. Same player, different jersey. Yet he, his agent, his family, his fans, got the Saints thinking he was worth a $150m contract. He's shown potential his entire career, and he always will.
Yes the Buccs look a bit better than last season. The WRs are playing better and Mayfield has been a surprise to many. They didn't get embarrassed against the 49ers like the Eagles and Cowboys.

Carr is frustrating to watch like Jimmy G. They can both look really good but more often than not they rarely play a consistently good game.

Stafford is looking much better than last season where he had many injury issues and now has a more dynamic offense with Kupp injury free again plus Nucua, and Williams at RB. Robinson also had a nice game against the Saints.