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[Alpe d'Huez]

If Tom Brady gets drafted by the 49ers in the 5th round, how many Super Bowls does Bill Belichick go to?

Meanwhile, two years ago some said Carson Beck was often thought of as an NFL prospect, though some said he was lucky throwing the ball to Bowers. Last season he got a lot of hate for not delivering at Georgia, played hurt, and many wrote him off. He goes to Miami, and takes them to the national championship with the win of his life. They beat the 7th ranked team, the 2nd ranked team, and now the 6th ranked team. While playing on a team many thought didn't even deserve to be in the tournament. He's big, has a decent arm, not a dual threat but reasonably mobile, and just wins, sometimes clutch. But no one is talking about him anymore.

 

[Nomad]

Zero SBs for Belichick. Lol

If you recall, Beck had season-ending Tommy John surgery in December (2024) for a torn UCL on his right elbow. He looks to have recovered 100% showing no signs of any throwing flaws. His arm strength looks good & he spins the ball well.

Bleacher has him as a 3rd rd pick (high-level backup/starter upside). Draft Buzz also has him going in the 3rd rd ranking him as the 6th best QB. But all that could change if he has good showing at the combine/pro day. He has elite size as you pointed out.

 

[SHAD0W93]

I think Belichick gets fired after 2001 or 2002 and probably back to DC somewhere. Brady would still need to be polished but he wins at least 1.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

If SF had drafted him instead of famed goat herder Giovanni Carmazzi, I think Steve Mariucci would have developed Brady just fine. Maybe not 10 super bowls, but they would have done well. Had Tom taken longer to develop/play, Mariucci been fired and the trajectory of Dennis Erickson, Mike Nolan, Mike Singletary (who went 45-82, been the coaches, until Harbaugh came along in 2011)? I'm not sure Tom would have lasted so long in such a mess of a system. Alex Smith struggled greatly through it.

No Brady in NE? I think the Patriots don't beat the Raiders in the tuck rule game (should have lost anyway). The following year they traded Bledsoe to Buffalo, and with Brady went just 9-7. So I doubt they would have won the SB with Bledsoe that year either. The following year Belichick revamped their defense, Brady got a lot better, and they went 14-2 and won the SB. Would they have done this with an aging Bledsoe? Damon Huard? Patrick Ramsey (they traded this pick to Washington, who took him)? Rex Grossman or Kyle Boller, who they could have drafted? Those two are more intriguing, but younger, and I'm saying no. What if they had continued to languish in mediocrity, but with a good defense, until a guy named Aaron Rodgers falls to them in the 2005 draft...? But would Belichick been around that long? After a slew of 7-9 seasons? What if they hired Lovie Smith or Mike Mularkey to be HC?

Alternate history is fun!

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Lost all respect for whomever wrote that article when they listed the Browns as the 3rd best option...

Yes, I'm quoting myself. I read another article where some idiot said the Browns had the 4th best situation for any HC going into next season. These reporters must be idiots. They must never look into details. It's unreal.

RGIII sets things straight, saying it's not only the worst team, it's maybe the worst situation in NFL history. He points out not only the Watson debacle, but how they botched the Mayfield situation. How they will probably start Sanders next year, but drafted Gabriel above him, so they'll likely try to trade him, but likely at a loss. Then have Sanders and Watson on the team, which could be toxic. Also that GM Andrew Barry has to be on a very hot seat, so as HC you could have a new GM the following season, and that GM may want his own coach, especially right as the team finally gets out of the Watson albatross, and (I'm adding) I doubt Sanders is ever going to be a tier 1 QB, maybe not even tier 2 in this league.

Ex-Pro Bowl QB says Browns have the worst head coaching vacancy ‘maybe in NFL history’

The Cleveland Browns fired head coach Kevin Stefanski, but a former NFL quarterback said they may have a tough time attracting a top candidate.

www.nj.com

As I said before, at least with the Raiders you're starting from scratch. Your own QB, your own staff. You also have a heap of FA money to play with to build the team over the next two years. Zero dead money.

 

[Nomad]

Cam Newton evaluating this season's playoff QBs as either "game changers" or "game managers."

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/aP4yAWLKxc4?si=qXlBCZJZ-v0Z2H7w

 

[SHAD0W93]

Are the Patriots even making it to the playoffs with Bledsoe injured or are we thinking he doesn’t get hurt against the Jets?

 

[movingtarget]

Dolphins expected to hire Jon-Eric Sullivan as new general manager

 

[Nomad]

As I said before, at least with the Raiders you're starting from scratch. Your own QB, your own staff. You also have a heap of FA money to play with to build the team over the next two years. Zero dead money.

The million dollar question is; who's going to be the coach? You're were saying that both Johnson & Coen turned down the job. That's very bad if you have coordinators that have never been a HC before turning down offers from certain teams. It's starts with a competent HC. Carroll obviously wasn't the right guy for the job. Lol. Any possibility that Brady would take on HC duties if they couldn't find any legitimate candidates?

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Zero chance.

My guesses are, somewhat in order:

Klint Kubiak. Davis Webb, Kliff Kingsbury.​

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Outside chances are:

Mike McDaniel, Vance Joseph, Joe Brady, Mike Kafka, Robert Saleh, Kevin Stefanski.​

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The Raiders seem somewhat enamored with Kubiak. But so are other teams. There is also a strong chance a combination of these end up on the team. Say, Davis Webb as HC, and Kingsbury as OC (or flip the two). Webb apparently interviewed extremely well, is a former QB, and apparently the guy who's worked the most with Nix, and Josh Allen before him. He and Kingsbury are close friends, and the Raiders interviewed Kliff two years ago for OC, before he took the Washington job (can't blame him). Mark Davis apparently has spoken to Webb a few times, and perhaps interviewed him a year ago for HC or OC, though Mark says he's not making hiring decisions this time, and letting GM Spytek and Brady do that (who knows how true this is though, with any owner).

The Raiders will get someone who isn't a total loser. If only because they pay. In recent years Mark Davis investments have been a huge boon, he's quietly quintupled his wealth, and he's been happy to pay his coaches.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Any possibility that Brady would take on HC duties if they couldn't find any legitimate candidates?

Fastest way to get a ring as owner and head coach. While he’s at it, should go in as qb too.

 

[Nomad]

My guesses are, somewhat in order:

Klint Kubiak. Davis Webb, Kliff Kingsbury.​

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Outside chances are:

Mike McDaniel, Vance Joseph, Joe Brady, Mike Kafka, Robert Saleh, Kevin Stefanski.​

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Jim Tomsula? Rex Ryan? (they couldn't do any worse than the last two guys. Lol).

 

[Sciatic]

Yes, I'm quoting myself. I read another article where some idiot said the Browns had the 4th best situation for any HC going into next season. These reporters must be idiots. They must never look into details. It's unreal.

RGIII sets things straight, saying it's not only the worst team, it's maybe the worst situation in NFL history. He points out not only the Watson debacle, but how they botched the Mayfield situation. How they will probably start Sanders next year, but drafted Gabriel above him, so they'll likely try to trade him, but likely at a loss. Then have Sanders and Watson on the team, which could be toxic. Also that GM Andrew Barry has to be on a very hot seat, so as HC you could have a new GM the following season, and that GM may want his own coach, especially right as the team finally gets out of the Watson albatross, and (I'm adding) I doubt Sanders is ever going to be a tier 1 QB, maybe not even tier 2 in this league.

Ex-Pro Bowl QB says Browns have the worst head coaching vacancy ‘maybe in NFL history’

The Cleveland Browns fired head coach Kevin Stefanski, but a former NFL quarterback said they may have a tough time attracting a top candidate.

www.nj.com

As I said before, at least with the Raiders you're starting from scratch. Your own QB, your own staff. You also have a heap of FA money to play with to build the team over the next two years. Zero dead money.

Only way to go for Raiders is up . . . though it may take a season to get rid of all chaff.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Choke job by the Panthers, and somewhat Young, but really this loss fell on Canalas as the Panthers coaching staff. The fact they played a soft defense once they got the lead, never once pressuring Stafford, not a single blitzer in the last two minute drive, after mild pressure had Stafford off for the entire middle of the game, just unreal. What stupid coaching. Rams were lucky to get out of there with a win. I'm still a bit puzzled why so many "experts" have them penciled in to win the Super Bowl. Still, they did what it took to win I guess.

Bears offense completely collapsing against the Packers so far. They have had a season of comebacks, let's see if they can do it again.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Not methinking the end of the game was counting down and wondering why Bears weren’t using their timeouts only for it to be the third quarter.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Let's see if the Packers are as stupid as the Panthers were and play their own prevent defense and give the game away to the Bears. They sure are doing their best here towards the end.

 

[Nomad]

C'mon Alpe, that's a total choke job by Young failing to either win or tie the game there at the end. Down 34-31 & just needing a damn FG to tie, he gets the ball at his own 25 with 38 seconds & 3 TOs - that's an eternity by NFL standards. But he chokes & doesn't look like his head is into the game mismanaging the clock & TOs. He only needed about 37 yds for the FG attempt & he had the whole field to work with (he kept throwing to the sidelines as if he had no TOs left). Keep in mind - he's a #1 OA & Heisman winner in the league now for 3 yrs.

OTOH, we saw a Tier 1 QB in action -- a 37 yr old with a bad back nonetheless. I knew with 2 minutes left & needing a TD to take the lead, Stafford would have no problem chewing up the defense & easily getting the score. And I think Stafford might have been playing with some injured fingers on this throwing hand when a pass got deflected by pass rusher where his fingers impacted with the defender's forearm. Also, great game by Nucua catching 10 passes & a score.

Didn't see any of the Bears-Packers game, so I can't comment other than Ben Johnson getting a playoff win in his first year is very impressive.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

What a way to blow a game by the Packers. Dominating most of it, only to give up 25 points in the fourth quarter. Unreal.

Young sure choked away the first game. But it was really the Panthers deciding to play prevent defense with over two minutes to go, and letting Stafford march down the field in 10-20 yard chunks, and burn time off the clock.