Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession)

[DirtyWorks]

MM is at it again on Twitter...

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Brian Cookson OBE ‏@cooksonforuci 6h
Tomorrow I will be answering questions via a Twitter Q&A and hearing your ideas for a bright future for cycling! Starts at 4pm (UK time)

Lance Armstrong ‏@lancearmstrong 18m
@cooksonforuci looking forward to that

C'mon Wonderboy! Dig into your backpack of courage and drop some allegations! You can do it bigger and better than Floyd! Waaaay bigger than Hamilton. The NEW doping controversy champion!

 

[thehog]

C'mon Wonderboy! Dig into your backpack of courage and drop some allegations! You can do it bigger and better than Floyd! Waaaay bigger than Hamilton. The NEW doping controversy champion!

Yes! Shed the backpack of sadness!

Bombshell time Mr. Armstrong!

 

[MacRoadie]

If any of them told me it was raining outside, I'd go check for myself.

Even if they walked in the door soaking wet...LOL

 

[Scott SoCal]

Yes! Shed the backpack of sadness!

Bombshell time Mr. Armstrong!

Monkeymouth, drop the dime and once again bang the hooker of awesomeness.

 

[Fortyninefourteen]

Yes! Shed the backpack of sadness!

Bombshell time Mr. Armstrong!

He gots nuthin'. All been said, all been spilled. He could maybe embarass Verdruggen.

He gots nuthin, I tell ya.

 

[Granville57]

C'mon Wonderboy! Dig into your backpack of courage and drop some allegations! You can do it bigger and better than Floyd! Waaaay bigger than Hamilton. The NEW doping controversy champion!

LOL! I think you're dead on with that assessment. It's the last race that he can win: the race to the bottom. It's perfectly consistent with his dysfunction. Nobody, but NOBODY, can, or will, out-confess Armstrong! Nobody!

Bunch of amateurs, I tell you.

 

[Oldman]

RaceRadio claimed somewhere in one of these threads that Wiesel and Wonderboy are not on speaking terms. That seems plausible to me as the whole Doprah extravaganza would have been taken personally by Wiesel as breaking omerta.

Plant is a higher-level guy than Wonderboy. Plant is Wiesel operative since even before Wiesel's takeover.

Plant was Wiesel before the Age of Lanceness and it wouldn't surprise me that he'd like to occupy the vacuum that a full USACycling cleanout would provide. Stepping up to take on Thom is a different level of combat, though. TW has the money and he already doesn't care what the world thinks of him.

 

[Maxiton]

Plant was Wiesel before the Age of Lanceness and it wouldn't surprise me that he'd like to occupy the vacuum that a full USACycling cleanout would provide. Stepping up to take on Thom is a different level of combat, though. TW has the money and he already doesn't care what the world thinks of him.

How about this: Wiesel took a look at Pat and the bumbling way he was handling this crisis in cycling and he said to himself, this guy's got to go! Or, alternatively, he saw McQuaid's vulnerability and said hey, this crisis could be the perfect opportunity to grab even more control in cycling. After all, the best time to go all in, so they say, is during a depression, when everything is dirt cheap and most everyone is weak and desperate. How do we know Plant isn't acting as Weisel's agent?

 

[Weapons of @ss Destruction]

Nobody, but NOBODY, can, or will, out-confess Armstrong! Nobody!

Armstrong: "What am I on? I'm on the computer busting my *** on twitter six hours a day. What are you on?"

How do we know Plant isn't acting as Weisel's agent?

Plant is a plant? Oh noes!

 

[DirtyWorks]

How do we know Plant isn't acting as Weisel's agent?

Plant acting to sweep out USAC is possible since he pre-dates Wiesel at USAC. We're talking about a classy bunch of guys willing to litigate each other and/or dope to advance their goals. I trust Oldman's assessment better than my own. It's more creative and true to the characters.

Now might be a nice time to re-read "USA cycling and their history of crooked elections" http://www.sandcreeksports.com/documents/usa_cyclings_history_of_crooked_elections.pdf

 

[Briant_Gumble]

He gots nuthin'. All been said, all been spilled. He could maybe embarass Verdruggen.

He gots nuthin, I tell ya.

What about the story the NY times ran that Nike paid Verbruggen $500,000 to cover up the 1999 corticosteroid positive?

 

[Maxiton]

Plant acting to sweep out USAC is possible since he pre-dates Wiesel at USAC. We're talking about a classy bunch of guys willing to litigate each other and/or dope to advance their goals. I trust Oldman's assessment better than my own. It's more creative and true to the characters.

Now might be a nice time to re-read "USA cycling and their history of crooked elections" http://www.sandcreeksports.com/documents/usa_cyclings_history_of_crooked_elections.pdf

Thanks for that, and I hear what you're saying. Duly noted.

I did re-read the Les Earnest piece, btw, and enjoyed it again. The mind boggles.

 

[Fortyninefourteen]

What about the story the NY times ran that Nike paid Verbruggen $500,000 to cover up the 1999 corticosteroid positive?

The cortico positive was dealt with using a backdated TUE. Not sure money changed hands for that incident.

Mostly the point I am trying to make is 95% of the cat is on the outside of the bag. The remaining 5% won't be that sensational. This is killing Armstrong because he's lost leverage and got not much news.....

 

[Heckler]

LA's twitter appeals to Cookson for a T and R Commission.

Personally, I slow down for car crashes and train wrecks just like everybody else. But, it's probably time to just move on.

A lifetime ban should be a lifetime ban.

If LA Really wants the world to know the truth he should write a book and donate 100% of the proceeds to an ethics related nfp that hasn't got any of his fingerprints on it.

Pathological Psychopath.

 

[frenchfry]

LA's twitter appeals to Cookson for a T and R Commission.

Personally, I slow down for car crashes and train wrecks just like everybody else. But, it's probably time to just move on.

A lifetime ban should be a lifetime ban.

If LA Really wants the world to know the truth he should write a book and donate 100% of the proceeds to an ethics related nfp that hasn't got any of his fingerprints on it.

Pathological Psychopath.

Armstrong is a good example of why a T&R process would never work. Some will try to manipulate it for personal advantage, the majority will maintain omerta.

In no case should current sanctions be changed.

 

[DominicDecoco]

A bit of sick went up..

Lance Armstrong ‏@lancearmstrong 5m
Jan Ullrich? Warm hearted. Amazing athlete. Great competitor. Loved toeing the line with you my friend.

 

[webvan]

Horrible, that's exactly why it pains me to see Ullrich "come clean" (we'll have to see to what extent) because it was obvious the sociopath would see this as a "sign".

 

[DirtyWorks]

A bit of sick went up..

Lance Armstrong ‏@lancearmstrong 5m
Jan Ullrich? Warm hearted. Amazing athlete. Great competitor. Loved toeing the line with you my friend.

He's a victim! Wait, maybe he can he be the world's greatest victim? Like some sort of stupid movie plot, it's so crazy it just might work!!!

And, BTW, it's everyone's fault they don't understand how he got railroaded. He's a good guy. Really.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

A bit of sick went up..

Lance Armstrong ‏@lancearmstrong 5m
Jan Ullrich? Warm hearted. Amazing athlete. Great competitor. Loved toeing the line with you my friend.

UllStrong Gran Fondo coming up shortly.

 

[Fortyninefourteen]

UllStrong Gran Fondo coming up shortly.

Ullrich is not a German Lance Armstrong......hopefully they don't reach out to each other, even if Ullrich seems to have a lot of contempt for Lance.

 

[Heckler]

Maybe, in the future, lifetime bans should include blogs, twitter and myspace pages...

 

[Granville57]

Maybe, in the future, lifetime bans should include blogs, twitter and myspace pages...

I think I'd be content with only that. Let them ride, but for the love of god, silence them.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Ullrich is not a German Lance Armstrong......hopefully they don't reach out to each other, even if Ullrich seems to have a lot of contempt for Lance.

Ullrich probably just goes with public opinion on the Armstrong matter. The "Ullrich come clean" process stinks of wanting to get back into the sport in some capacity. Manicured statements etc.

I personally don't differentiate too much between the high end dopers.

 

[Heckler]

Ullrich probably just goes with public opinion on the Armstrong matter. The "Ullrich come clean" process stinks of wanting to get back into the sport in some capacity. Manicured statements etc.

I personally don't differentiate too much between the high end dopers.

I am a zero tolerance personality, But, I do feel that there is a difference between being a doper; being a team of dopers and being a team of dopers that gets a phone call to warn them of a raid or an out of competition test and collects intel on their competitors and turns them in.

I'm less offended by his doping and a lot more offended by his intimidation tactics, his dirty politics, the Livestrong whitewash.

Everyone was a doper, LA is a mob tactics criminal.

 

[burning]

Maybe, in the future, lifetime bans should include blogs, twitter and myspace pages...

This is the best idea I have ever seen regarding anti-doping