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[SHAD0W93]

Dang Jayden Daniels injuring his arm looked crazy bad!!!!! The only positive is that it was his non throwing arm but I can see a lot of physical and occipital therapy in his future.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Very impressive game by Seattle. That Daniels injury looked gruesome. I can't imagine he didn't tear ligaments in addition to the dislocation. He absolutely will go on IR, and the Commanders season is basically cooked, even if he makes it back late in the season with his arm in a brace.

Raiders did play their heart out. Best performance all season, even in a loss. They could spoil some other teams week in the future.

I wouldn't say the Panthers offense, or Young, looked that good. It was just surprising how the Packers could not get into the end zone.

In a similar way, I'm baffled as to why the Chiefs offense couldn't sustain drives. Yes, Mahomes faced pressure. But he's always done well with pressure. It's not like he was running for his life. And that last int was just a bad decision. I can't tell what's going on with KC, but they absolutely cannot afford to lose in Denver in two weeks (after a bye), especially with Surtain still out. If they lose KC will be 3 full games behind them, 10 weeks into the season. Then KC plays the Colts the following week.

 

[movingtarget]

Bad day for the Commanders :

• QB Jayden Daniels, who left Sunday’s loss with his left arm immobilized, suffered a dislocated elbow and will have an MRI to determine how long he’s out, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported Monday. He's expected to miss several games.
• WR Luke McCaffrey broke his collarbone in Washington's loss to Seattle, Rapoport and NFL Network Insiders Mike Garafolo and Tom Pelissero reported. McCaffrey will be placed on injured reserve and likely miss the remainder of the season.
• CB Marshon Lattimore is feared to have torn his ACL in Sunday night's defeat, Rapoport and Garafolo reported. Lattimore will undergo an MRI to confirm the injury.

 

[Nomad]

A silver lining to Daniels' injury is that it's to his non-throwing arm. Also, reports say X-rays were negative for any fractures & the injury may not be season-ending. And Quinn is taking all kinds of heat for leaving Daniels out there in the 4Q during a blowout (I agree...WTH was Daniels doing out in the 4Q with the score 38-10?).

FAQ on Jayden Daniels' dislocated elbow: When will he return? And why was he still in the game?

Our experts answer all the pressing questions surrounding the Commanders QB's latest injury.

www.espn.com

 

[Nomad]

In a similar way, I'm baffled as to why the Chiefs offense couldn't sustain drives. Yes, Mahomes faced pressure. But he's always done well with pressure. It's not like he was running for his life. And that last int was just a bad decision. I can't tell what's going on with KC, but they absolutely cannot afford to lose in Denver in two weeks (after a bye), especially with Surtain still out. If they lose KC will be 3 full games behind them, 10 weeks into the season. Then KC plays the Colts the following week.

It looks like Mahomes played the worst game of his career. Did you hear it was the first time he has finished a regular season game with a completion rate below 50% (44%). It was also the first time he has failed to throw a TD pass in a game (I didn't realize that he's thrown at least one TD pass in every game he's played in up to this point). In fact, Mahomes hasn't thrown the ball as well as he normally does. His completion percentage & passer rating is considerably down from his career averages (maybe that's why he's been running more trying to beat teams with his legs).

OTOH, Buffalo has been cranking up their running game big time. They are currently the #1 rushing team with Cook the #2 leading rusher in the league (behind Taylor). Cook has rushed for 867 yds & is on pace for 1800 yds, which would blow away last season's total of 1009 yds (and the durability of Cook is impressive since he's only 190 lbs taking on the physical stress of an every down back). The improved running game with Cook has taken the load off of Allen who doesn't have to run as much and can throw more easily off of play action.



 

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

I didn't know that. Oddly, in the losses to Atl and NE, people were saying the Bills running attack wasn't very good. But just like their maligned defense, they have really stepped up. I don't even know who some of these DBs are that Brandon Beane found in the draft, but they were lights out good against KC. And they're all young. Similar on their DL. Ed Oliver and Micahel Hoecht out? No problem, these guys filling in that you've never heard of are 99% as good.

You're in Denver, rumblings on the internet think Surtain will be back in two weeks for the road game against KC. Broncos decided to not put him on IR last week (strained pectoral. Not a tear, but hard to just tape up). Meaning he won't have to miss 4 games. Returning for the KC game means he misses just two games. If Denver can go into KC and beat the Chiefs, that would be a real punch to the gut of the long-time division bully.

Joe Alt will have season ending ankle surgery. A big loss for the Chargers. They lost Slater early in the season, now Alt. Two very good tackles, both gone for the season.

 

[Oldman]

Dang Jayden Daniels injuring his arm looked crazy bad!!!!! The only positive is that it was his non throwing arm but I can see a lot of physical and occipital therapy in his future.

...and the Washington history of wasting aggressively athletic but lightly built QBs continues.

 

[Oldman]

Watching the current NFL history playout in Arlington. Dallas has(?) a 3-4 touchdown a game offense with a very highly paid QB. But like current day America where the Big Wheel identity plays out in all ways of life: Jerry owns this team and outcome.
Seeing the oldest active player in the league on defense sack Dak twice in a series says many things.

 

[Oldman]

It looks like Mahomes played the worst game of his career. Did you hear it was the first time he has finished a regular season game with a completion rate below 50% (44%). It was also the first time he has failed to throw a TD pass in a game (I didn't realize that he's thrown at least one TD pass in every game he's played in up to this point). In fact, Mahomes hasn't thrown the ball as well as he normally does. His completion percentage & passer rating is considerably down from his career averages (maybe that's why he's been running more trying to beat teams with his legs).

OTOH, Buffalo has been cranking up their running game big time. They are currently the #1 rushing team with Cook the #2 leading rusher in the league (behind Taylor). Cook has rushed for 867 yds & is on pace for 1800 yds, which would blow away last season's total of 1009 yds (and the durability of Cook is impressive since he's only 190 lbs taking on the physical stress of an every down back). The improved running game with Cook has taken the load off of Allen who doesn't have to run as much and can throw more easily off of play action.



 

I wouldn't get too far down on the Chiefs offense. It was a one score game as haphazardly as the offense played. Everyone knows the problem is getting through the playoffs with their current record.

 

[Nomad]

Too funny - the Cardinals punched the Cowboys right in the mouth in their backyard. Love seeing Jerry & "America's team" lose. I bet he's fuming all the way back to his mansion. Is he going to fire Schottenheimer? Lol. Great defensive effort by the Cards. And Jacoby Brissett looked outstanding (2nd game in a row where he looked good). I bet Gannon will stick with Brissett who I think could become a starter in this league.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

I agree there. Two years in a row I wanted the Raiders to sign Brissett, then have him be a bridge QB until the Raiders can draft/groom their QB for the future. Brissett has to be the best talent & value vs. cost QB in the league, along with Joe Flacco maybe. I can't see Gannon going back to Murray at this point. Brissett would have to have a really bad game.

That NFC West is a tough division. The Cardinals are in last place at 3-5, but easily could be 5-3. They also have a +9 point differential right now, better than the 5-3 Niners, (Seattle at +81!), and have had a tough schedule so far.

An issue with the Chiefs may be this: Let's assume they are a wildcard. I'm sure most teams won't look forward to seeing them in the playoffs. I think the Chiefs could on any given playoff Sunday beat any other team in the AFC. But I just don't see this team doing that against 3 (or 4) playoff teams in a row. It just seems highly unlikely. Put another way, I can see them getting the WC, then going into Pittsburgh and knocking the Steelers off. Then going to Baltimore and losing one of those 30-21 games that Mahomes keeps close, but it's clear the better team won. Or we'd see a repeat of this last week in Buffalo, etc.

 

[Unchained]

I agree there. Two years in a row I wanted the Raiders to sign Brissett, then have him be a bridge QB until the Raiders can draft/groom their QB for the future. Brissett has to be the best talent & value vs. cost QB in the league, along with Joe Flacco maybe. I can't see Gannon going back to Murray at this point. Brissett would have to have a really bad game.

That NFC West is a tough division. The Cardinals are in last place at 3-5, but easily could be 5-3. They also have a +9 point differential right now, better than the 5-3 Niners, (Seattle at +81!), and have had a tough schedule so far.

An issue with the Chiefs may be this: Let's assume they are a wildcard. I'm sure most teams won't look forward to seeing them in the playoffs. I think the Chiefs could on any given playoff Sunday beat any other team in the AFC. But I just don't see this team doing that against 3 (or 4) playoff teams in a row. It just seems highly unlikely. Put another way, I can see them getting the WC, then going into Pittsburgh and knocking the Steelers off. Then going to Baltimore and losing one of those 30-21 games that Mahomes keeps close, but it's clear the better team won. Or we'd see a repeat of this last week in Buffalo, etc.

I love Chiefs offensive coordination and find all the utility of Rashee Rice really cool. I think the Chiefs are best when banging the line of scrimmage with Isiah Pacheco and I love Kareem Hunt, he gets it done but something just a little faster, little more explosive in Pacheco's play. He takes pressure off of everyone with 4,5 yard runs consistently and it makes the defense play him even without the ball which looks like it opens up lots of block and release stuff for KC tight ends. I think they can win with Hunt but it's not the same dynamic. Something looks off with offensive line for KC, PM getting sacked or hurried more often and defense getting backfield pressure consistently and minimize running efficiency..

 

[Oldman]

I love Chiefs offensive coordination and find all the utility of Rashee Rice really cool. I think the Chiefs are best when banging the line of scrimmage with Isiah Pacheco and I love Kareem Hunt, he gets it done but something just a little faster, little more explosive in Pacheco's play. He takes pressure off of everyone with 4,5 yard runs consistently and it makes the defense play him even without the ball which looks like it opens up lots of block and release stuff for KC tight ends. I think they can win with Hunt but it's not the same dynamic. Something looks off with offensive line for KC, PM getting sacked or hurried more often and defense getting backfield pressure consistently and minimize running efficiency..

KC's line wasn't giving much time for the RPO that makes both Pacheco and Hunt very dangerous. Mahomes wasn't given much room to roam, either. Pacheco was hitting hard as was Hunt so no lack of effort there.
Alpe' is correct in the playoff road analysis: it's potholed all the way with big trucks in the path....

 

[Oldman]

Too funny - the Cardinals punched the Cowboys right in the mouth in their backyard. Love seeing Jerry & "America's team" lose. I bet he's fuming all the way back to his mansion. Is he going to fire Schottenheimer? Lol. Great defensive effort by the Cards. And Jacoby Brissett looked outstanding (2nd game in a row where he looked good). I bet Gannon will stick with Brissett who I think could become a starter in this league.

Jerry held a presscon with former Cowboys flanking him and reporters listening to his wisdom. He called out Parson's basic character as not worthy of a big contract or the team leadership role. His example was a time during early season workouts that "a player" (para), in the Arlington heat had to take a pause and go to the physio table....What kind of fantasy analysis is that, Jerry? Everyone listening seemed slightly uncomfortable.
It's Jerry's team and fate and that excuse for not providing a player with a contract doesn't seem real. It's just an excuse rather than an admission of a mistake. IMO, a mea culpa would go a long way to restore team morale, but that's just me.

 

[Unchained]

KC's line wasn't giving much time for the RPO that makes both Pacheco and Hunt very dangerous. Mahomes wasn't given much room to roam, either. Pacheco was hitting hard as was Hunt so no lack of effort there.
Alpe' is correct in the playoff road analysis: it's potholed all the way with big trucks in the path....

Why Isiah Pacheco isn't playing today for Chiefs vs. Bills, with injury return update and depth chart news

Kansas City is a bit shorthanded at a key spot.

sports.yahoo.com

Hope he gets to 100% soon

 

[Unchained]

Jerry held a presscon with former Cowboys flanking him and reporters listening to his wisdom. He called out Parson's basic character as not worthy of a big contract or the team leadership role. His example was a time during early season workouts that "a player" (para), in the Arlington heat had to take a pause and go to the physio table....What kind of fantasy analysis is that, Jerry? Everyone listening seemed slightly uncomfortable.
It's Jerry's team and fate and that excuse for not providing a player with a contract doesn't seem real. It's just an excuse rather than an admission of a mistake. IMO, a mea culpa would go a long way to restore team morale, but that's just me.

There are a bunch of different articles out there about stuff like bond issues and franchise values. In Buffalo for example prices will be different for new stadium. And in Las Vegas and now Dallas, franchise value continues to increase even when you are putting an inferior product on the field. Jerry Jones can play the part pretend that something is in jeopardy but reality is he is in an all win situation, all the time, win or lose. Even his merchandise sales are up despite poor on field results. Cowboys are a license to print money.
I have not read anything widespread about Parsons being corrosive in the locker room.

Packers’ Micah Parsons suffers unfathomable NFL first 2 weeks after career-best game

It's hard to believe but the Panthers succeeded in holding Packers star Micah Parsons without a pressure in Week 9.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Jerry is senile. He might want to look up Korey Stringer.

Some years ago there was an interview with Jim "Playoffs?" Mora Sr. who was a pretty strict coach. He talked about how he pushed players hard in practice and was fortunate an occurrence like Stringer didn't happen under his watch, and he regretted not paying closer attention to players actual health needs. Jerry would be wise to do the same.

This last Sunday was the first game this year Parsons wasn't a force for the Packers. It's been Green Bay's offense that's simply not clicked. Especially in the red zone. One bad game doesn't mean Parsons has not been terrific for the Packers, whose defense is 5th in yards, and 6th in points. While Dallas defense still can't stop anything.

 

[SHAD0W93]

I think the Chiefs are best when banging the line of scrimmage with Isiah Pacheco and I love Kareem Hunt, he gets it done but something just a little faster, little more explosive in Pacheco's play. He takes pressure off of everyone with 4,5 yard runs consistently and it makes the defense play him even without the ball which looks like it opens up lots of block and release stuff for KC tight ends.

The Chiefs have been terrible rushing the ball this year with Mahomes having almost as much yards as Pacheco and Hunt. Mahomes has also lead the team in rushing in multiple games.