No way the clinic is clean!

[Fortyninefourteen]

Thank God they are destroying the clinic's bloodbags. Ouff....

 

[gooner]

So who's in the clean new generation amongst us?

 

[Dr. Maserati]

I know a lot of people would have you believe that the Clinic has changed, and now it's capable to compete in the cut-throat world of the forum clean, but if you aren't so utopian a quick glance at the recent posting history would tell you otherwise. The same names keep cropping up, many of whom have served suspensions yet continue to post at the same rate they did pre-ban, sometimes even more prolifically. I ask you, is that really normal? A super-peaker like Galic Ho will come in, obliterate everybody with a series of 500-word posts in a span of a few hours, then disappear offline for weeks at a time. If that's not super-peaking, then I ask you what is? A guy like TFF can take a suspension, then return with some second-tier lower-rated post count, and nobody bats an eyelid, but young clean posters like Airstream coming in aren't entering the dream world of professional sport forums that they might imagine, instead they find themselves drawn into a tangled web of deceit and posting-enhancing drugs foisted upon them by unrepentant posters like Mrs John Murphy and corrupt doctors like Dr Maserati (I mean, he's even been suspended from Clinic activity himself, so association with him is a pretty clear red flag for any poster indulging in lengthy or inflammatory posts). A guy like The Hog somehow manages to get himself embroiled into nearly every scandal in the book, but somehow he always finds himself back in the fold where his enhanced posting that excites and infuriates so many with its dramatic, explosive sarcasm can influence the development of naïve, impressionable posters, and before you know it, their post counts are soaring whilst engaging in endless aggressive back and forth in the Clinic. And people will shake their heads in disbelief and know that things haven't changed at all, and as long as the CNM (Cycling News Mods) are in charge here, will things change? That's what the CCN (Change the Clinic Now) movement was for, but it appears to have stumbled against the heavyweight onslaught of Clinicians. Of course, it doesn't help that you have new posters such as Joachim claiming to be part of the new clean revolution, yet putting in marathon hours at the forum, trading attack after attack and going toe to toe even with known clinically-enhanced posters like BroDeal and thehog. I mean, really, we're supposed to believe that's clean? Give me a break.

That's notwithstanding a number of posters who keep on going without suspension, and it's pretty unbelievable that some of them are posting with nigh on nothing against their name. How the hell guys like The Hitch can have evaded capture for so long I'll never know. Of course with others like hrotha and Zam_Olyas, it's more obvious, as it falls to the national posting authorities to sanction the posters, and we all know the southern Europeans go soft on enhanced posters (and of course, Zam is on a second-tier postcount after retiring the zamasailo account, so is not subject to as many stringent tests under the Posting Passport). But look at the amount of Clinic posts they have, some of them of the kind of length, detail and smackdownery that surely nobody could believe are plausible clean. But there they are, 5,99P/day, regular as clockwork, within the boundaries of human achievement, so you know, maybe they are clean... but the performances sure don't look it. And with many characters readily associating themselves with known enhanced posters, there is a reputational risk to be had.

But let's not kid ourselves that this is just a problem for the Clinic. The problem is everywhere. A guy like Ryo Hazuki only crops up in Clinic discussions from time to time, but he's been caught in more mod stings than most, from within the confines of the PRR forum. A guy like DAOTEC racked up the wins (of the internet) seldom ever venturing into the Clinic, but was still found to be one of the most enhanced posters the forum had ever seen, and the last we saw he was forced down to a third tier postcount trying gamely to compete in short, unfriendly threads in PRR, a far cry from his enhanced glory days. And what of a guy like Frank Day? I mean, it's one thing for a poster to be taking something to help them not get dropped by the amped-up specialists in the Clinic, but doping to crank out hundreds of posts beating up on part-timers in the Form & Fitness board is a whole other level.

No, the Clinic may profess to be improving with regards to cracking down on the dirty posting and posters, but I'll believe it when I see it.

Everyone does it.

 

[Athame]

.............High as Kite...

 

[sittingbison]

otra pregunta

 

[mkaleborn]

I've thought long and hard about joining the ranks of the pro-Clinic crowd. I've done pretty well in small-time local criticisms on doping-related issues, sparred with others in one-day forum flamewars, heck I even created my own Lance-on-Oprah drinking game for our club (yes we were all plasterd before the first commercial break).

I've seen the unbelievable dedication to your craft that many of you regular Clinic posters exhibit. But the closer I get to turning pro, the more horrified I am at what I'd have to become, what I'd have to do, in order to succeed here.

You people have a virtual pharmacy full of Flamewar Enhancing Drugs floating in your system here. I see IV bags full of strawmen, syringes dripping with ad hominems and ego boosters, don't even get me started on the vials full of either/or logical fallacies spilling out of every sarcastic link to 3rd hand misinformation. This place is rife with nuveau cheaters and past-their-prime legends still popping the bitter tablets of disdain and demagoguery for that one final shot at Clinic glory.

My quest for the Yell-Louder jersey is over before it's even begun. I swore to my parents I wouldn't betray my core values and dishonour my family for a simple shot at being a hero on an Internet discussion board.

You can tell me all about how you stopped posting drivel and hereseay back in 2006 all you want. I can see what's going on with my own eyes, and this place is still dirty.

Now, before one of you texts my wife to "lurk, don't post", I will do exactly that.

Farewell Clinic, deep down I'm still an idealist who believes in miracles. But at some point you have to realize the board you love so much will do you more harm then good in the long run...

 

[Jack (6 ch)]

Posting is slower now than in 2008. Proves the forum is cleaner.

 

[Amsterhammer]

I know a lot of people would have you believe that the Clinic has changed,...... snip...........

No, the Clinic may profess to be improving with regards to cracking down on the dirty posting and posters, but I'll believe it when I see it.

Comedy gold, LS! Chapeau.

Lots of other good stuff here too, a big hand to all those who take the p!ss out of themselves too.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Just need a good altitude camp on El Teide for the clinic, no more no less

 

[thehog]

Just need a good altitude camp on El Teide for the clinic, no more no less

All my posts are posted at high altitude.

 

[taiwan]

I've thought long and hard about joining the ranks of the pro-Clinic crowd. I've done pretty well in small-time local criticisms on doping-related issues, sparred with others in one-day forum flamewars, heck I even created my own Lance-on-Oprah drinking game for our club (yes we were all plasterd before the first commercial break).

I've seen the unbelievable dedication to your craft that many of you regular Clinic posters exhibit. But the closer I get to turning pro, the more horrified I am at what I'd have to become, what I'd have to do, in order to succeed here.

You people have a virtual pharmacy full of Flamewar Enhancing Drugs floating in your system here. I see IV bags full of strawmen, syringes dripping with ad hominems and ego boosters, don't even get me started on the vials full of either/or logical fallacies spilling out of every sarcastic link to 3rd hand misinformation. This place is rife with nuveau cheaters and past-their-prime legends still popping the bitter tablets of disdain and demagoguery for that one final shot at Clinic glory.

My quest for the Yell-Louder jersey is over before it's even begun. I swore to my parents I wouldn't betray my core values and dishonour my family for a simple shot at being a hero on an Internet discussion board.

You can tell me all about how you stopped posting drivel and hereseay back in 2006 all you want. I can see what's going on with my own eyes, and this place is still dirty.

Now, before one of you texts my wife to "lurk, don't post", I will do exactly that.

Farewell Clinic, deep down I'm still an idealist who believes in miracles. But at some point you have to realize the board you love so much will do you more harm then good in the long run...

That's some pretty incisive criticism tbh.

 

[oldcrank]

I see a lot of bad and abnormal reasoning and there is no way that half of the people here are not on drugs.

Not me, I have an aversion to needles.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Weezer - We Are All On Drugs

 

[Fortyninefourteen]

What has helped me a lot was improving my keystroke speed, and gently moving my fingers rather than just stopping after a tough, long post.

 

[Tour_de_Calvados]

Train high, post low...

 

[will10]

Do we have a post of the year on the CN forum? Cos Libertine just won. Amazing.

 

[Netserk]

Libertine would dominate Vos style

 

[Frosty]

Hey guys, doping here isnt a simple matter of right or wrong morally. I mean imagine all those years in your youth spent not going to parties in the evening but staying in, doing your english homework and improving your key speed only to find out that others are doing better through illegal means, typing your good posts before you can get there and getting your +1s? Who is to say what is right morally in that situation?

 

[Caruut]

When I do drugs I'm having far too much to post on CN.

 

[Caruut]

Do we have a post of the year on the CN forum? Cos Libertine just won. Amazing.

Please, the guy's probably got the top 10. So obvious.

 

[Athame]

All my posts are posted at high altitude.

or while you're sleeping in your own hypobaric chamber, right? Wait, ah, . . .

 

[Athame]

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[doperhopper]

from today's newsreel

Prudhomme: It's not for me to guarantee a clean Clinic Forum

Says cycling has moved on from PostStrong

Christian Prudhomme said that Clinic is no longer "the little ugly duckling" insisting that the Forum has moved on following the Unihander PostStrong affair.

"We can't keep an image in the media from the past in what's happening now. The Clinic is not a perfect world, but it's changed."

 

[ElChingon]

who are the 12 Apostles of the Clinic?

I'll start;

RaceRadio = St.Paul

Looks like your guess was wrong

 

[rinse clear]

Joined the clinic a couple weeks ago dont know if my doping program is working yet