Nationaly of the world champions

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I would argue that you can't get any more non-european than the USA, just go there and race bikes, you will see. it's easy as a kid to be a bike racer in Belgium, NL, Italy, France, not in America. and for a rider to come to Europe and make it as a pro is just as hard for an American as it is for any other non-euro rider.
so yes, there has been 3 non-european rainbows in the peloton, Evans, Armstrong, and LeMond
 
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So lets get this right, Russia is in Europe, Turkey is in Europe, and America and Australia are basically European..

Seriously, someone needs to read some geography books.
 
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TeamSkyFans said:
So lets get this right, Russia is in Europe, Turkey is in Europe, and America and Australia are basically European..

Seriously, someone needs to read some geography books.

Europe isn't defined by geographic boundaries. If you read the EU constitution, there's just no way you can ever include a country like Russia. Europe is a term that has changed meaning over the centuries and will continue to do so in the future. I would have no problem including Asia Minor with Europe. It's always had a lot of interaction with continental Europe.
 
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El Pistolero said:
Europe isn't defined by geographic boundaries. If you read the EU constitution, there's just no way you can ever include a country like Russia. Europe is a term that has changed meaning over the centuries and will continue to do so in the future. I would have no problem including Asia Minor with Europe. It's always had a lot of interaction with continental Europe.

The EU is not all of Europe (it is a politcal union of 27 countries with the outermost region of the EU is Reunion of the East coast of Africa).
The Ural Mountains and the Bosporus are generally regarded as dividing the European and Asian continents.
Turkey is in both Europe and Asia
The UK is in Europe.
 
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avanti said:
The EU is not all of Europe (it is a politcal union of 27 countries with the outermost region of the EU is Reunion of the East coast of Africa).
The Ural Mountains and the Bosporus are generally regarded as dividing the European and Asian continents.
Turkey is in both Europe and Asia
The UK is in Europe.

isn't ancara the only city in the world that is "divided" by the two mentioned continents?
 
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isn't ancara the only city in the world that is "divided" by the two mentioned continents?

Ancara is in the middle of Turkey. You're talking about Byzantium/Constantinopel/Istanbul(or whatever the hell you want to call it) which is indeed a city that spans over geographical Europe and Asia minor.

Is it the only city in the world that's spread over 2 continents? Well, technically speaking it's on the same continent: Eurasia. I don't know if there are any other cities, perhaps somewhere in Egypt between Asia and Africa.
 
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avanti said:
The EU is not all of Europe (it is a politcal union of 27 countries with the outermost region of the EU is Reunion of the East coast of Africa).
The Ural Mountains and the Bosporus are generally regarded as dividing the European and Asian continents.
Turkey is in both Europe and Asia
The UK is in Europe.

Yes, but that's an arbitrary border. In the late middle ages no one considered the great plains of Russia to be European. I know Russia is included in the modern meaning of the word, I just don't agree with that. This whole Europe thing is fake anyway, it's not a continent and never will be.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uBcq1x7P34

If continent is used as a geographic term, there's absolutely no reason to segregate Turkey and Russia from the countries to their west. And culturally/historically there is neither imo.

Although I don't see how any of that matters to the question in the OP (which itself could've been answered by checking wikipedia for two minutes), so I don't know what this is all really about.
 
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Im just confused by this whole, why do people from outside of Europe, Russia, parts of Asia, America, and Australia not win the world championships.

Its almost like asking why Celtic have never won the FA Cup.

Apart of course from the fact that in the TT's and U23 its innacurate