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Alpe d'Huez

Alpe d'Huez

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Unchained said:
For a brief period some players, mostly with big body types were wearing a device that looked to limit the range of motion for the lower leg. Not sure if that knee joint limiter thing works.
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RGIII wore one in that fateful playoff game. He came into the game with a strained LCL from this play, then sat. It got to the playoffs, they put that brace on him and tossed him out there. His knee buckled even with the brace, and tore both the LCL and ACL (same as Mahomes). But RGIII had previously torn that same ACL. One amazing rookie season, and that was it, his career effectively over. So I wouldn't expect a brace to do much.

If Jefferson is punished I don't know how fair it would be. But they would do it I think because it was for retribution. A payback, revenge hit. The league hates those.

Eagerly await Thursday night's game. Huge implications. Injury bug finally hitting the Rams. Neither Adams or Fiske participated in practice at all. May miss the game. Seattle almost back to full strength. Only Cross on the OL is questionable, and they will need him.
 
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Alpe d'Huez said:
RGIII wore one in that fateful playoff game. He came into the game with a strained LCL from this play, then sat. It got to the playoffs, they put that brace on him and tossed him out there. His knee buckled even with the brace, and tore both the LCL and ACL (same as Mahomes). But RGIII had previously torn that same ACL. One amazing rookie season, and that was it, his career effectively over. So I wouldn't expect a brace to do much.

If Jefferson is punished I don't know how fair it would be. But they would do it I think because it was for retribution. A payback, revenge hit. The league hates those.

Eagerly await Thursday night's game. Huge implications. Injury bug finally hitting the Rams. Neither Adams or Fiske participated in practice at all. May miss the game. Seattle almost back to full strength. Only Cross on the OL is questionable, and they will need him.
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Regardless what folks think of Darnold, I think the big concern about the Hawks is the OL performance that has deteriorated the past few games. Probably overall not terrible, but they recent games gives local fans PTSD flashbacks from a decade of subpar line performance. Hoping for better on Thursday.
 
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They've been missing Charles Cross, starting LT, who is listed as questionable for Thursday.

Pete Carroll, even more so than Kyle Shanahan, always put more emphasis on playmakers and D, than the OL. This ended up costing the Seahawks in how you speak.

The Raiders currently have the worst OL in the entire NFL, and are likely to finish 2-14, if that tells anyone anything.

I find it interesting that Mahomes had surgery on Monday, while Micah Parsons and the Packers medical staff are going to wait until the swelling goes down before he has ACL surgery. There is a lot of online info on this, including some of rushing Mahomes surgery in order to get him into rehab as fast as possible so he can return by the start of next season.

In 2017 Carson Wentz had very similar surgery and came back just less than 10 months later. But Wentz himself said it took him almost two years to fully heal. He wasn't as mobile as Mahomes though. One can argue Wentz was never the same after this surgery, as he ended up with a slew of minor and major injuries after that. So who knows what will happen?
 
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Alpe d'Huez said:
RGIII wore one in that fateful playoff game. He came into the game with a strained LCL from this play, then sat. It got to the playoffs, they put that brace on him and tossed him out there. His knee buckled even with the brace, and tore both the LCL and ACL (same as Mahomes). But RGIII had previously torn that same ACL. One amazing rookie season, and that was it, his career effectively over. So I wouldn't expect a brace to do much.
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Great find & good analysis. I remember watching that game seeing those events unfold. What a travesty...great potention RGIII had. Elite passing skills, elite running skills, great leadership qualities coming out of Baylor. Intelligent. ROY as a week #1 starter. It's so hard to see how quickly major injuries can derail a QB's career.
 
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Wow...not good for Tua's future. Being benched by a 7th rd pick & last QB drafted in this class. Lol Ewers started the season on the roster as QB3 (McDaniel decided to keep 3 QBs on the active), supplanted Zach Wilson as the backup in week #7 (time for Wilson to move onto the UFL or CFL?), and now gets his first start. Clearly a lack of confidence in Tua.

Out of the 13 drafted & two signed undrafted QBs, 8 have now started at least one game; Ward, Dart, Shough, Grabriel, Sanders, Brosmer, Cook & now Ewers (not counting Leonard since he technically didn't start but came in to relieve Jones when he injured the Achilles, and has since remained the backup with the signing of Rivers).

This is unprecedented with the lower round & undrafted picks. It spells desperation on the coaches part. In Tua's case, McDaniel is benching a 6 yr veteran who was a 5th OA pick for a 7th rd pick & last QB drafted in this class.
 
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The Raiders currently have the worst OL in the entire NFL, and are likely to finish 2-14, if that tells anyone anything.
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Worse than the Tennessee Titans??? If that's the case, then it doesn't matter who starts at QB for their remaining 3 games - they all would do bad. Lol
 
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Have you managed to sit through any Raiders games? They are that bad. Pete Carroll is stuck in 2019, and made his nepo son the offensive line coach. Making it worse, their two best offensive linemen are also on IR: Kolton Miller, and Jackson Powers Johnson. Pete brought in Stone "Feet" Foresyth to play LT. He was bad when on Seattle a few years ago.

Some pundits proposed Burrow go to the Raiders. Let's see: Far worse OL. No Higgins or Chase to throw to. And the guy is made of glass. But owed a heap of cash. What could possibly go wrong?!

I think Tua needs to retire after this season. He could talk the Dolphins into some sort of settlement where they pay him, and he's gone. Sort of like what Derek Carr did with the Saints. The only reason for Tua to stay in the NFL is to maybe go to winning team next year as a backup to try to win a ring.

Murray someone will take a flyer on, but he's entering the Geno Smith, Jimmy Garoppolo, Marcus Mariota phase of his career.
 
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No, I haven't really watched much of the Raiders except the two games against the Broncos. The reason why I suggest the Titans' OL may be worse is not only are the Titans 2-12 - same as the Raiders - but Cam Ward is officially the worse performing QB so far this year.

He's dead last in QBR, 2nd to last in passer rating, sub-60 Comp Pct, only 11 TDs thrown (26th worse), and sacked 49 times (same number as Smith). So, it looks like Ward is playing behind a college OL. Lol. If it's not the OL, then Ward is totally overrated & never should have been taken #1. You can't have a #1 OA play that badly unless there's a totally dysfunctional OL. Remember, Ward came with a Mahomes Superman package & is suppose to be the answer to the Titan's QB woes.
 
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Indiana, huh? And another wimpy dome. Bilking the taxpayers since the Halas and McCaskey families don't want to put up much of their own cash. And why would they if they can get plyable politicians to do their bidding?

As to Cam Ward, he's a rookie. And Geno Smith has thrown double the interceptions he has, while playing less games. I also barely recognize the Titans receivers. Geno has Brock Bowers to throw to, plus Tyler Lockett, plus they had Jacobi Myers before the Raiders traded him at the deadline. Geno is also a savvy vet, making $40m this year, with $66m guaranteed in his contract. If the Titans called the Raiders and offered to trade Ward for Smith, the Raiders would be foolish to say no. Both offensive lines are terrible, but Cam is very likely to improve.
 
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So, we could have the Indiana Bears? Gary Bears? Lol. What's wrong with Soldier Field? I thought it was renovated at a pretty hefty pricetag not too long ago? They're out of their minds if they move the Bears. "Da Bears' belong in Chicago...with the Cubs, Bulls & Blackhawks.

Well, Jayden Daniels was a rookie when he led the Commanders to the NFC championship game. The Commanders had a below-average OL that season, and I can't think of any weapons off of the top of my head that Daniels had other than maybe Ertz & McLaurin? And look at them now - Daniels misses half of the season & they tank. We can definitely conclude that as Daniels' health goes...so goes the Commanders.

Here's the current grading of the OLs. The Raiders & Browns are tied for the worst OLs. The Titans have the 7th worst OL. What really struck out at me on this list is the Chargers have the 3rd worst OL with all the injuries & yet they're sitting pretty at 10-4 challenging for the division. You have to admit this is the exceptional play of Herbert carrying the team broken hand & all.

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As to Murray, I think he's become a big injury risk. In the last 3 seasons he's only played in 30 games out of 51 due to injuries. This season he played in only the first 5 games before sustaining the season-ending foot injury. I don't know of any teams that would want to take chance on him with his concerning injury history. He may go down as an injury bust with a future as a backup role.
 
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That was some game between Seahawks and Rams. Game of the year, IMO. Seahawks clinch playoff berth. If they win their last two games, they clinch home field advantage. Definitely not over yet, because the Niners are playing as good as they have all season, and the Rams are not out of it, but a loss for either of those two teams and Seahawks have the number one seed.
 
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That was one heck of a game. Came down to a 2-point conversion. And what redemption for Sam Darnold. To me both of these teams are better than the 49ers.

It shocks me how dry this game was. It's been absolutely pouring in Portland, buckets, rivers overflowing, etc.
 
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Alpe d'Huez said:
That was one heck of a game. Came down to a 2-point conversion. And what redemption for Sam Darnold. To me both of these teams are better than the 49ers.

It shocks me how dry this game was. It's been absolutely pouring in Portland, buckets, rivers overflowing, etc.
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Most people would agree . But crazily, the path to the one seed is still there for the 49ers if they win their last three games. Of course the toughest game will be against Seattle in week 18. 49ers currently have the tiebreaker over Seattle and the Rams re divisional games. Big test on Monday night trying to limit Taylor with a run defense that has been mediocre lately. He's the bigger danger to the 49ers over Rivers. Purdy has picked up and the 49ers offense might have to be the ones to carry the game.

Rams and Seattle was a very entertaining game.
 
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Most people would agree . But crazily, the path to the one seed is still there for the 49ers if they win their last three games. Of course the toughest game will be against Seattle in week 18. 49ers currently have the tiebreaker over Seattle and the Rams re divisional games. Big test on Monday night trying to limit Taylor with a run defense that has been mediocre lately. He's the bigger danger to the 49ers over Rivers. Purdy has picked up and the 49ers offense might have to be the ones to carry the game.

Rams and Seattle was a very entertaining game.
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I have a hard time choosing the best Best Coach between these 3 teams. Mike M has definitely shown his OC can script an amazing 4th qtr. As a long suffering Seahawk fan I hope they can prevail but both of those teams are as good or close on any day.
Suffering: https://www.facebook.com/ustadiumsp...n-the-league-season-premiere/787597394690041/
 
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Alpe d'Huez said:
That was one heck of a game. Came down to a 2-point conversion. And what redemption for Sam Darnold. To me both of these teams are better than the 49ers.

It shocks me how dry this game was. It's been absolutely pouring in Portland, buckets, rivers overflowing, etc.
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Flooding in every valley around Puget Sound for the last week, but weirdly a brief weather reprieve during the game. I thought it would be in a downpour, which might work to the Hawks advantage, but perhaps they just would have had even more turnovers. Great, entertaining game to watch, but I actually think the Rams are the better team. We could get the rubber match in the playoffs. As I mentioned previously it's the Hawks OL play that has been the biggest (downward) factor. Zabel hasn't gotten beaten like he did last night all year. Hopefully just an off game and he'll learn from it.
 
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It seems to me whenever teams can pressure Stafford, he's not as good. His passing is off, or he crumples.
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We'll see, the Jags come to Mile High this Sunday to face the #1 defense & sack leaders.
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Texans D leads the league in least yards given up, and least points given up, not your Broncos. Those are the general metric used when most every pundit refers to a team as #1 defense. :cool:

I will however say I'm not convinced Lawrence has all of a sudden turned into some sort of legend either.
 
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