Official Lance Armstrong thread

[Cobblestones]

After reading all these posts, I have to ask is this a surprise? This is the first time since 1986 that a team with multiple captains have more than one rider that is in a position to win the TdF.

Not quite. 1996, Ullrich was in a (three? men) break in virtual yellow and refused to work. He wouldn't have been considered a captain, though.

Anyway, this thread is funny. The strongest man of a team leaves everybody else in the dust. What's to discuss? He shouldn't do it because one of the domestiques might not survive the inevitable counter attack?

 

[Parrot23]

I think it's Bob Roll myself.

I think JackHammer111, who is now TeamCaptainCircleJerk, whatever, is Phil Liggett. He says we should just watch and enjoy "it". "It" seems to be Versus.

 

[Parrot23]

Question: What is the usual collective conclusion when you see a particular GC contender just take off and appear to have a substantially greater ability than all the other GC contenders??? What is usually the collective assesment here since the natural physiological differences at the top levels of cycling are so miniscule??? What accouts for this seemingly almost un-natural ability to leave everyone else behind like they are standing still??? Can't remember . . . .

That's he's on the same Postal/Discovery/Astana "medical" program as Lance, just that the playing field is level now, so his talent is showing through.

JB must be banging his head on the side of the Astana bus now, "Why did I do this? Why did I do this? It's not fair."

 

[BroDeal]

I think JackHammer111, who is now TeamCaptainCircleJerk, whatever, is Phil Liggett.

How long before TeamCaptainCircleJerk starts threatening to track people down and rape their wives?

 

[Azdak6]

Lance needs to win to prove he was never on drugs and to prove that a 37 yr old is not an old man. Contador is a nonentity that cant speak english and would drive the tour into boring obscurity. Contador won one lousy tour and that could easily be a fluke. Contador needs to defer to this elder. Its not all about athletic prowess. Its more about entertainment. I would probably get banned if I described just how much contempt I have for the twit Contador.

If it looks like a troll, acts like a troll, smells like a troll........

 

[grimpeur]

I think JackHammer111, who is now TeamCaptainCircleJerk, whatever, is Phil Liggett. He says we should just watch and enjoy "it". "It" seems to be Versus.

Really? If it is Phil I'd like to ask him to stop fluffing the Astana team.

 

[grimpeur]

I really think this thread should be renamed LA-LA Land...

 

[RightWingNutJob]

I really think this thread should be renamed LA-LA Land...

Seems to me like everybody enjoys being in LA-LA land. What would we do without him?

 

[Bala Verde]

Of course you're correct Bala, but remember that you're talking to BYU, a guy who doesn't even know how to ride a bike. He can't comprehend anything that you are saying. He's like a 5-year old sitting at the grown-up dinner table trying to insert his opinion into the discussion.

Thanks, I already thought I was going nuts

 

[Bala Verde]

You know what, yes, I think he was pre-empting another Evans attack (he surely remembers the Van den Broek/Evans two-step at the Dauphine).

Using Van den Broek to claim first dibs against Armstrong (I though he would be using A. Shleck to do this today, but, hey, who cares; it's the same maneuvre).

Smart play.

Van de Broek said in post stage interview that Evans had asked him to 'toughen up' the stage. That's why he went for it.

He also stated that he regretted going at it so hard, because he blew himself up a bit

 

[byu123]

Van de Broek said in post stage interview that Evans had asked him to 'toughen up' the stage. That's why he went for it.

He also stated that he regretted going at it so hard, because he blew himself up a bit

Looks like the following, who were considered GC contenders, all got dropped out the back: Nibali, Pellizotti, Kloden, LL Sanchez, Monfort, Kirchen, Kreuzinger and Gerdemann.

 

[Bala Verde]

+1
Armstrong twitters about everything else, why not cut and past the question to him?

Mr Armstrong could well run out of fuel before Paris because of his twittering efforts till late at night. Cyclists need to be in bed - hands above the sheets - to recover from their daily bike ride...

 

[Parrot23]

Mr Armstrong could well run out of fuel before Paris because of his twittering efforts till late at night. Cyclists need to be in bed - hands above the sheets - to recover from their daily bike ride...

Ha, ha, ha.

Looks like in the "real" Tour began today with Fuentes dropping Ferrari with an explosive attack, and Cechinni was nowhere to be seen. Wonder what Dr. Maserati feels about this?

Tweet, tweet, tweet, any Dr. Lamborghini's about?

 

[Cobblestones]

Ha, ha, ha.

Looks like in the "real" Tour began today with Fuentes dropping Ferrari with an explosive attack, and Cechinni was nowhere to be seen. Wonder what Dr. Maserati feels about this?

Tweet, tweet, tweet, any Dr. Lamborghini's about?

There's also a few Fiats driving around.

 

[Bala Verde]

There's also a few Fiats driving around.

Since you speak German, you must be aware of the trabant as well

 

[Cobblestones]

Sure. Rennpappe. Never drove one. I did a few trips to the other side, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Soviet Union. Remember the Polski Fiat? Lada?

 

[BroDeal]

Since you speak German, you must be aware of the trabant as well

Dr. Trabant is the one handling Tommy D. His clients seldom make it into a GT.

 

[amsterdamned]

Johan Bruyneel is a GENIUS!!!!

remenber Charleroi... i still can't believe what Bruyneel did to his majesty.

 

[Bagster]

Question: What is the usual collective conclusion when you see a particular GC contender just take off and appear to have a substantially greater ability than all the other GC contenders??? What is usually the collective assesment here since the natural physiological differences at the top levels of cycling are so miniscule??? What accouts for this seemingly almost un-natural ability to leave everyone else behind like they are standing still??? Can't remember . . . .

I think they call it talent, something that is not given to all in equal measure. Plus the differences are not minuscule, no more than the differences in local club races are minuscule. When you are the best climber in the world and the most explosive you CAN leave other riders like they are standing still, at least for short bursts. It's not just related to cycling. Check out Usain Bolt and then tell me of the minuscule differences between top sprinters when he smokes the field by 30 metres in a 200M race.

 

[mortimer99]

can Paul Phil Bob and Criag just bl** lance and be done with it?

Man I am tired of their Lance commentary. God forbid they guy gets a hangnail, it will be a 20 min special, how he came back from cuticle deformation to win the tour de france at age 37...blah, blah blah....

 

[iceaxe]

I think they call it talent, something that is not given to all in equal measure. Plus the differences are not minuscule, no more than the differences in local club races are minuscule. When you are the best climber in the world and the most explosive you CAN leave other riders like they are standing still, at least for short bursts. It's not just related to cycling. Check out Usain Bolt and then tell me of the minuscule differences between top sprinters when he smokes the field by 30 metres in a 200M race.

Nope. it's called inner rage and a need to compensate. you have to be gay or a minority or former cancer patient or something like that to over achieve in a non life threatening peace time contest. You can just look at contador and know that guy has a psychotic need to win. Put contador in the ww1 trenches and he'd be the first to have a nervous breakdown because he is so highstrung.

 

[auscyclefan94]

In Aus we don't get Bob Roll but Phil and Paul treat him as a god, genius and the sunshine comes out of his ****. They are both naive to ignore all the controversey and suspicion around Armstrong. They also have double standards for Armstrong and the other riders.

 

[elapid]

In Aus we don't get Bob Roll but Phil and Paul treat him as a god, genius and the sunshine comes out of his ****. They are both naive to ignore all the controversey and suspicion around Armstrong. They also have double standards for Armstrong and the other riders.

They are not naive. They know which side of the bread their butter is on. Lance is well known for controlling the media and blackballing journalists who link him with drugs and doping. He continued this recently in the Giro and Bruyneel is also doing the same thing against a Belgian journalist now. Why would journalists working for an American television company jeopordize their jobs to criticize their golden egg? Armstrong is big dollars in the States and elsewhere. You just have to look at the ratings for 2005 and 2009 and compare that to 2006-2008. There is no comparison. Why threaten that by criticizing their golden boy? Look at the average person on the street (at least in the US, Canada and Australia): they are talking about the TdF and Armstrong. They haven't done this in previous years and they didn't do this with Floyd, Vande Velde, Z man or any other American cyclist. They may know of Contador now, but I'll put money on that less than half know Pereiro or Sastre. Even Bicycling Magazine challenged readers to state last year's winner! While Phil, Paul and Bob's commentary are not for everyone, including me, they are intelligent and definitely not naive.

 

[mambo#5]

They are not naive. They know which side of the bread their butter is on. Lance is well known for controlling the media and blackballing journalists who link him with drugs and doping. He continued this recently in the Giro and Bruyneel is also doing the same thing against a Belgian journalist now. Why would journalists working for an American television company jeopordize their jobs to criticize their golden egg? Armstrong is big dollars in the States and elsewhere. You just have to look at the ratings for 2005 and 2009 and compare that to 2006-2008. There is no comparison. Why threaten that by criticizing their golden boy? Look at the average person on the street (at least in the US, Canada and Australia): they are talking about the TdF and Armstrong. They haven't done this in previous years and they didn't do this with Floyd, Vande Velde, Z man or any other American cyclist. They may know of Contador now, but I'll put money on that less than half know Pereiro or Sastre. Even Bicycling Magazine challenged readers to state last year's winner! While Phil, Paul and Bob's commentary are not for everyone, including me, they are intelligent and definitely not naive.

Exactly. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

 

[Parrot23]

Dr. Trabant is the one handling Tommy D. His clients seldom make it into a GT.

All of this Trabant stuff is hilarious. Thanks everyone!