Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession)

[Beech Mtn]

RR and Andreu Strategies ought to feed this Clinton-Lance coverup, dropping the criminal case, waste of taxpayers' dollars story to Donald Trump to use to go after Hillary. This is just the kind of scandal Trump would be all over

 

[Semper Fidelis]

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RR and Andreu Strategies ought to feed this Clinton-Lance coverup, dropping the criminal case, waste of taxpayers' dollars story to Donald Trump to use to go after Hillary. This is just the kind of scandal Trump would be all over

Yeah it would be fun to watch. Much like the latest in the Trump arsenal of half wit things to speak up about.

 

[DamianoMachiavelli]

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RR and Andreu Strategies ought to feed this Clinton-Lance coverup, dropping the criminal case, waste of taxpayers' dollars story to Donald Trump to use to go after Hillary. This is just the kind of scandal Trump would be all over

Yeah it would be fun to watch. Much like the latest in the Trump arsenal of half wit things to speak up about.

RR and his conspiracy theories. Let's not forget the one that had Lance behind the prosecution of Landis for fraud. You know, the nefarious tentacles of The Lance had stretched out from Texas to punish Floyd for going public by corrupting members of the justice system. Somehow, after all the wink-wink allusions to hidden connections and politicians on the take, he never bothered to reveal the actual story because Lance was not to blame.

What really happened is the DA is a cyclist and a self-described fan of LeMond. He is also a Class-A dooshbag. The first thing he said when meeting Landis was, "You know, Floyd, I too fancy myself a bit of a stud." Can you imagine someone who plays a little basketball, perhaps in a church league, meeting Michael Jordon and telling him, "You know, Mike, I too fancy myself a bit of a stud."

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Re: Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession

Hi I’m a Business Management student. I am currently undertaking a dissertation that focuses on Online Ethnographic Research. I would really appreciate it if you can take a few minutes to help me out.

My dissertation question is “To what extent can trust ever be regained after a doping scandal?” However, I want to argue that for the Lance Armstrong case it pretty much can’t. Mainly because his case is not just a doping scandal, it is way more e.g. his treatment towards the people who accused him, the power he had and the corruption of the sport in general.

However, I was just wondering if most of you feel similar? Do you also feel his case is different from other doping scandals, especially with regards to him ever regaining the public’s trust?

Your responses will all be kept strictly anonymous.

Thanks!

I'm going to recommend you contact the dirty dozen. They are the eXperts.

 

[86TDFWinner]

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Does no one follow Race Radio's twitter feed?
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/3x8w9q/i_am_a_former_dea_agent_that_opened_the_case/cy2jk35

Interesting details on the death of the criminal case. (Friday afternoon, before the superbowl, news)

Good stuff man, thanks.

 

[86TDFWinner]

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RR and Andreu Strategies ought to feed this Clinton-Lance coverup, dropping the criminal case, waste of taxpayers' dollars story to Donald Trump to use to go after Hillary. This is just the kind of scandal Trump would be all over

 

[86TDFWinner]

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RR and Andreu Strategies ought to feed this Clinton-Lance coverup, dropping the criminal case, waste of taxpayers' dollars story to Donald Trump to use to go after Hillary. This is just the kind of scandal Trump would be all over

Yeah it would be fun to watch. Much like the latest in the Trump arsenal of half wit things to speak up about.

RR and his conspiracy theories. Let's not forget the one that had Lance behind the prosecution of Landis for fraud. You know, the nefarious tentacles of The Lance had stretched out from Texas to punish Floyd for going public by corrupting members of the justice system. Somehow, after all the wink-wink allusions to hidden connections and politicians on the take, he never bothered to reveal the actual story because Lance was not to blame.

What really happened is the DA is a cyclist and a self-described fan of LeMond. He is also a Class-A dooshbag. The first thing he said when meeting Landis was, "You know, Floyd, I too fancy myself a bit of a stud." Can you imagine someone who plays a little basketball, perhaps in a church league, meeting Michael Jordon and telling him, "You know, Mike, I too fancy myself a bit of a stud."

Yeah, they're all "conspiracy theories" made up to get Wonderboy, That's it.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Just gotta love Floyd these days:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/landis-lance-armstrong-has-become-the-self-appointed-hypocrisy-police/
calling out Lance on the Boogerd BS tweet

 

[gooner]

Re: Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession

He's bang on the money in his comment about Lance. It's also a nice little response to the people who agreed with Lance and have "suddenly" come full circle and supported in recent times.

You even see it in the media with guys like Jeremy Whittle doing his bidding for him. The same with Teddy Cutler, who has the cheek to pontificate on the riders of today and yet still call Lance(Rasmussen too) a great champion where he should still have his Tours. Practically on a crusade to get his ban reduced.

Those guys are complicit in the problem in the sport.

 

[Jacques de Molay]

Re: Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession

Notice how Lance never, ever, ever, ever, ever seems to comment on Floyd?

LOL

No do-overs in real life. Oh well.

Floyd is WINNING...and it must be KILLING LANCE SLOWLY!

 

[blackcat]

good post JdM
john bunyan likes

 

[blackcat]

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.......................fair play to lance is forgiving his indiscretions .........although other names are used

it will only really ever be about..............lance

Mark L

would that April Macy peccadillo be an indiscretion or merely a peccadillo or (c) All of the above, a false dichotomy?

 

[StyrbjornSterki]

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Just gotta love Floyd these days:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/landis-lance-armstrong-has-become-the-self-appointed-hypocrisy-police/
calling out Lance on the Boogerd BS tweet

From the Comments section:

Terrence Martineau papafrog • 2 days ago

Lance and Landis doped... Landis get's busted and tried to come back and asked Lance for a little help and Lance said FU... Landis says, Lance... I know where all the bodies are buried... Lance says FU... Landis says.. ok cool... I'm taking all your money... and in a few months will be doing just that... Landis and Lance played the game... Landis... checkmate!

Burn, baby, burn!

 

[staubsauger]

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Just gotta love Floyd these days:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/landis-lance-armstrong-has-become-the-self-appointed-hypocrisy-police/
calling out Lance on the Boogerd BS tweet

From the Comments section:

Terrence Martineau papafrog • 2 days ago

Lance and Landis doped... Landis get's busted and tried to come back and asked Lance for a little help and Lance said FU... Landis says, Lance... I know where all the bodies are buried... Lance says FU... Landis says.. ok cool... I'm taking all your money... and in a few months will be doing just that... Landis and Lance played the game... Landis... checkmate!

Burn, baby, burn!

Lance couldn't care less. You only lose all if you had everything.

 

[86TDFWinner]

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Just gotta love Floyd these days:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/landis-lance-armstrong-has-become-the-self-appointed-hypocrisy-police/
calling out Lance on the Boogerd BS tweet

From the Comments section:

Terrence Martineau papafrog • 2 days ago

Lance and Landis doped... Landis get's busted and tried to come back and asked Lance for a little help and Lance said FU... Landis says, Lance... I know where all the bodies are buried... Lance says FU... Landis says.. ok cool... I'm taking all your money... and in a few months will be doing just that... Landis and Lance played the game... Landis... checkmate!

Burn, baby, burn!

Lance couldn't care less. You only lose all if you had everything.

LOL! Wonderboy actually DOES care, he's spending a truckload of $$$ trying to NOT give Floyd the US Government any money. He has MUCH to lose.

 

[staubsauger]

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Just gotta love Floyd these days:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/landis-lance-armstrong-has-become-the-self-appointed-hypocrisy-police/
calling out Lance on the Boogerd BS tweet

From the Comments section:

Terrence Martineau papafrog • 2 days ago

Lance and Landis doped... Landis get's busted and tried to come back and asked Lance for a little help and Lance said FU... Landis says, Lance... I know where all the bodies are buried... Lance says FU... Landis says.. ok cool... I'm taking all your money... and in a few months will be doing just that... Landis and Lance played the game... Landis... checkmate!

Burn, baby, burn!

Lance couldn't care less. You only lose all if you had everything.

LOL! Wonderboy actually DOES care, he's spending a truckload of $$$ trying to NOT give Floyd the US Government any money. He has MUCH to lose.

Yes. On the court he cares of course. I talked about the internet beef .

 

[thehog]

Re: Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession

WASHINGTON (CN) - Whistleblower Floyd Landis and the United States cannot pursue a "reverse" false claims count against disgraced cyclist Lance Armstrong under a U.S. Postal Service sponsorship contract, a federal judge ruled.

U.S. District Judge Christopher R. Cooper entered summary judgment Tuesday dismissing the claim. He concluded the sponsorship agreement in place "created no legal obligation" for Armstrong "to repay USPS any sponsorship fees obtained as a result of materially false statements."

Direct false claims cause the federal government to pay money directly to the claimants, while reverse false claims cause the improper withholding of money the federal government is owed.

Landis sued former teammate Armstrong, former U.S. Postal Service team manager Johan Bruyneel and Armstrong's management company Tailwind Sports in Federal Court in 2010. The United States joined the lawsuit three years later, after Armstrong admitted to Oprah Winfrey that he used steroids and blood doping to win his record seven consecutive Tour de France victories.

Armstrong gave the interview after he was banned from the sport for life and stripped of his victories. Describing the interview as an "ass whooping," Armstrong said last month he was forced to do it because he wanted to tell his story on his terms with a person of his choosing.

In the same interview , Armstrong said he could not settle with the government because he "is not in a position to cut any more checks" after enduring numerous other lawsuits.

Landis too was stripped of a Tour de France victory for doping, after an epic breakaway in the 2006 race. He claims Bruyneel knew the team was using banned drugs and that Armstrong and Tailwind Sports, among others, knowingly flouted USPS sponsorship agreements signed in 1995 and 2000. Landis could receive up to 30 percent of any recovery as whistleblower.

Cooper's 31-page opinion agreed with the defendants that Tailwind's "purported obligation to pay does not arise under the contract, but rather from an alleged right to recoup previous contractual payments." Cooper said he could not find any other decision ruling that a breach of contract with the United States allows it to sue for reimbursement qualifying as an "obligation" under the False Claims Act.

He cited a 2014 ruling against the defendants that concluded a reverse false claims "obligation" is only triggered by a "total breach" of a "core, vital material term that defeats the purpose of the contract" and allows the injured party to ask for restitution.

"Upon considerable further review, the court is persuaded that Tailwind's alleged breach of the sponsorship agreement did not create a statutory 'obligation,'" he wrote.

Cooper also refused to dismiss four direct false claims counts against Armstrong's business representatives - William Stapleton, Barton Knaggs and their company Capital Sports and Entertainment Holdings - finding a genuine issue of material fact exists as to whether false claims under the USPS sponsorship agreement were filed within act's six-year statute of limitations.

http://www.courthousenews.com/2016/01/13/lance-armstrong-ducks-feds-clawback-effort.htm

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Re: Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession

WASHINGTON (CN) - Whistleblower Floyd Landis and the United States cannot pursue a "reverse" false claims count against disgraced cyclist Lance Armstrong under a U.S. Postal Service sponsorship contract, a federal judge ruled.

...

http://www.courthousenews.com/2016/01/13/lance-armstrong-ducks-feds-clawback-effort.htm

So is that the whole Qui Tam (baby)
under a bus?

 

[Benotti69]

Re: Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession

WASHINGTON (CN) - Whistleblower Floyd Landis and the United States cannot pursue a "reverse" false claims count against disgraced cyclist Lance Armstrong under a U.S. Postal Service sponsorship contract, a federal judge ruled.

...

http://www.courthousenews.com/2016/01/13/lance-armstrong-ducks-feds-clawback-effort.htm

So is that the whole Qui Tam (baby)
under a bus?

Nope. If it was, a certain Texan would be on social media gloating. Just one more move in this long game of chess.

 

[DamianoMachiavelli]

Re: Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession

Wow This place truly is dead. Unbelievable.

Thanks, mods.

 

[MarkvW]

Re: Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession

WASHINGTON (CN) - Whistleblower Floyd Landis and the United States cannot pursue a "reverse" false claims count against disgraced cyclist Lance Armstrong under a U.S. Postal Service sponsorship contract, a federal judge ruled.

...

http://www.courthousenews.com/2016/01/13/lance-armstrong-ducks-feds-clawback-effort.htm

So is that the whole Qui Tam (baby)
under a bus?

No. Looks like one of Floyd's claims got dismissed. He has others. Doesn't look like any of the United States' claims were dismissed.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Re: Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession

surprised there was not a run on duct tape from the read on this latest news.

Hope the dirty dozen made it out to the HomeDepot and stocked up.

 

[Jacques de Molay]

Re: Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession

Monday's ruling had no bearing in the ongoing case between the Department of Justice and Armstrong.

 

[86TDFWinner]

Re: Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession

In the same interview , Armstrong said he could not settle with the government because he "is not in a position to cut any more checks" after enduring numerous other lawsuits.

Hilarious! We all know he's got A LOT of jack, I called it earlier. They've drug this out long enough for him to "hide/funnel/transfer" his $$$ overseas. He didn't get to where he is financially without some folks knowing how to.make money disappear.

He's not out of the woods yet, this is funny stuff from Wonderboy though.

Curious if there's info stating just how.much he's paid out recently?

 

[Fortyninefourteen]

Not so sure about the cash stash. Remember Novitzky was an IRS guy. If there was a paper trail, he found it. Lance would be getting advice from a fool if he thinks he can hide funds. Even Switzerland is coughing up the occasional US citizen to comply with the disclosure agreements now in place with the USA.