Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession)

[Benotti69]

Would be great if Lance had some info on Weisel's business dealings. That would be a much larger bomb then the doping stuff.

Yes it would. The Weesils of this world need their comeuppance big time.

 

[Archibald]

Perhaps lance saved emails and is using them as leverage to bring Weisel into the case?

reckon it might be the other way around - TW covering himself in case LA was ever busted or tried something on him...

or, something that TW can use to bargain with the Feds - dump on LA and get immunity for co-operating

honour among thieves n all that

 

[86TDFWinner]

Comedy gold here. Emma thinks Wonderboy deserves a lifetime ban because he was a bully, but then seems to say it's ok.

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news...ng-big-price-bully-148729#8fUso1i3ikjEcu3L.99

 

[Granville57]

Comedy gold here. Emma thinks he desrves a lifetime ban, or does she?

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news...ng-big-price-bully-148729#8fUso1i3ikjEcu3L.99

But O’Reilly feels prohibiting Armstrong from participating in such events may be a step too far.

“It’s a hard one because he did deserve a proper punishment,” she continued. “But say the Gran Fondo event, does that help cycling by not letting a man who can raise a lot of money for a charity? I don’t see how that helps.

And I don't see how that has any relevance. Is there something stopping Lance from putting on his own charity Grand Fondo?

“I don’t agree with ‘an eye for an eye’ – I struggle with that concept – but we should be punished if we do something wrong.

How is Lance's punishment the equivalent of an "eye for an eye"?


Better question: Why I have spent any time on this?

 

[86TDFWinner]

And I don't see how that has any relevance. Is there something stopping Lance from putting on his own charity Grand Fondo?


How is Lance's punishment the equivalent of an "eye for an eye"?


Better question: Why I have spent any time on this?

I was thinking the same things on your questions....all of them

 

[D-Queued]

I was thinking the same things on your questions....all of them

...and I'm reading you both

Dave.

 

[Oldman]

reckon it might be the other way around - TW covering himself in case LA was ever busted or tried something on him...

or, something that TW can use to bargain with the Feds - dump on LA and get immunity for co-operating

honour among thieves n all that

The currency of the Padua investigation along with Popo's confiscated laptop seems to narrow the possibilities to just plain careless saving of emails. Weezil may be named somewhere in communication and Popo felt he needed to cover his ass.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

On a sporting level I think we need to bring back Armstrong.
After the clownish UCI action, I can't see why LA shouldn't compete.
And please don't give me the kindergarten stuff about ring leader, bully etc.

 

[poupou]

On a sporting level I think we need to bring back Armstrong.
After the clownish UCI action, I can't see why LA shouldn't compete.
And please don't give me the kindergarten stuff about ring leader, bully etc.

You cannot bring him back on a sporting level, but only on a cheating level, sure you can.

 

[webvan]

I think that "The Hog" wrote in the Ferrari thread that Dopestrong had given a good summary of the latest scandal, was hoping to see that here but I can't seem to find it, did I misread? Was he saying that nothing had really changed since his time?

 

[pmcg76]

Won't the Ferrari revelations cover a bit of the stuff Armstrong might have to offer the CIRC. I am sure he knows a lot more besides but I imagine the Astana stuff would be part of it.

 

[thehog]

I think that "The Hog" wrote in the Ferrari thread that Dopestrong had given a good summary of the latest scandal, was hoping to see that here but I can't seem to find it, did I misread? Was he saying that nothing had really changed since his time?

Here...

 

[webvan]

Thanks, sounds like sour grapes to me, hehe...

 

[thehog]

Thanks, sounds like sour grapes to me, hehe...

Naturally. But he does have a point. The whole doping ending with Lance thing was getting a litte old.

I guess Armstrong needed the backing of a oil rich former communist country to keep him from being suspended

 

[Race Radio]

Thanks, sounds like sour grapes to me, hehe...

Yeah, it is just odd. I have never seen anyone claim that Travis Tygart fixed the problem for good or that doping ended with Lance. It is a nice strawman though.

 

[veganrob]

Yep, still all about Lance. Waaah. Maybe he could come clean, like all the way clean, and things might be a little different for him.

 

[thehog]

Yep, still all about Lance. Waaah. Maybe he could come clean, like all the way clean, and things might be a little different for him.

I think his statement is actually not about Lance. It's about Vino and the selective process in banning. Armstrong should be banned, absolutely but so should Vino.

It's just that the messenger is a lying sack of ***.

 

[D-Queued]

Thanks, sounds like sour grapes to me, hehe...

Just looked up bitter in the dictionary and saw a picture of Lance.

... Lance, why didn't you pull a DiLuca and get kudos for how much you revealed about doping? You could have been king.

Sniping from the sidelines just shows how small you really are, how little you truly appreciate about the damage that you did and the lack of any remorse whatsoever.

Dave.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Naturally. But he does have a point. The whole doping ending with Lance thing was getting a litte old.

I guess Armstrong needed the backing of a oil rich former communist country to keep him from being suspended

No he doesn't, but you're right, it is getting old watching Lance, and those people who defend Lance, continually make the claim that anyone said doping ended with Armstrong, and that Tygart's motive was to end doping...

Just like Fox News, if you continue to bring it up, and pretend something happened, sooner or later, there are people stupid enough to think that it did.

 

[thehog]

No he doesn't, but you're right, it is getting old watching Lance, and those people who defend Lance, continually make the claim that anyone said doping ended with Armstrong, and that Tygart's motive was to end doping...

Just like Fox News, if you continue to bring it up, and pretend something happened, sooner or later, there are people stupid enough to think that it did.

He does have a point. Vino really shouldn't be in the sport. It's fairly straight forward.

If it came from anyone else it would be 100%. Lance falls on deaf ears for his history.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Here...

 

[ChewbaccaD]

He does have a point. Vino really shouldn't be in the sport. It's fairly straight forward.

If it came from anyone else it would be 100%. Lance falls on deaf ears for his history.

Deservedly so. If it were up to Lance, he'd still be revered by millions, and people like Vino would still be in the sport anyway.

His point was never about Vino, it was about whining about him being caught.

 

[thehog]

Deservedly so. If it were up to Lance, he'd still be revered by millions, and people like Vino would still be in the sport anyway.

His point was never about Vino, it was about whining about him being caught.

That we agree on.

 

[McLovin]

Tonight on HBO it's Stop at nothing. Anyone saw it? Something interesting? Thank you.

 

[Unsytherhino]

Tonight on HBO it's Stop at nothing. Anyone saw it? Something interesting? Thank you.

Watched half of this last night, missed the first 45 minutes or so. Nothing new, just summarises some of what went on, with interviews with Lemond, the Andreus, and some other folks (mostly those who got shafted by LA). Interesting footage of his appearances on the David Letterman show, how he's fawned over by DL, then after the USADA report comes out, the response by DL is "who cares about cycling anyway?"