Official lance armstrong thread, part 2 (from september 2012)

[poupou]

We should remember that the first to have dropped Lance Armstrong a long time ago was cancer.

 

[mikkemus23]

Stole this from the webz - A LA tell all book (not about doping but his mental http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Sf06rOBToU0/UH7dtpMEq6I/AAAAAAAAHK0/woeSFRVnK9E/s640/28a85qf.jpg)

 

[jackwolf]

It make take a few months for it to happen, but it will. It was a mistake to link the brand so closely to the person.

Wrong: the brand only exists because of the person, and Armstrong has benefitted enormously from him being hardly distinguishable from the charity. That was, at the end of the day, the only reason for the charity's existence. I don't give it more than a couple of months before it disintegrates.

 

[ggusta]

Forbes article: Armstrong Will Lose $150 Million in Future Earnings

http://www.forbes.com/sites/prishe/...wittersf&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

This article is by Patrick Rishe,

First couple paragraphs.....

With Wednesday’s announcement, Nike effectively achieved something cancer could not. To kill Lance Armstrong.
Nike dropping Lance Armstrong as a product endorser has begun to (and will continue to result in) a mass exodus of corporate support that will eventually cost the former cycling champion over $150 million in career endorsement earnings potential.
For his own sake, I hope Lance Armstrong hid his past endorsement earnings as well as his doping regimen. '

 

[thehog]

Did this get posted?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ot...l-or-quit-in-order-to-save-world-cycling.html

Australian Jaimie Fuller, whose SKINS company is a partner of the elite Rabobank team and Cycling Australia among others, has written an open letter to McQuaid warning of catastrophic consequences to the body's "inertia".

The UCI has yet to rule on the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency's report into Armstrong, which alleges that the now retired seven-times Tour de France champion achieved his success on the back of a highly sophisticated doping scheme.

"I'm just devastated and horrified by what has happened," Fuller said.

"The initial response of the UCI to USADA was defensive and questioning, not cooperative, and the longer the subsequent silence goes on it's getting much worse for the sport of cycling.

"I'm an optimist and I would desperately hope that common sense will see the light of day.

"(But) if Mr McQuaid and his cohorts are not prepared to say what they are going to do about this systemic issue, to rip the scabs off of what has happened, there is no question they should resign."

Fuller said SKINS, which produces therapeutic compression clothing for athletes, would have to reconsider its association with cycling if the UCI failed to act.

 

[Mach Schnell]

Ah the subtle nuances of The Law
Whats really friggin funny about this whole mess is that dirty little cheats like Millar can now come back and pontificate over the whole sordid mess
Oh, but wait! He repented, he drank the cool aid and professed his love for Jesus, no, wait, wrong inquisition!
I love this stuff.
Here's the easy, quick and dirty.
Put a big asterix besides all the EPO years (they all did it, so how can it be cheating??) and move on.
If He Who Shall Not Be Named sponsors want to sure him, let 'em. Thats some serious firepower right there, and let USADA and the other inquisitors sit back and enjoy the show.
On another note, man, this forum feels like a separate reality Everytime I come here, it feels like Ground Hog Day.
Does anyone here ever ride??

 

[D Avoid]

Live now for 10 minuteshttp://www.rte.ie/radio/radiopla ... ml#!rii=9%3A%2D2%3A0%3A%3A

 

[Baroh1488]

http://youtu.be/BlMf0ApPeyE

I don't know if this has been posted but i have never seen it before. Very interesting. It is Lance Armstrongs court hearing from 2005. As someone else pointed out, anyone who told the truth would simply say "No, I didn't take any PED's". Armstrong on the other hand gives long explanations on how it can be proven he didn't take anything? Wouldn't that be irrelevant if you were telling the truth?

 

[webvan]

Yeah that made the round last year I think.

@D Avoid - thanks for the link, it got cut off, here it is again : http://www.rte.ie/radio/radioplayer/rteradioweb.html#!rii=9:-2:0::

 

[Zultronova]

Live now for 10 minuteshttp://www.rte.ie/radio/radiopla ... %3A0%3A%3A

Choose RTE Radio 1.

 

[D Avoid]

According to the report, when Armstrong took out a case to stop USADA investigation the judge complained that USADA did not supply enough information and Armstrong's team supplied to much "waffle" > it is borderline hysterical.


There will be a podcast later and I'll find it and put it up. It can also be found on the"sport at seven" section of RTE radio 1, Ireland's biggest and also government funded radio station, with a dash of licence fee.


http://www.rte.ie/sport/features/2012/0320/313130-sport-at-7/

Very good!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7zL5km6mUo
It can be pretty good but when they keep it all in house they are dreadful



Classic example would be Jimmy Magee commentating on the Nissan Classic in the 80's, worse than anything the English can throw up, even that doddery old chap, wots 'is face, David Duffield?



I'm really tired after 5 hours sleep and a 3 hour training ride so trying to rush a link was difficult!!



My ability to miss hear say Mr Dennehy said "a lot of hard work and *edication"!!Could be where Lances life got mispronounced!!

 

[perfessor]

The paid spreaders of disinformation, and image redemption are still going after it in the comments at Velonews:
http://velonews.competitor.com/2012...gs-tour-wins-is-a-messy-necessary-step_261814

 

[Dear Wiggo]

The paid spreaders of disinformation, and image redemption are still going after it in the comments at Velonews:
http://velonews.competitor.com/2012...gs-tour-wins-is-a-messy-necessary-step_261814

Bahahahahha I am a lawyer and knew by 2005 Lance was doped to the gills. So USADA are naughty for not pursuing him then.

Ignoring the UCI elephant in the room.

All those "I am also a lawyer" dudes are looking shillic.

And the dipstick who has eye witnesses of Lemond doping - doesn't he know about the $300k reward? Man alive.

 

[perfessor]

Bahahahahha I am a lawyer and knew by 2005 Lance was doped to the gills. So USADA are naughty for not pursuing him then.

Ignoring the UCI elephant in the room.

All those "I am also a lawyer" dudes are looking shillic.

And the dipstick who has eye witnesses of Lemond doping - doesn't he know about the $300k reward? Man alive.

I just couldn't believe how obvious it was --a whole string of the same tired stuff in a row;

 

[Dear Wiggo]

I just couldn't believe how obvious it was --a whole string of the same tired stuff in a row;

Completely agree. It's so obvious when you get them all clumped together like that.

Patterns. Again.

 

[mewmewmew13]

http://youtu.be/BlMf0ApPeyE

I don't know if this has been posted but i have never seen it before. Very interesting. It is Lance Armstrongs court hearing from 2005. As someone else pointed out, anyone who told the truth would simply say "No, I didn't take any PED's". Armstrong on the other hand gives long explanations on how it can be proven he didn't take anything? Wouldn't that be irrelevant if you were telling the truth?

They are all listed with testimony on the nyvelocity.com website...
The tapes are fascinating for how crude Armstrong acts.

 

[onimod]

They are all listed with testimony on the nyvelocity.com website...
The tapes are fascinating for how crude Armstrong acts.

agreed - his behaviour is fascinatingly amusing

 

[Zultronova]

The USADA boss behind the hunt for Lance Armstrong :

http://www.news.com.au/sport/more-s...-lance-armstrong/story-fndukor0-1226498991708

 

[Mestre]

Armstrong dropped from World Business Forum México DF 2012

That bit at the bottom of the page, at the bottom of the bit where the fotos of the speakers are, the white bit.

www.wobi.com/es/event/world-business-forum-m%C3%A9xico-df-2012

The empty bit.

That's Lance's foto.

Was.

 

[veganrob]

They are all listed with testimony on the nyvelocity.com website...
The tapes are fascinating for how crude Armstrong acts.

This could be a reason Armstrong might want to avoid lie detector test. He tries to avoid adressing questions directly but rather gives some fuzzy comments that don't really answer the question. He is an expert in evasive behaviour or trying to turn the focus on one doing the questioning.

 

[jam pants]

This could be a reason Armstrong might want to avoid lie detector test. He tries to avoid adressing questions directly but rather gives some fuzzy comments that don't really answer the question. He is an expert in evasive behaviour or trying to turn the focus on one doing the questioning.

Can we stop talking about polygraphs as if they were anything more than parlor tricks?

 

[Race Radio]

Why doesn't Kristen talk about the claims she was a drug mule?
http://milemarkers.runnersworld.com/

I am constrained by legal principles like martial privilege, confidentiality and non-disclosure agreements

 

[IFRider]

Does this read a little like a veiled hint?

When I wrote my first article for Runner’s World, I described how I carried an invisible pack of sadness over all those miles in my first marathon. I never said exactly what was in that pack, nor do I need to. Sadness sums it up pretty well.

 

[thehog]

Why doesn't Kristen talk about the claims she was a drug mule?
http://milemarkers.runnersworld.com/

Oh god please. Get rid of her. The pain, the pain. You're a drug mule. Plain and simple.




(Thanks Mr. Walsh)

I know what truth is. I know my past. Not telling or selling my tales to the press is my choice - one that I made primarily for my children. And there are many things that I am not free to discuss because I am constrained by legal principles like martial privilege, confidentiality and non-disclosure agreements. And frankly, I am thankful for that, because my energy and focus need to be directed towards my children. To the world, Lance may be a source of admiration or suspicion, but to me he is simply my wasband and the father of my children. His choices were, and are, his.

 

[cocteau_ireland]

Some opportunities exist for Lance's big Livestrong gig tonight in his backyard. Speakers include Ben stiller (to open the the school for cyclists who can't bleed good n stuff?) Or maybe Robin Williams will do his Good will hunting 'it's ok,it's ok' bit with an in tatters lance at his armpit?