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You're right. The video I linked doesn't show the backers very well & I thought they let their guard down anticipating the Chiefs would call time out. This video with a better angle shows they were ready & were just blown back by the Chiefs OL. Nonetheless it's funny verbiage by Mahomes - did that actually go over the air live or does CBS use a short delay during their broadcasts? (I didn't see any of the game).

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/CWbH3wmaZHA?si=BxpN2R3zDLyAPLhP
I love unedited movies and real life. ****n A Patrick! Gotta be fun to pull that off no matter who was prepared.
 
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Precisely. He finally did put Brosmer in for the last series, that's it.

I think Wentz is into Andrew Luck, Derek Carr, RGIII territory, in that I don't know if his body can handle much more football. Two ACL tears, broken wrist, broken ribs, broken fingers, now a thrashed shoulder and thrashed elbow. Plus various other typical injuries every NFL player gets like concussions and high ankle sprains. The guy should seriously consider calling it quits. He's married with a couple kids. Go spend time with them. Go do something else with your life while you still can.

Both the Chargers and Broncos games with the Chiefs loom large. Are these kids ready to take on the bully on the block? Should be fun for us to watch.
Wentz reminds me of a bike racer I know that didn't quit until a family intervention.
 
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MIA@ATL - Kirk Cousins comeback game for the Falcons!
NYJ@CIN - Just days after Woody trashed Fields, he will be starting with Taylor out.
BUF@CAR - Bills haven't looked great of late, while the Panthers seem on the up.
CHI@BAL - Bears have won 4 in a row. Ravens cannot afford to lose. Get some players back on D, but not Lamar.
SF@HOU - Both Purdy and Pearsall out for Niners.
CLE@NE - Pats and Maye have been superb passing. Browns have a stout passing D.
DAL@DEN - High power offense vs. high power defense.
GB@PIT - Packers have underperformed, Steelers overperformed.

WAS@KC - Commanders completely banged up while KC is at near full strength.
 
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Starting QB's missing for this week : Penix, Purdy, Jackson, Burrow, Daniels, Tyrod Taylor, McCarthy, and Bryce Young expected to be out. NFC West the only division with three teams on five wins and all have healthy QB's except for the 49ers who have arguably one of the best back up QB's currently with Mac Jones who has won four of his five starts, then of course you have the QB issues at Vegas and the Browns. The importance of signing a good back up..........
 
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Deebo back for the injured Commanders. Be surprised if the Chiefs lost.

If Cousins is anywhere near his former self I don't expect the Falcons to lose against Miami although the Falcons racked up a few injuries last week.

If Flacco can replicate his last game or even just game manage it should be enough to defeat the hapless Jets. Bengals are playing better in general.

Bears will continue to run the ball although Swift has been banged up. Would not surprise if the Ravens bounce back as long as the QB play is reasonable. Bears in a close one.

Everyone's expecting a low scoring defensive game between the Texans and 49ers. Of course the 49ers lost their best pass rusher in Huff last week who would have been a big help against the worst O line in the league. Texans defense is playing well but their offense has major issues and injuries. Think the 49ers offense should find enough yards and CMC is back in form. Don't expect many TD's.

Browns and Patriots will be an interesting one. As ever with the Browns, where will the TD's come from ? Turn overs might decide it. Patriots to win.

Cowboys and Bronco's another one of contrasting styles. Dak and his receivers are in good form. Bronco's in a close one.

Not sold on GB after the early hype nor the Steelers for that matter. Packers to win by one score.

Dalton possibly starting for the Panthers. The Bills are in the doldrums at the moment. They need a win to get back on track. Bills to win but not by much.
 
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Jets comeback over the Bengals absolutely wild. Probably the best game of Fields career. Completely written off (including by me), the owner of the team trashes him, and he plays a superb game.

Eagles are going to be a difficult team for anyone to beat. So solid in every phase of the game. Cam Skattebo injury gruesome.

Mac Jones struggled again. Credit Texans D. Also CJ played good.

Now we see why Cousins isn't playing for the Falcons.

Despite Gabriel throwing 2 TDs and playing better every week, I fully expect the media and fans to make even more noise for Shedeur to start.
 
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Impressive Bronco win which should have been a better game by the Cowboys (this time the Broncos didn't spot the Cowboys 19 pts for the 1st 3 Qtrs, but instead scored 14 in the 1st Qtr & 27 by halftime themselves. Lol). Nix 4 TD strikes, Dobbins over 100 yds. The Broncos beat the Cowboys in every offensive category. (The Broncos have now beaten 3 out of the 4 NFC East teams with the Commanders game forthcoming in December). Broncos looking strong at 6-2.

Pats dominating win over Cleveland with Maye pushing for MVP consideration: 330 yds of total O & 3 scores. Pats also looking strong at 6-2.

Eagles are, in deed, looking very solid. Hurts did it with his arm this time throwing for 4 TDs Barkley & Bigsby combined 254 yds rushing.

Nice win by the Jets. I figured the Bengals would easily win this with the momentum carried over with Flacco's big win over Pittsburgh on TNF. Not so. Fields did look good but he also looked very good against the Steelers earlier this season. The problem is the Jets haven't won this year already essentially out of playoff contention even with this win. Johnson was absolutely counting on playoffs this year with a veteran QB like Fields. So, I think he's gone next year & they'll look at the draft for a QB.
 
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Impressive comeback, and dominant 4Q by the Packers and Love. This is the Packers team many expected to see as the season started. Having Watson back sure helped.

Today was also aptly named National Tight End's Day. Tucker Kraft had 7 catches for 143 yards and 2 TDs for the Pack!

In two weeks Green Bay hosts the Eagles. And on the 27th they go to Detroit.
 
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Since Oct 5th, he's been playing on a dislocated shoulder that included a torn labrum & fractured socket - no wonder he's been in excruciating pain. I wonder if he'll retire now & decide it's not worth putting his body through anymore destruction?
 
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Some terrible refereeing in the Eagles game but not enough to change the result for the Giants.

Two one win teams won while the Jets won their first game. Nice win for the Jets. Fields and Breece hall played well. Bengals collapse was ugly.

Good win for the Ravens. Huntley played well.

Miami had a nice win. Achane outplayed Robinson, and Tua had an improved game. Falcons have looked bad the past two weeks.

49ers had a dreadful loss. The Texans dominated time in possession and their defense stifled the 49ers for long periods. Much better game for Stroud while Mac Jones struggled, with limited opportunities. 11 point final margin felt like much more.
 
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That Wentz story is terrible. Makes Kirk Herbstreit look like even more of a tool. Carson absolutely should retire. What's left for him? He has a SB ring. Even though he didn't hold the trophy up on the field like Foles did, he seems to still be liked in Philly too. Yes, he had some not very good seasons, and bad games - but a lot of that was due to a slew of injuries. And he got to play on his childhood favorite team at the end of his career. A nice way to go out.

As to Ed Oliver, this extra sucks because this was the first week the Bills defense looked like the team they expected (granted poor competition, but still). Bicep surgery is often not just IR but out for the season, though there have been guys who came back after 8+ weeks, so who knows. There was talk the Bills were interested in Christian Wilkins. I have no idea how his foot is healing, if it is, and by every indication he's a strange dude. But the talent is there, and desperate situations...
 
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Good win for the Chiefs after a shaky 1st half (two picks by Mahomes though one was a tip). The 2nd half was a different story with vintage Mahomes throwing & scrambling to perfection. 9 catches & a score by Rice. And Worthy some nice catch & runs.

Mariota pretty much ineffective at generating any offense - you can clearly see there's a huge drop in production without Daniels. If they don't get him healthy & playing, their season is in jeopardy.

The big test for the Chiefs is the 3 games over the next 4 weeks: @ Buffalo, bye week then @ Denver, then home vs Indy. I think they need to win 2 out of the 3 - especially the Denver game - to regain control of the division.
 
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Don't really watch Chiefs games. Expected a blowout with Commanders missing so many players.

World Series tied in the 10th.
Fast forward to 18th inning after midnight! I was like you kept going back and forth between baseball and football.
Only highlight of game was Rashee Rice..he played well and had a controversial penalty for taunting. It looked like after he made the catch, was tackled, got up threw the ball ( gently) against the defender's head..from another camera angle it also appeared that he was just trying to toss the ball to the referee. Either way game was a blow out.
 
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The Cleveland Browns are the gift that just keeps giving in ineptitude.

Drafting Shedeur Sanders was like putting half your savings down on 00 on the roulette wheel, and letting it spin. The delusion is unreal from the media and fans, and the Browns put themselves in this situation. I can think of no time in my entire life when a guy drafted so low, designated third string (after the team traded two vets) has gotten so much attention. So many rookies get hyped, but none in my entire life as much as him, and the Browns had to know this would happen. Here's one article (of many one can find) talking about how Gabriel doesn't have it, and the Browns have to get Shedeur in there. Here's another. It's hard not to feel for Gabriel. What a lose-lose situation for him.

Here's a good post on X as to why this is a really bad idea, to assume Sanders has it, and may not even have what it takes to be in the NFL, period. This is from a former NFL scout, whose analysis of Shedeur coming out of college was "practice squad/undrafted." I know some people don't like X (including me!) so here's the gist of it:
  • Had the slowest time to throw in the entire league (ranked 105/105) during the preseason 3.96 seconds. To put this into further perspective, during the regular season, the range for NFL QBs according to Next Gen Stats is 2.56 seconds (Patrick Mahomes) - 3.17 seconds (Caleb Williams), and both of them are highly mobile, far more than Shedeur.
  • In Sanders second preseason game his time to throw was 5.13 seconds.
  • He was tied for being the second-most sacked quarterback in the NFL this preseason with 7 sacks.
  • He has however managed to keep himself in front of the cameras and make himself a focal point as a backup quarterback, when (historically) teams do not like a backup quarterback to be a “celebrity,” story or a distraction.
But that's a small problem the Browns have created compared to...

...how they and media seem to completely ignore the albatross around their neck as to why they are losing, and drafting a QB high next year may not be the solution either: They are paying Deshaun Watson $46m this year to sit on the PUP list. And since they continually kicked the can down the road restructuring his contract expecting him to improve, they will be paying him a staggering $81.9m in 2026 (nearly 1/3 of their entire payroll), and $53.7m in 2027. Fully guaranteed, so they'll pay every single penny to a 24 time sex offender, who isn't even any good playing football. If they cut him after this season, the cap hit dead money for next year will be $135m (46% of their entire cap!). If they hold on to him through 2026, then cut him before 2027, the dead money would be "only" the $53.7m.

To give some perspective, I believe the most cash a QB ever made in NFL history in one season was Mahomes making $64m in 2024. This was his total payout including how the contract was structured, plus all his earned bonuses, and playoff pay.
 
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What's the real reason Sanders dropped to the 5th rd? Was it that his performance & skill level at CU was overrated? Or was it his flamboyant attitude & poor interviews he gave during the pre-draft process?

Aside from what the anonymous "former scout" has concluded, every draft site & publication had him as a 1st rounder. They collectively had Ward #1 OA - that happened. They had Dart going in the early 2nd rd. Daboll saw good potential with his dual-threat capability & traded up to take him in the late 1st rd - so they were accurate there also (i.e. late 1st rd/early 2d rd - not much difference). Sanders was projected to be taken somewhere in mid to late 1st rd designated as"QB-2" in this year's draft.

So what happened? Could all of the scouts screwed up on Sanders but yet got it right on Ward & Dart? How could they all agree that Sanders is 1st rd material when he's suppose to be 5th rd - backup - material? Lol. That's crazy for them to be off by that much. IMO, it's his attitude & baggage that turned off teams.

The other thing with Sanders is that he's athletic & mobile, but he doesn't like to run very often (maybe he's frightened of getting hit?). He's classified as a "mobile pocket passer" & runs a 4.68 - faster than both Ward & Dart, who are only in the 4.8s. In fact, this was pointed out in one of his scouting reports (Draft Buzz):

"Above-average mobility with enough juice to extend plays when needed, though he prefers to win from the pocket."


And he can effectively run if he wants - take a look at this impressive run @ 2:12 into the video:

View: https://youtu.be/BUOOALFbWIg?si=JXyluh5w1gMFGefi

I think if Sanders believes he can succeed in the NFL as just a pure pocket passer, he's sadly mistaken. These QBs nowadays - even the ones with elite arm strength & elite passing skills - must be able to effectively run presenting a dual-threat component at some level to their game.

As pointed out, Sanders time to throw isn't good at all & that's something that needs improvement by development from a good QB coach. His release time & velocity were good at his pro day with the ball coming out nicely, so it could be related to pocket awareness, decision making, offensive scheme, lack of mobility, etc - or specifically in his case his unwillingness to run/scramble & play off-schedule.
 
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Not anonymous at all. David Kelly is the guy's name, and he's posted many times across platforms about players, has a website, has been on podcasts, and has a book out. I think he brings up some excellent points, beyond what I quoted. Just read his full tweet, and look at his draft profiles. He even goes into details on Sanders running. He was one of the few people who predicted Shedeur would fall in the draft. Why? Because he's done the job the people who actually make the draft picks rely on. I believe the only guy on NFL Draft Buzz who was a scout is Daniel Jeremiah (the guy most wow'd by Zach Wilson's pro day throw). Mel Kiper is a pundit, half-entertainer.

But I'm also sure we're going to find out if Shedeur has it or not soon enough. Many people in the media, and a lot of loud fans think he's got it, and they are ready to jettison Gabriel to pave the way for Sanders success. Shedeur is certain he has it also. So at some point Haslem is going to push, and Stefanski is going to cave. And my guess is it happens by Thanksgiving. Probably the Nov 23 game against the Raiders. Help set him up for success against a weak team.