Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession)

[sittingbison]

Yeah, it's really weird, people playing the ball and not the man.

Gentle(wo)men,
Let's not be wierd

Cheers
Bison

 

[Bosco10]

Very good entertainment right here:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/lance-armstrong-a-career-in-39-quotes


The bits about Bassons and Simeoni put a wry smile to my face.

It's sort of fun to see the Full-On-Lance from years back. I also think it's necessary because details of his prickly behavior tend to fade with time, and that's exactly what the Poor-Me-Lance of today wants.

 

[Fausto's Schnauzer]

It's sort of fun to see the Full-On-Lance from years back. I also think it's necessary because details of his prickly behavior tend to fade with time, and that's exactly what the Poor-Me-Lance of today wants.

"prickly." I like that. How 'bout "his douchosity"?

 

[Race Radio]

Funny story from that event. Lance was in the middle of his legal issues and invited himself to the event. When Bush saw him he turned to a friend and said "What is that A$$hole doing here?"......George was not a fan

 

[Fortyninefourteen]

Funny story from that event. Lance was in the middle of his legal issues and invited himself to the event. When Bush saw him he turned to a friend and said "What is that A$$hole doing here?"......George was not a fan

Not like George was a beacon of righteousness himself....

 

[Bosco10]

"prickly." I like that. How 'bout "his douchosity"?

That will work. His behavior has spawned a slew of new words lol.

 

[Race Radio]

Bob Roll, spewing the talking points

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7r-eucIqyo&list=UUjNL5b6a3l8npfMNL9mOuPg

Funny how different his talking points were about Ricco

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xh14b3_riccardo-ricco-expelled-from-the-08-tour-de-france_sport


http://www.bicycle.net/2008/tour-de-france-ricco-test-positive-video-by-versus

Riccardo Ricco has perpetrated a despicable and egregious fraud against his teammates his sponsor the TDF but, most importantly, the fans.

 

[9000ft]

Funny story from that event. Lance was in the middle of his legal issues and invited himself to the event. When Bush saw him he turned to a friend and said "What is that A$$hole doing here?"......George was not a fan

For all of LA's real and imagined malfeasance, he didn't invade any countries on false pretenses resulting in the deaths of hundreds of thousands. I wouldn't put to much weight in who or what he likes of doesn't like. As far as criminality, LA is pretty minor league compared to that.

 

[Race Radio]

For all of LA's real and imagined malfeasance, he didn't invade any countries on false pretenses resulting in the deaths of hundreds of thousands. I wouldn't put to much weight in who or what he likes of doesn't like. As far as criminality, LA is pretty minor league compared to that.

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I was not comparing the two, not sure you you came to that conclusion. The point was his lobbying efforts had little effect on some.

 

[9000ft]

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I was not comparing the two, not sure you you came to that conclusion. The point was his lobbying efforts had little effect on some.

Well, it seems that you think others should care what Dubya thinks about LA or anyone else.

 

[Scott SoCal]

Well, it seems that you think others should care what Dubya thinks about LA or anyone else.

Oh my.

Given the lengths LA went to use his political contacts to keep his *** outta jail is relevant whether it's W or Bill Clinton or Feinstein or any of a dozen others.

Funny how McCain was the pol that finally put the Fabiani led Professional Liars Association to bed.

Feel free to pretend that where Lance is concerned this stuff doesn't matter.

 

[BroDeal]

Funny story from that event. Lance was in the middle of his legal issues and invited himself to the event. When Bush saw him he turned to a friend and said "What is that A$$hole doing here?"......George was not a fan

Say what? Dubya was not part of the conspiracy? Wow. Was he one of the few not invited or was he playing hooky during the meeting of the cabal?

 

[MarkvW]

Well, it seems that you think others should care what Dubya thinks about LA or anyone else.

It gets weird here sometimes. Awhile back the subject of Armstrong's opinions on abortion were discussed in an attempt to cast him in a negative light.

 

[StyrbjornSterki]

Bob Roll, spewing the talking points

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7r-eucIqyo&list=UUjNL5b6a3l8npfMNL9mOuPg

One hardly can expect Liggett, Sherwin or Roll to have any objectivity where Pharmstrong is concerned because his doping success manifestly increased their net worths. Pro cycling recieved only vestigial coverage in America until the Outdoor Life Network bought exclusive USA rights to the 1999 Tour de France. The same broadcast deal that made Phamstrong a household name (and a celebrated native son) also made Phil, Paul and Bob their faces and voices of the TdF. And upgraded them from flying Coach right up into First Class.

What Roll fails to appreciate in the linked video (or perhaps appreciates but refuses to admit) is that pro cycling already is reconciled with the Pharmstrong era. It pronounced him a persona nongrata. Done and done.

Grievous injuries often leave a scar. Scars serve as daily reminder to the injury and its lessons. The plastering over of scars is the first step to forgetting the injury. The TdF bears a most conspicuous -- and appropriate -- scar from 1999 to 2005. And cycling must never forget.

 

[the sceptic]

Say what? Dubya was not part of the conspiracy? Wow. Was he one of the few not invited or was he playing hooky during the meeting of the cabal?

Good thing we have RR to listen in on Bush's private comments. Have anything he said about the phony WMDs?

I heard Lance tried to go on holiday to North Korea once, but they had heard about his doping and didnt let him in the country. True story.

 

[Granville57]

I heard Lance tried to go on holiday to North Korea once, but they had heard about his doping and didnt let him in the country. True story.

I heard that North Korea simply didn't want some self-absorbed, ego-maniacal, flamboyant, loudmouthed, attention-seeking, a$$hole athlete inside their Kingdom.






So they went for the more reasonable option:

 

[Scott SoCal]

I heard Lance tried to go on holiday to North Korea once, but they had heard about his doping and didnt let him in the country. True story.

Naw dude. It was Cambodia. Monkeymouth is a big DK fan.

 

[Scott SoCal]

It gets weird here sometimes. Awhile back the subject of Armstrong's opinions on abortion were discussed in an attempt to cast him in a negative light.

Didn't know his opinion on abortion was in the public domain, but Livestrong's $100k donation to Planned Parenthood certainly is.

 

[MonkeyFace]

Grievous injuries often leave a scar. Scars serve as daily reminder to the injury and its lessons. The plastering over of scars is the first step to forgetting the injury. The TdF bears a most conspicuous -- and appropriate -- scar from 1999 to 2005. And cycling must never forget.

I am ok with there being no winner. To say that there was any winner would be saying that it was a legitimate competition. Armstrong's "wins" are about as recognizable as Bond's homerun record. His time in sport was nothing more than masturbatory exercise. Lance is like a kid who looked at someone's cards when they left the room and still claims he won the game even it was obvious to everyone that he had cheated because he needs to win even if it means nothing.

 

[MarkvW]

One hardly can expect Liggett, Sherwin or Roll to have any objectivity where Pharmstrong is concerned because his doping success manifestly increased their net worths. Pro cycling recieved only vestigial coverage in America until the Outdoor Life Network bought exclusive USA rights to the 1999 Tour de France. The same broadcast deal that made Phamstrong a household name (and a celebrated native son) also made Phil, Paul and Bob their faces and voices of the TdF. And upgraded them from flying Coach right up into First Class.

What Roll fails to appreciate in the linked video (or perhaps appreciates but refuses to admit) is that pro cycling already is reconciled with the Pharmstrong era. It pronounced him a persona nongrata. Done and done.

Grievous injuries often leave a scar. Scars serve as daily reminder to the injury and its lessons. The plastering over of scars is the first step to forgetting the injury. The TdF bears a most conspicuous -- and appropriate -- scar from 1999 to 2005. And cycling must never forget.

Bob Roll is the true face of USAC.

 

[86TDFWinner]

Bob Roll is the true face of USAC.

LOL, exactly!! The paid Wonderboy apologist until it wasn't so nice to worship him. He should go work for Trek or Oakley.

 

[thehog]

LOL, exactly!! The paid Wonderboy apologist until it wasn't so nice to worship him. He should go work for Trek or Oakley.

Yes, I was so upset hearing that Lance duped Nike. They deserve better. Armstrong could have risked the jobs of all those Asian factory workers on 10 cents a day.

 

[Race Radio]

Didn't know his opinion on abortion was in the public domain, but Livestrong's $100k donation to Planned Parenthood certainly is.

Yup. It was hardly a discussion limited to this forum. Multiple media outlets questioned the political motivation of a major donation that was completely outside of Livestrong's charter at the same time his criminal case was dropped.

 

[RobbieCanuck]

For all of LA's real and imagined malfeasance, he didn't invade any countries on false pretenses resulting in the deaths of hundreds of thousands. I wouldn't put to much weight in who or what he likes of doesn't like. As far as criminality, LA is pretty minor league compared to that.

Reality is - taking money from the USPS, donators to Livestrong.org, and cancer victims on the basis of fraud, false pretences and misrepresentation is not minor league or imagined. This actually happened. As Tygart said, it was the biggest and most sophisticated fraud in sporting history supported by a legion of evidence.

To sustain the fraud Armstrong engaged in intimidation, harassment, perjury, defamation, and obstruction of justice. So unless you live in the galactic nethrerlands, devoid of real earth news, that may not sound like enough for you, but it is enough for 99.999% of the population on Earth.

 

[D-Queued]

Well, it seems that you think others should care what Dubya thinks about LA or anyone else.

As a more recent member here, and/or due to the altitude you fly at, you may not have been aware of this get together when it occurred.

It was a big deal at the time, and it was promoted by the League of Apologists.

Say what? Dubya was not part of the conspiracy? Wow. Was he one of the few not invited or was he playing hooky during the meeting of the cabal?

BroDeal, you have been around long enough to remember this minor chapter in the ongoing saga.

Let's not forget that once upon a time Lance also floated the idea of politics (Governor). Perhaps you recall the Vanity Fair article.

Well, ok, maybe only for its nude photo of Lance

http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2008/09/armstrong200809

Lance Armstrong Rides Again

In a VF.com exclusive, indefatigable anti-cancer crusader and seven-time Tour de France winner Lance Armstrong opens up about doping, dating, politics (including a possible run for the Texas statehouse), George W. Bush...


“What about the rumors,” I asked him, “that you’ll run for governor?”

He answered slyly, “Down the road, something like that might be possible. Probably in 2014.”

Thus, RR's observation is not only of significance given the previous juxtaposition, but also timely as this was the year that Lance was supposed to throw his hat in the Gubernatorial sweepstakes.

My record should be pretty consistent in never having said anything supportive of Dubya, but I must stray on this occasion. Apparently even Dubya was not hoodwinked by Prance.

Oh, and RR is also not alone in the awareness of how W really felt. I had heard this long ago, and it wasn't from him. And, I have some confidence that RR and I don't have too many common sources.

Dave.