Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession)

[mewmewmew13]

Love your response Granville (DB)

I'm in that kinda mood today about it too!
fecker!

 

[mewmewmew13]

Nothing says good publicity like getting the thumbs up from a rapist.

Lol!!

 

[MarkvW]

The Lance interview does apparently dispel the theory that Lance Armstrong "had something" on Pat McQuaid. Looks like all Lance has for Pat McQuaid is a lot of anger.

Lance is mad that Pat didn't rescue him. That's transparently obvious to me.

 

[RetroActive]

The Lance interview does apparently dispel the theory that Lance Armstrong "had something" on Pat McQuaid. Looks like all Lance has for Pat McQuaid is a lot of anger.

Lance is mad that Pat didn't rescue him. That's transparently obvious to me.

I wondered if it wasn't a shot across the bow at Pat. Perhaps the next stage in his process.

 

[blackcat]

a spot of tea, sir?

its 3 Cups of Tea

 

[Oldman]

I wondered if it wasn't a shot across the bow at Pat. Perhaps the next stage in his process.

The next stage is the evidence he'll negotiate with. I still smell a GJ or other issue pending for the others involved and Lance needs a Get out of Jail Free.
I do agree that he feels like a scapegoat.
His indictment of other eras clearly says that, while he's not going to tattle on other riders he's still going to implicate other champions to preserve his deluded "level playing field" and his view of his place in history.
It's good he's done. Hopefully there will be diminishing interviews as he's not going to add to the solution.

 

[Oldman]

Just for the record Roche never tested positive.....just saying.

But his appearance on camera after his Tour preserving collapse and a night in the "hospital" said it all: How do you feel Stephen/ "Like new".

 

[RetroActive]

The next stage is the evidence he'll negotiate with. I still smell a GJ or other issue pending for the others involved and Lance needs a Get out of Jail Free.
I do agree that he feels like a scapegoat.
His indictment of other eras clearly says that, while he's not going to tattle on other riders he's still going to implicate other champions to preserve his deluded "level playing field" and his view of his place in history.
It's good he's done. Hopefully there will be diminishing interviews as he's not going to add to the solution.

That's what I figue too, thanks for the memories Pat and Hein they'll come in handy.

Has Pharmstrong ever given an exclusive to CN before? If no then

 

[ChewbaccaD]

The Lance interview does apparently dispel the theory that Lance Armstrong "had something" on Pat McQuaid. Looks like all Lance has for Pat McQuaid is a lot of anger.

Lance is mad that Pat didn't rescue him. That's transparently obvious to me.

I wonder if he meant to confirm that Pat knew about his doping "a long time ago?"

 

[MarkvW]

I wonder if he meant to confirm that Pat knew about his doping "a long time ago?"

I'm sure that Pat and Lance have been on "wink and a nod" terms for quite some time.

 

[Fausto's Schnauzer]

Livestrong / armstrong survey

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[DirtyWorks]

The next stage is the evidence he'll negotiate with. I still smell a GJ or other issue pending for the others involved and Lance needs a Get out of Jail Free.

Spot on. He's trying, that is for sure.

 

[Fatclimber]

Mike Tyson comes to Lance defense describing him as an "awesome human being".

http://m.cbsnews.com/storysynopsis....an-being/&feed_id=1&videoid=37&catid=57566728

Always thought Tyson used some heavy anabolics myself, looks so much more like a Mr Olympia contestant than boxers from the 70s who trained exactly the same way like Ali, Foreman, Frazier etc.

If it ever got out that he was a user then he'd be a poster boy for the dangers of PEDs being a convicted rapist and all.

I'll see your Mike Tyson and raise a Charlie Sheen:

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=S4EkiLh2yQ4&desktop_uri=/watch?v=S4EkiLh2yQ4

Haha! Go get a paper route dude

 

[Ninety5rpm]

A shrink tries to shed some light on this guy.

How Aggressive Narcissism Explains Lance Armstrong

 

[thirteen]

its 3 Cups of Tea

no, i really did mean a spot of tea... guess i've been going over to the UK too much and the second you get in the door, you're offered a cuppa. and another. and another... and they drink along with you.

think of it as a 20 minute shower you can do with friends and testers

 

[thirteen]

No contrition or humility, just a concentrated PR campaign to play the victim and reduce everything to a bit of doping, just like the others. He is dragging as many as he can into the mess, including some that have never been implicated or convicted of doping. Sick.

I think this is why Tygart is finally going to the media in order to remind the world just what the real issues are.

Sometimes I feel like a lifetime ban wasn't enough.

By the way, Le Monde has picked up on the cyclingnews so called interview.

http://www.lemonde.fr/sport/article...e-generation-n-a-ete-propre_1825037_3242.html

so is it a case of no publicity is bad publicity? i mean, everybody everywhere picked it up... and they're likely to mention it again today with the Rasmussen confession.

it's interesting to look at the timing of all this...

yesterday nobody wanted to talk about LA when i posted the story about the doctor/tester. everybody was sick of him and just disgusted. we would have been happy if i he just shut his hole and put his head in the sand.

that goes for everybody here (Wiggins speculation is obviously a juicier topic, as is the possibilities of the Fuentes trial) and even for the casual sports fans... my boyfriend, who really is doesn't like cycling, went on a tirade about the arrogance and stupidity of LA last night and i hadn't even mentioned the "interview" -- it had been picked up by another outlet. he was incredulous at the audacity of LA... even he gets that it isn't about the doping.

but we're all talking about Lance again which is all he ever wanted.

no one is saying good things, but everyone is talking. why now? what are they scheming? are they trying to make him seem important again to give him some clout -- which he obviously doesn't have anymore?

cycling has moved on and Lance doesn't like it.

 

[SundayRider]

I'm no Armstrong defender at all - wanted him to be 'found out' for years in fact. Let me repeat I am not defending him anyway however there's a lot of self righteousness on here its as if no one one here as ever even told a lie or acted in a way to further their own self interest in their lives. Unfortunately there is lots of people similar to LA in other sports, big business etc.

 

[rhubroma]

I'm no Armstrong defender at all - wanted him to be 'found out' for years in fact. Let me repeat I am not defending him anyway however there's a lot of self righteousness on here its as if no one one here as ever even told a lie or acted in a way to further their own self interest in their lives. Unfortunately there is lots of people similar to LA in other sports, big business etc.

That's because sport is all about money.

The "self-righteousness" of which you speak needs to be properly contextualized, however. Perhaps because cycling has been cast under the doping light as no other sport, it needed one so ruthless as Wonderboy to baldly stand in defiance of truth, and so unscrupulously, who could stand the heat while making anyone pay heavily who said or acted otherwise. Hence the vindication some are feeling for Armstrong being brought to task for his crimes, is in direct proportion to their gravity (which goes way beyond the doping, as has been said) and the fact that he lucratively profiteered off the sick - also in terms of gaining big sponsorship deals - while using them as a shield against his colossal fraud.

I realize that this has already been said in many ways, however, it's thus about corruption, complicity within the sport's governing body and becoming untouchable and the means by which, in order to do this, he bullied, defamed, sued and ruined truth tellers ruthlessly and without compunction, just to maintain a most lucrative lie. You have to be a really bad dude to be able to maintain that for so many years, heartlessly and totally self-serving. Read Hamilton's book and it will let you know just how much of an a$$hole LA could really be and about the devious workings of his mind, a deviousness which he thought justified through a bleak outlook on everyone else and in thinking people's motives were always basically guided by his own meanness. You gotta be crueler, more ruthless, less compassionate, because those mother ****ers are doing everything to get one up on you. This was essentially his life's philosophy and critical worldview, which subsequently has become his prison cell.

 

[doperhopper]

Will Uniballer finally be pushed to tell on UCI? Apart from all the usual BS he does not look like covering Pat's fat ***.



Armstrong: Pat is just in constant CYA (Cover Your ***) mode. Pathetic

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/lance-armstrong-exclusive-interview

 

[SundayRider]

That's because sport is all about money.

The "self-righteousness" of which you speak needs to be properly contextualized, however. Perhaps because cycling has been cast under the doping light as no other sport, it needed one so ruthless as Wonderboy to baldly stand in defiance of truth, and so unscrupulously, who could stand the heat while making anyone pay heavily who said or acted otherwise. Hence the vindication some are feeling for Armstrong being brought to task for his crimes, is in direct proportion to their gravity (which goes way beyond the doping, as has been said) and the fact that he lucratively profiteered off the sick - also in terms of gaining big sponsorship deals - while using them as a shield against his colossal fraud.

I realize that this has already been said in many ways, however, it's thus about corruption, complicity within the sport's governing body and becoming untouchable and the means by which, in order to do this, he bullied, defamed, sued and ruined truth tellers ruthlessly and without compunction, just to maintain a most lucrative lie. You have to be a really bad dude to be able to maintain that for so many years, heartlessly and totally self-serving. Read Hamilton's book and it will let you know just how much of an a$$hole LA could really be and about the devious workings of his mind, a deviousness which he thought justified through a bleak outlook on everyone else and in thinking people's motives were always basically guided by his own meanness. You gotta be crueler, more ruthless, less compassionate, because those mother ****ers are doing everything to get one up on you. This was essentially his life's philosophy and critical worldview, which subsequently has become his prison cell.

Yes I know all about Armstrong. Look at most sports/business - the top levels of anything and it is littered with people who are just like Armstrong, some with much less to gain than he had which kind of makes it worse. I've worked with people who are like miniature versions of LA, all in the hope of a promotion or a pay rise worth a few £K a year, doesn't make it right but its highly unlikely to go away from society.

 

[del1962]

This latest interview from Lance shows that his attitude has not really changed though

 

[Tom T.]

Will Uniballer finally be pushed to tell on UCI? Apart from all the usual BS he does not look like covering Pat's fat ***.



Armstrong: Pat is just in constant CYA (Cover Your ***) mode. Pathetic

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/lance-armstrong-exclusive-interview

The only thing that's pathetic is that interview. Really, that's journalism? Email LA a few questions and take some BS responses written by who knows? No followups? Pathetic.

 

[rhubroma]

Yes I know all about Armstrong. Look at most sports/business - the top levels of anything and it is littered with people who are just like Armstrong, some with much less to gain than he had which kind of makes it worse. I've worked with people who are like miniature versions of LA, all in the hope of a promotion or a pay rise worth a few £K a year, doesn't make it right but its highly unlikely to go away from society.

Oh, I wasn't suggesting that you didn't know about Armstrong. However, casting in a negative light some people's "self-righteousness," simply because everyone has hidden the truth in some shape or form (the proverbial " let he that has not sinned, cast the first stone"), while in this way minimizing the nature and gravity of his lies totally misses the point.

Sure the sporting world is full of cut-throats and people lacking in all morals, though not for this should we have any compassion for one such as Lance. I'm the last to see the world in black and white, though precisely because there are so many levels of nuance, in the devious sense, to his case, lay the reason why the level of condemnation to me is completely justified. Actually the price paid so far, hasn’t yet even come remotely close to the gravity of the crimes.

PS:I find it fabulously ironic that LA now cries scandal in claiming he's become the "scapegoat" of the sport, when he himself vilified Simeoni. Or where was he speaking up in this vein when his rivals and teammates got popped? For that matter, how much did he contribute to enforcing the omertà and silencing others who spoke the truth, or tried to help the sport clean itself up? Indeed what collaborative role had he in the fraudulent behavior of the sport's governing body? In short, how proactive was he in promoting the corruption (among others who obviously must also be sanctioned)?

 

[Briant_Gumble]

The Lance interview does apparently dispel the theory that Lance Armstrong "had something" on Pat McQuaid. Looks like all Lance has for Pat McQuaid is a lot of anger.

Lance is mad that Pat didn't rescue him. That's transparently obvious to me.

He did what he reasonably could making himself look like an absurd fool asking USADA to send him all the evidence and lead the case.

Beyond that he couldn't have done much more for Lance, I wouldn't rule our Lance not knowing about a few skeletons in Pats closet.

The biggest thing Lance has is him meeting Saugy and getting told how the test for EPO works, although this was under Heins leadership, I don't think Lance wants to reveal this as it destroys some of the level playing field arguement.

 

[Fortyninefourteen]

A shrink tries to shed some light on this guy.

How Aggressive Narcissism Explains Lance Armstrong

Interesting read....

The same characteristics as what we also call "Fcuking A55hole' disorder in many parts of Canada.