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I'll have to check out some of those sports shows (I use to watch a lot of them in the past but not anymore because it's become a clown show with all the ad nuseam fighting & hostilities done for ratings).

Throwing for over 4200 yds with a league-leading Y/A (9.6) & Rtg (113) would be far from just being a "game manager," I would think? Sure, he's got some great talent on O, but so does about a dozen other QBs in the league. Lol
 
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I befriended a guy years ago while living in NYC, he invited me to a party, bring my bike and stay in Greenwich for a couple of days....
Insane amount of money in the "estates" there. Insane. Multi-billionaire class. The rest of CT doesn't have that kind of money, though there are indeed pockets of wealth for sure. Unfortunately, as of a couple years ago CT also had one of the worst ratios of income inequality in the country.
Honestly I hope Niners win just so Purdy can shut all of his haters and detractors up.
I don't think even that will do it with some people.
Who are all these haters & detractors?
They are all over the place. Shannon Sharpe called him a game manager, so did Cam Newton. Ben Maller at Fox Sports talked about how lucky Purdy is. That's just a small sample.

Here's Amy Trask, who was president of the Raiders until Gruden had her ousted. She said Purdy was the worst QB entering the playoffs (she has since flip flopped, giving him credit).


Kirk Cousins will be almost 36 at the start of the season, Brock Purdy is just 24. While Brock Purdy is 4-1 in the playoffs (the one loss he was injured early and could barely play), Cousins is an unimpressive 1-3.
 
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Joe Montana was a game manager...

The talking heads are listening to themselves too much.

Brock is a solid QB1. Better than Cousins.
So many people are not to high on the Kool-aid..Joe Montana is a legendary great quarterback.. Purdy is off to a solid start, Cousins is a consistent performer, name will fade, as his results blend more into average.
 
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If you want to see games that were perfectly managed as a QB? Here are some stats:

  • 23/41 262 yards, 1 TD, 0 int
  • 17/23, 215 yards, 2 TD, 0 int
  • 30/39, 241 yards, 1 TD, 0 int

Nothing special. Good, pedestrian numbers. Nothing stands out. No game over 300 yards. A couple TDs, but not much there. No interceptions, which is a good key to a game manager. Otherwise, just a ho-hum group of games. Right?

Those games were:

Patrick Mahomes vs. Miami
Patrick Mahomes vs. Buffalo
Patrick Mahomes vs. Baltimore
 
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That is my point. :)
Don't know if you, like me want to reach into the television and slap one or more of the talking heads that describe almost every player as " one of the best_________(name the position) in the NFL " . yes everyone in the NFL is great but within the few thousand available jobs there are some obviously better than current or past players.
I am cool with praise, but the other day when someone was being compared to Walter Payton and Barry Sanders, felt a little sick to my stomach, not only for me, but for some other viewers that believe the comparison..
 
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...he other day when someone was being compared to Walter Payton and Barry Sanders...
Might as well compare Tyreek Hill to Jerry Rice. Or Fred Warner to Jack Lambert. Lamar Jackson to Bobby Douglass. Or Scott Norwood to Tyler Bass... wait, that one fits. :sweatsmile:

This is why I don't like Cris Collinsworth who spews stuff like this. Tony Romo is approaching this level. He started out good analyzing and predicting plays, now he's found talking about himself, his Collinsworth-like asinine opinions, gets attention too.
 
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If you want to see games that were perfectly managed as a QB? Here are some stats:

  • 23/41 262 yards, 1 TD, 0 int
  • 17/23, 215 yards, 2 TD, 0 int
  • 30/39, 241 yards, 1 TD, 0 int
Nothing special. Good, pedestrian numbers. Nothing stands out. No game over 300 yards. A couple TDs, but not much there. No interceptions, which is a good key to a game manager. Otherwise, just a ho-hum group of games. Right?

Those games were:

Patrick Mahomes vs. Miami
Patrick Mahomes vs. Buffalo
Patrick Mahomes vs. Baltimore
Exactly, they’ve been using the run game to great effect and their defense is elite right now. But Chiefs offense is still talked about like it’s the 2018-2021 explosive offense when they’ve only shown that against poor defenses. They’re going to run the ball a lot and there’s going to be some big throws to Kelce, Rice, or MVS. Otherwise it’ll be a “game manager” type game. Only way they get out of it is if Niners go up by 2 scores first. If I was Niners I’d take the ball first and go have a long drive with a touchdown. Set the course of the game and don’t abandon the run. It’s crazy to me how Ravens and Dolphins didn’t even try establishing it while Bills gave up on it. Niners plus is they can run and pass effects from all of their packages so aren’t type cast and Purdy has been getting some big runs.
 
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So many people are not to high on the Kool-aid..Joe Montana is a legendary great quarterback.. Purdy is off to a solid start, Cousins is a consistent performer, name will fade, as his results blend more into average.
C'mon man...are you serious about Cousins? Consistent performer? Lol. He's a loser!

Go look at his playoff record: 1-3 in basically eight full-seasons that he's started in this league (not counting his injury seasons, otherwise he's a 11 yr veteran). The lone playoff win was against NO in the 2019 WC round but then he gets smoked by SF in the divisional round. Lol

I guess one could argue that since he was only a 4th rounder not much was expected of him. However, once these lower-round draft picks become franchise starters - consequently given big contracts (Cousins is a top 15 in salary) - they need to put their money where their mouth is & win in postseason.

Too bad the guy doesn't win more in postseason & this would have a lot more meaning. LOL

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/-KaR2mmifk0?si=Fx8hjUnMRZkFhqOP
 
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Exactly, they’ve been using the run game to great effect and their defense is elite right now. But Chiefs offense is still talked about like it’s the 2018-2021 explosive offense when they’ve only shown that against poor defenses. They’re going to run the ball a lot and there’s going to be some big throws to Kelce, Rice, or MVS. Otherwise it’ll be a “game manager” type game. Only way they get out of it is if Niners go up by 2 scores first. If I was Niners I’d take the ball first and go have a long drive with a touchdown. Set the course of the game and don’t abandon the run. It’s crazy to me how Ravens and Dolphins didn’t even try establishing it while Bills gave up on it. Niners plus is they can run and pass effects from all of their packages so aren’t type cast and Purdy has been getting some big runs.
Shanahan has been more about a balanced attack this season. The run heavy approach he used now and then in the past against targeted defenses hasn't been used. The two back up RBs Mason and Mitchell have hardly played as it's been all CMC. Something tells me that after the success that the Raiders and others had against Kansas this season, that is about to change. It will also take some pressure off Purdy as the Chiefs also blitz quite a lot. Ravens played a bad game play call wise and discipline wise and the Chiefs still only scored 17 points. Can't see any way in the world 17 points will win this game.

Think they will move CMC around more and will use Mitchell in the run game as well. I expect Deebo and Aiyuk to have a harder time against this defense, not that one of them can't create problems especially Deebo if the tackling gets a bit spotty. The 49ers defense was exposed in the previous two games. They have to limit Pacheco the same way they limited Jones and the Lions RBs in the second halves of those games but similar slow starts in the first half would be costly to their chances.
 
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If you want to see games that were perfectly managed as a QB? Here are some stats:

  • 23/41 262 yards, 1 TD, 0 int
  • 17/23, 215 yards, 2 TD, 0 int
  • 30/39, 241 yards, 1 TD, 0 int

Nothing special. Good, pedestrian numbers. Nothing stands out. No game over 300 yards. A couple TDs, but not much there. No interceptions, which is a good key to a game manager. Otherwise, just a ho-hum group of games. Right?

Those games were:

Patrick Mahomes vs. Miami
Patrick Mahomes vs. Buffalo
Patrick Mahomes vs. Baltimore
Those stats from the Miami are nothing short of remarkable considering the sub-0 Artic weather that game.

The other aspect of Mahomes is he gives you exceptional scrambling ability to run effectively when the pocket breaks down - this is part of what I call a playmaker - especially when the going gets tough with the pass rush.

2 - 41 28L vs Miami
6 - 19 24L vs Buf (total yardage - sacks)
6 - 15 11L vs Baltimore

14 - 75

If I recall correctly those long runs were in 2nd/3rd & long situations where he took off for 1st down yardage keeping the drive alive.

I think the most dangerous QB type in the league right now is the prolific passer, football smarts and the ability to scramble & run.
 
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Those stats from the Miami are nothing short of remarkable considering the sub-0 Artic weather that game.
But that was also against the Dolphins third and fourth stringers that haven’t really played together too, just like the Bills. What was more remarkable was the receivers not dropping the ball like before with the super cold weather.
 
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True...but the QB has to get the ball to the receivers in order for them to catch it. In temperatures like that your shoulder & elbow is going to start tightening up, grip on the ball is going to be difficult, throwing motion is going to be uncomfortable, etc.
 
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Only way they get out of it is if Niners go up by 2 scores first. If I was Niners I’d take the ball first and go have a long drive with a touchdown. Set the course of the game and don’t abandon the run. It’s crazy to me how Ravens and Dolphins didn’t even try establishing it while Bills gave up on it.
Bills I somewhat get, because they were facing a ticking clock and Allen was somewhat moving the ball. Miami was never going to win that game. They had so many hurt players, and they were human popsicles before the first kickoff. The Ravens however have no excuse. They were never far behind, and had the top running offense in the NFL coming into the game. The team was way too cocky, and I think Harbaugh thought Lamar would make big throws and get them back in it, but he borderline choked. Actually, that last interception into triple coverage was a total botch. Few QBs in the NFL would have made that same mistake.

I'm still going to give KC credit in all three wins, especially the win over Baltimore. Solid play, zero mistakes, better coaching on both sides of the ball.
Something tells me that after the success that the Raiders and others had against Kansas this season, that is about to change.
Keep in mind not only were the Raiders a run-first team, they also had a very stiff, very physical defense. Especially in the 2nd half of the season. They completely took on the personality of their coach. Very old-school Raiders, smash-mouth football. I don't see the 49ers playing the same type of game on defense, no matter what they try.
 
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C'mon man...are you serious about Cousins? Consistent performer? Lol. He's a loser!
A loser? Really? Jamarcus Russell was a loser. Cousins reminds me of Trent Green, Carson Palmer, Duante Culpepper. Great arms, make some impressive throws, wins a few games...never gets the team to, or far in the playoffs. Every year signs another big contract, and every year the same result. Good QB? Sure. Going to take you deep in the playoffs? Highly unlikely. Worth $35m a year? Of course not!

The oddity of Cousins is he fell in that draft, and who he fell to. Some people thought he would go as high as the 2nd round, but he fell to Washington in the 4th - the same year they drafted RG3. There he sat, played in a mix of games over the next couple years, before finally starting. And he's been the same QB ever since. Some Raiders fans want him, but I ask why? He's not too different than Aiden O'Connell. Except Aiden is 24, while Cousins is 35, and Aiden makes $1.1m a year.

Who is intimidated by Mike Vrabel? I wonder how these people feel about Dan Campbell, or Antonio Pierce? Two other big dudes, ex-players, with much more intense personalities!
Don't mind me, I'll just be here for the half-time show.
Oh look, a sneak peak at next year's Madden for PS5!
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C'mon man...are you serious about Cousins? Consistent performer? Lol. He's a loser!

Go look at his playoff record: 1-3 in basically eight full-seasons that he's started in this league (not counting his injury seasons, otherwise he's a 11 yr veteran). The lone playoff win was against NO in the 2019 WC round but then he gets smoked by SF in the divisional round. Lol

I guess one could argue that since he was only a 4th rounder not much was expected of him. However, once these lower-round draft picks become franchise starters - consequently given big contracts (Cousins is a top 15 in salary) - they need to put their money where their mouth is & win in postseason.

Too bad the guy doesn't win more in postseason & this would have a lot more meaning. LOL

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/-KaR2mmifk0?si=Fx8hjUnMRZkFhqOP
Wow! Was I wrong I dismissed Cousins, checked his Wikipedia page and he is actually a good player.. above average. Hardly a loser..
Kinda like saying Trent Dilfer is a loser.. Record says otherwise..
My metric for not being a loser is making it to the NFL
Next parameter, multiple years in the league
And the widely accepted definition of success, playoffs, Super Bowl win or appearance
 
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