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[movingtarget]

Had a feeling it could be a trap game for the Rams if the 49ers could dominate possession early and get a lead which they did. A few vital mistakes from the Rams kicker helped, Missed kick, blocked kick, penalty on the kickoff. Not good. Gritty win for the 49ers with a B team on offense and no Bosa, they will take that any day of the week Mac Jones was really good and took a lot of hits. Maybe the best game Bourne has ever played at WR. CMC was all over the field as usual. 10 days to re-group for the Buccs. Hope they have a healthy QB !

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

I actually think it's in Sanders best interest to sit, for now. There's no question he has a lot to learn and work on, and tossing him to the wolves would likely be as bad of result as all the other "failed" QB's in recent years have run into. At some point he's going to need to get snaps on the field. And maybe he can get some of that, if only in garbage time, as the season goes on. But his best chance, I think, is to just learn as much as he can right now, absorb as much as he can. Maybe if he (and Dillon?) play well enough this year, with two first round draft picks next season the Browns can draft for the OL and offensive playmakers and help set him up for potential success there.

Even at 1-3 the Browns aren't out of it in that division. The Steelers are overachieving at 3-1. Burrow is likely out for the season for the Bengals, who are a mess. And Baltimore's defense is the worst in the NFL right now (granted, tough schedule, but they looked bad against Detroit, and worse against KC) as they sit at 1-3. If you look at the Browns schedule, they have a handful of potentially winnable games coming up in a few weeks: Miami, NE, Jets, Raiders, Titans, Bears. And they close out the season at Cincy. It's maybe possible that Gabriel or Shedeur come out of the season looking like a player the team might be able to build upon under a cheap rookie contract.

 

[Nomad]

Niners HC Kyle Shanahan on Mac Jones' gutsy 342-yd, 2 TD night: ‘He played his a-- off’

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Can't say the dude isn't tough. Here is getting carried off the field two years ago in a loss to Baltimore after he suffered a grade 3 (worst level) high ankle sprain.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Bruce Arians calls it like it is with Shedeur and the hype:

 

[Nomad]

Can't say the dude isn't tough. Here is getting carried off the field two years ago in a loss to Baltimore after he suffered a grade 3 (worst level) high ankle sprain.

He's tougher than I ever thought - did you see the bullseye hit on him by 260 lb Byron Young? The way Jones grabbed his bad knee in agony, I thought he definitely further aggravated his PCL injury or even damaged some other structures in the knee. It looked bad & I thought for sure he was done:

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/9difWnNBPpA?si=KRX7EYD6_OPFiNG9

Here he is after another hit looking like hell with his pants falling down & all. He's about ready to collapse as he walks off the field in pain. This is the kind of toughness that will gain him huge respect from his teammates. I wonder what Rex Ryan has to say now? Lol

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/6BaX7m0Vfnk?si=c1X0Ladkvp-ubOyc

 

[movingtarget]

He's tougher than I ever thought - did you see the bullseye hit on him by 260 lb Byron Young? The way Jones grabbed his bad knee in agony, I thought he definitely further aggravated his PCL injury or even damaged some other structures in the knee. It looked bad & I thought for sure he was done:

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/9difWnNBPpA?si=KRX7EYD6_OPFiNG9

Here he is after another hit looking like hell with his pants falling down & all. He's about ready to collapse as he walks off the field in pain. This is the kind of toughness that will gain him huge respect from his teammates. I wonder what Rex Ryan has to say now? Lol

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/6BaX7m0Vfnk?si=c1X0Ladkvp-ubOyc

He was cramping up badly towards the end of the game in his legs and right arm. He was eating a lot of bananas to get some potassium in his system. He also should have had a least two roughing penalties especially the one where the defender basically belly flopped on top of him. Vinovich is a terrible referee and he's always is bad news in 49ers games it seems, including the 2019 SB.

 

[Unchained]

Bruce Arians calls it like it is with Shedeur and the hype:

I think that there is a certain sadness around traditional football economics and proven history. Most of it is not aging well, these young players are paid before they do anything, paid before they prove anything. Tens of millions of people are interested in them, their opinions and personalities, brands before they really have an NFL resume . You see guys with traditional thinking asking out loud, why would anyone care what 3 string quarterback has to say..old guys just trying to make sense of something that never happened before. Probably hundreds of 3rd string bench warming QBs that saw no action at home shaking their heads at all the attention paid to Sanders who has accomplished nothing measurable.

 

[SHAD0W93]

@movingtarget I don’t remeber if you already shared or the full interview but I agree with what was said. Quarterbacks are started too soon and then jettisoned at any hiccup before they could have reached their potential. Even Hurts gets hate and he’s had a new offensive coordinator every year I think. Or as we talked about Jones having change of coordinators and then getting non offensive ones for a year. Darnold last year, Baker with his renaissance.

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/0dRxT7W1I9A?si=ywgdcZvejrWwxJ-9

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Brady is of course right, but today's football teams are run like corporations. This does make one wonder though, who does Brady like in the NCAA, and what is his plan for the Raiders? They drafted Cam Miller, who put up huge numbers in college as a dual threat, at...North Dakota State. Brady reportedly liked the guy. In the preseason Cam had one excellent game, and another where he looked like a total rookie, and they pushed him to the practice squad/emergency QB. He can't really be the future QB of the Raiders, can he?

Vinovich is a terrible referee and he's always is bad news in 49ers games it seems, including the 2019 SB.

You mean Tim Conway?

 

[Nomad]

That's a great question on Cam Miller - where does he stand in the Raider's organization? Brady not only liked him but seemed to endorse him as the future franchise guy? Sadly, Miller couldn't even make the roster being designated to the practice squad (out of the 13 QBs drafted this year, Miller & Kyle McCord are the only two that didn't make rosters).

So what does Brady see in Miller that has him all excited? The scouting reports haven't been very favorable - all collectively agree that Miller doesn't project to be a starting-caliber NFL QB with his lack of elite traits.

Here's a synopsis of where this year's drafted QBs ended:

2025 NFL Draft: Here's where all the QBs ended up, from Cam Ward to Quinn Ewers

Fourteen quarterbacks (well, maybe 13 — you'll see) are off the board in this year's draft.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[Nomad]

He was eating a lot of bananas to get some potassium in his system.

 

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/TsOqYJPOtdg?si=h1pZSrh5wv1uf1kC

Sales in bananas should go up this week? Lol

 

[movingtarget]

@movingtarget I don’t remeber if you already shared or the full interview but I agree with what was said. Quarterbacks are started too soon and then jettisoned at any hiccup before they could have reached their potential. Even Hurts gets hate and he’s had a new offensive coordinator every year I think. Or as we talked about Jones having change of coordinators and then getting non offensive ones for a year. Darnold last year, Baker with his renaissance.

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/0dRxT7W1I9A?si=ywgdcZvejrWwxJ-9

Agree with that. Shanahan proved to be good for Darnold and Darnold said as much last year. Geno finally got his shot at Seattle before moving on, Baker has turned his career around. Lawrence has showed some improvement but the Jags defense is their strength at the moment I wonder if Wilson and Fields can find the next level as well. Foles was never seen as top level but at the Eagles, they wouldn't have won the SB without him that year. But that kind of backfired later when they dumped Foles kept Wentz and then dumped Wentz for Hurts and the delay cost Pederson his job and look what Hurts has evolved into. Sometimes immediate success for young QB's nosedives later. Jones was a victim of coaching mostly, Stroud has had some WR issues and a poor O line. Purdy looked great in his first year and a half but since then he has regressed a little and his o line and run game is also worse. Burrow has had the ongoing turf toe issues and a GM who seems a bit clueless with his team building.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

That's a great question on Cam Miller - where does he stand in the Raider's organization?

No clue. Practice squad is the only answer I have. One preseason game he looked ready for the NFL and outplayed Aiden O'Connell. The next preseason game he looked below average. Someone could say, "wasn't that Shedeur Sanders preseason as well? And the Browns kept him on the roster." The Raiders then traded for Kenny Pickett. Maybe Brady (Carroll, Kelly, Spytek) see something in him we don't? So I have no idea what the Raiders are thinking, hoping, planning with Cam Miller.

Foles was never seen as top level but at the Eagles, they wouldn't have won the SB without him that year.

That's a damn good question. According to Peter King when he met with Wentz around the time the Eagles were done with him, Wentz believes not only would they have won the SB if he hadn't got hurt, Wentz felt like the statue outside Lincoln stadium of Foles and Pederson should have been him! Neither Wentz, nor Foles however ever again played the way they did that season. Only in spurts. But I've never seen Wentz play clutch the way Foles did that playoffs, and SB. Nick threw for over 370 yards, 3 TDs and 0 Ints in that game.

Small factoid. That was the Super Bowl where Belicheck (and Matt Patricia) benched CB Malcom Butler. They didn't just tell him he wasn't starting. They didn't just tell him he'd miss the first series. Or the first quarter. They made him dress for the game, and benched him for the entire game, when they badly could have used him, as Foles picked their secondary apart.

Carson Wentz may have a big ego, but it's dwarfed by Belicheck's.

As a side note, I'm sure you guys heard about Mark Sanchez. I don't even know what to think other than what's in the news. He was becoming a good announcer, and likely just threw that career away.

 

[movingtarget]

Sanchez incident sounds like a domestic fueled by alcohol.

Never liked his commentary much but he's improving. Greg Olsen is better than he used to be. Can barely listen to Collinsworth now. Haven't heard enough of Brady to form an opinion. Think I liked Romo more when he was new on the scene. Not so much now.

 

[Nomad]

What a mess - Sanchez has been charged with 3 alleged misdemeanor crimes for causing the altercation. The other guy hasn't been charged & police list him as the victim. This is insane - what is Sanchez doing out drinking late on the weekend of the game? Shouldn't he be in his hotel room preparing for the game? If these charges are upheld & it's concluded that he was the aggressor starting the altercation, I don't feel one bit sorry for him & FOX should boot him. FFS, he a family man & in the public eye as a color commentator for the network!

Mark Sanchez arrested in connection with battery, public intoxication after being stabbed in Indianapolis

Fox Sports, for whom Sanchez works as a broadcaster, said he was injured during an incident Saturday.

www.nytimes.com

 

[movingtarget]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6Al19Aca0Q

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Games to talk about:

MIN@CLE - Gabriel starts for the Browns in London. JJ still out for Vikings. Cheerio!
DEN@PHI - Is this a trap game for the Eagles?
HOU@BAL - The loser here is virtually out of the playoffs at 1-4.
TB@SEA - Both teams are 3-1. Both have looked surprisingly good at times.
WAS@LAC - Jayden Daniels back for the Commanders. Should be a good game.
NYG@NO - Rattler currently at 0-10 to start his career. If he loses again, he'll tie Troy Aikman who started his career 0-11. The record holder? DeShone Kizer, at 0-15.
DAL@NYJ - Injury report for both teams looks like a metropolis hospital patient list.
NE@BUF - See Denver at Philly above.

KC@JAX - Could answer questions about both teams.

 

[movingtarget]

Have a feeling the Chiefs are going to put the Jags in their place. A busted 49ers with five turn overs still had a chance to win on their final drive against the Jags.

Denver/Eagles should be interesting. Houston and Ravens is a must win for both teams. Ravens defense has to wake up.

Commanders/Chargers might be the game of the week. Can't see the Patriots beating the Bills. Buccs and Hawks should be another good one. Vikings/Browns could be a messy one. Browns defense might get it done.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Have a feeling the Chiefs are going to put the Jags in their place. A busted 49ers with five turn overs still had a chance to win on their final drive against the Jags.

Denver/Eagles should be interesting. Houston and Ravens is a must win for both teams. Ravens defense has to wake up.

Commanders/Chargers might be the game of the week. Can't see the Patriots beating the Bills. Buccs and Hawks should be another good one. Vikings/Browns could be a messy one. Browns defense might get it done.

Jags defense should keep them in the game but their offense and special teams are going to get beat up by the Chiefs.

 

[Sciatic]

Games to talk about:

MIN@CLE - Gabriel starts for the Browns in London. JJ still out for Vikings. Cheerio!
DEN@PHI - Is this a trap game for the Eagles?
HOU@BAL - The loser here is virtually out of the playoffs at 1-4.
TB@SEA - Both teams are 3-1. Both have looked surprisingly good at times.
WAS@LAC - Jayden Daniels back for the Commanders. Should be a good game.
NYG@NO - Rattler currently at 0-10 to start his career. If he loses again, he'll tie Troy Aikman who started his career 0-11. The record holder? DeShone Kizer, at 0-15.
DAL@NYJ - Injury report for both teams looks like a metropolis hospital patient list.
NE@BUF - See Denver at Philly above.

KC@JAX - Could answer questions about both teams.

Big day in downtown Seattle! I will be watching TB@SEA at the stadium's tailgate pavilion and then walking across the street to be at Mariners v. Tigers Game 2.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Wrong thread, but I'd love to see a Mariners-Brewers WS.

 

[Unchained]

What a mess - Sanchez has been charged with 3 alleged misdemeanor crimes for causing the altercation. The other guy hasn't been charged & police list him as the victim. This is insane - what is Sanchez doing out drinking late on the weekend of the game? Shouldn't he be in his hotel room preparing for the game? If these charges are upheld & it's concluded that he was the aggressor starting the altercation, I don't feel one bit sorry for him & FOX should boot him. FFS, he a family man & in the public eye as a color commentator for the network!

Mark Sanchez arrested in connection with battery, public intoxication after being stabbed in Indianapolis

Fox Sports, for whom Sanchez works as a broadcaster, said he was injured during an incident Saturday.

www.nytimes.com

There is a rumor that Rex Ryan's wife bailed him out of jail..

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Nice win for the Vikings. Gabriel played good for the Browns. Almost led them to a comeback.

Ravens defense still absolutely terrible. Offense without Lamar terrible. I know they have injured players and with Lamar out he's their offense, but Harbaugh's seat has to be getting hot. The Ravens look worse than the Panthers.

 

[Unchained]

Ravens defense still absolutely terrible. Offense without Lamar terrible.

The Raiders team bus just showed up, so the people that they got out of the stands to play the first half can go back to the bleachers