Official lance armstrong thread, part 2 (from september 2012)

[LauraLyn]

And just think when Wiggins gets busted he gets to give his Tour title to Froome!

You can't say that Froome hasn't been waiting for Wiggins since 12 July to hand over the title.

 

[benny_profane]

Anyone given him a ring yet?

pretty weird http://deadspin.com/5943151/?utm_ca...source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

 

[Racelap]

pretty weird http://deadspin.com/5943151/?utm_ca...source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

Sounds like the Tyler guy likes to troll athletes. He previously tweeted a message that "told Tim Tebow he hopes he gets paralyzed." He also previously tweeted his own phone number.

I'm speculating that Tyler sent Lance a nasty tweet and that Lance or his goons noticed it and re-tweeted his number as a form of retaliation.

 

[benny_profane]

Sounds like the Tyler guy likes to troll athletes. He previously tweeted a message that "told Tim Tebow he hopes he gets paralyzed." He also previously tweeted his own phone number.

I'm speculating that Tyler sent Lance a nasty tweet and that Lance or his goons noticed it and re-tweeted his number as a form of retaliation.

That makes sense, particularly as the last guy he followed on Twitter was Armstrong, but I wonder how Lance got his number. Such a petty act would be quite in character though.

 

[the big ring]

That makes sense, particularly as the last guy he followed on Twitter was Armstrong, but I wonder how Lance got his number. Such a petty act would be quite in character though.

Tyler tweeted it, apparently.

 

[LauraLyn]

This from Sports Illustrated on Tuesday:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/basketball/ncaa/09/10/harvard-casey/index.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/12/e...g-suspects-go-on-leave.html?_r=1&ref=cheating

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2012/9/12/platt-letter-reveals-scandal/

http://www.boston.com/news/local/ma...allegations/Ydwv6tsHQyKgbs84GSr6KK/story.html

There is quite a bit here that seems similar to Lance Armstrong: avoiding sanctions, omerta, potential involvement of the organization (Harvard University) in a cover-up.

 

[Bosco10]

A blatant center-line violation at age 15 in a Bermuda Triathlon at minute 3. Tri-hero Mike Pigg calls him on it and is promptly told to #uck off.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HorLQHQ3pMc

Wonderboy aside, love the bikes! Thin tubing, fancy lug-work, downtube shifters and more! Bikes were 'low tech' back then, but they were awfully beautiful.

 

[Tinman]

The Feds: “We didn’t limit our options, in case significant new developments warranted action on our part.”

http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoo...e-Armstrong-Will-Never-Give-In.html?169561666

from RR's twitter page earlier today.

 

[mewmewmew13]

The Feds: “We didn’t limit our options, in case significant new developments warranted action on our part.”

http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoo...e-Armstrong-Will-Never-Give-In.html?169561666

from RR's twitter page earlier today.

Yeah! This gave me goosebumps

 

[ScienceIsCool]

Anyone given him a ring yet?

The area code is in the Greater Vancouver area - my home. I doubt Lance has a phone/cell here...

John Swanson

 

[BroDeal]

A blatant center-line violation at age 15 in a Bermuda Triathlon at minute 3. Tri-hero Mike Pigg calls him on it and is promptly told to #uck off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HorLQHQ3pMc

I think it is amazing what a total d-bag Armstrong was right from the beginning. I remember that shortly after he got to Europe, he blew a snot rocket that hit Moreno Argentin on the leg. When Argentin complained, Armstrong gave him the "who the fck are you" treatment. He has been a self-entitled ass his entire life.

 

[the big ring]

A blatant center-line violation at age 15 in a Bermuda Triathlon at minute 3. Tri-hero Mike Pigg calls him on it and is promptly told to #uck off.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HorLQHQ3pMc

Sounded more like p*ss off to me.

And really, with a scooter already on the wrong side of the road, and 2 triathletes blocking the road, I'm sorry but I would have done the same thing and responded the same way when one of them had a whinge.

If the scooter was on the correct side of the road, it was drafting the triathletes.

 

[Galic Ho]

I am new to this forum, but have looked at relevant (public) data, and observe some interesting features about the environment around the time of Armstrong's return in 1999. You can find it at

http://www.phys.washington.edu/users/savage/Cycling/LookingAtTheData/AIC.html

if you are interested.

Very good article. Graphical representation is very clear. Cycling had a major drug boom in the 90s. Was very bad around Armstrong's reign and the sport is still much faster and dirtier than the 80s.

So much for clean cycling. I can already hear the moaning and objections some people will make if this gets a thread of it's own.

One thing I always had an issue with was the notion Boardman was always clean. His later OHR times show he was quite clearly on the juice, such was his performance increase from his battles with Obree.

 

[Galic Ho]

A blatant center-line violation at age 15 in a Bermuda Triathlon at minute 3. Tri-hero Mike Pigg calls him on it and is promptly told to #uck off.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HorLQHQ3pMc

Good video. Gotta love Armstrong's running form in the video. Horrible. Just horrible. Always was and has been a horrible runner. Hence why he got shin splints in his marathon running after the first second retirement.

Final retirement he gets a lot faster in triathlons. Especially his running. Doping helps with **** poor form. Watching him run is actually painful.

As for the arrogance aspect. Lol. No shock there.

 

[the big ring]

One thing I always had an issue with was the notion Boardman was always clean. His later OHR times show he was quite clearly on the juice, such was his performance increase from his battles with Obree.

Darryl Webster doesn't.

Kinda handy to have UK rider Boardman as an IP / TT specialist to provide proof / benchmarking for Wiggins, yes?

 

[Galic Ho]

Darryl Webster doesn't.

Kinda handy to have UK rider Boardman as an IP / TT specialist to provide proof / benchmarking for Wiggins, yes?

His earlier times with Obree I can buy, but the later ones after Indurain and Rominger? Hell no.

Darryl does know quite a bit about what went on behind the scenes in the UK. His posts are always enlightening on the matter.

As for Wiggins, are you suggesting Boardman is an adviser to Sky? Damn!!! If that is the case. Hadn't heard that. Heard a lot of other dodgy names Darryl has mentioned as a DS or coach being linked, but never Boardman. As I said, he tends to have a rep around here that he was clean. That link makes me think yes that is true to begin with, but not later on. Too much of an improvement in relation to Indurain.

Regarding those ITT graphs. The bit I loved wasn't the comparison with LA and everyone else. It was when the shift happened, when Indurain was winning. LA was racing then. Getting thumped by 6 minutes in a long chrono. Just thinking where that puts him in relation to his Tour wins is mind boggling. Worlds apart. But that isn't covered in that link. Still stunning when one thinks about it.

 

[the big ring]

His earlier times with Obree I can buy, but the later ones after Indurain and Rominger? Hell no.

Darryl does know quite a bit about what went on behind the scenes in the UK. His posts are always enlightening on the matter.

As for Wiggins, are you suggesting Boardman is an adviser to Sky? Damn!!! If that is the case. Hadn't heard that. Heard a lot of other dodgy names Darryl has mentioned as a DS or coach being linked, but never Boardman. As I said, he tends to have a rep around here that he was clean. That link makes me think yes that is true to begin with, but not later on. Too much of an improvement in relation to Indurain.

Regarding those ITT graphs. The bit I loved wasn't the comparison with LA and everyone else. It was when the shift happened, when Indurain was winning. LA was racing then. Getting thumped by 6 minutes in a long chrono. Just thinking where that puts him in relation to his Tour wins is mind boggling. Worlds apart. But that isn't covered in that link. Still stunning when one thinks about it.

No. acoggan brings Boardman up a few times when he's not defending Wiggins as an example of what's possible physiologically. I think Krebs Cycle does too - when he's not defending Wiggins either.

That graphs were good. The conclusion was pure fanboi.

 

[the big ring]

His earlier times with Obree I can buy, but the later ones after Indurain and Rominger? Hell no.

He dropped 20 seconds or so in a year to 4:24, then did 4:11 as superman, but claimed he could have done 4:13/4:14 on a normal bike. But never pursuited again to show the truth of this. Meanwhile, everyone else slowly worked their way down from 4:23 to 4:16 over the next 6-8 years.

There's no good time data for LA is there? Would be interesting to see his time for the bike leg of the tris he did as a younger athlete.

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

Stay on topic, please.

Susan

 

[armchairclimber]

As he has just tweeted his cellphone number, you can ask LANCE questions directly.

 

[sittingbison]

As he has just tweeted his cellphone number, you can ask LANCE questions directly.

AM: "You have reached Lance Armstrong - please leave a message after the seven beeps"

 

[hrotha]

That makes sense, particularly as the last guy he followed on Twitter was Armstrong, but I wonder how Lance got his number. Such a petty act would be quite in character though.

Arsehole-Ty is apparently from Toronto, ON, but the number is from New Westminster, BC.

 

[Benotti69]

Very good article. Graphical representation is very clear. Cycling had a major drug boom in the 90s. Was very bad around Armstrong's reign and the sport is still much faster and dirtier than the 80s.

So much for clean cycling. I can already hear the moaning and objections some people will make if this gets a thread of it's own.

One thing I always had an issue with was the notion Boardman was always clean. His later OHR times show he was quite clearly on the juice, such was his performance increase from his battles with Obree.

marginal gains, harder training, warm downs, ice vests, rice cakes, skinsuits blah blah blah blah......

I am tired of BS that the sport is cleaner. While it is not a fast it definitely is not cleaner.

That the riders are underweight and still have huge power outputs speaks of the doping.

It would appear the difference is the ability to perfect the wieghtloss coupled with no loss of power or an increase. Something that the Armstrong era never had to worry about in such a precise manner.

 

[Von Mises]

Very good article. Graphical representation is very clear. Cycling had a major drug boom in the 90s. Was very bad around Armstrong's reign and the sport is still much faster and dirtier than the 80s.

So much for clean cycling. I can already hear the moaning and objections some people will make if this gets a thread of it's own.

Yeah, and if you cut off everything what happened after 1990, you can easily conclude that cycling was much faster and dirtier in the 80s, than the 70s, and much faster and dirtier in the the 70s than the 60s etc etc

 

[Stingray34]

Is Lance up to his old tricks, posting a detractor's number on twitter to overload his inbox? This time he outdid himself, claiming it was his own number.

I wonder if Lance still likes to play 'knock and run' on the front doors of people in Austin. How about the old 'setting fire to a bag of turd' trick?