Official National Championships thread

[Michielveedeebee]

What is with everybody saying that Gilbert has done so so much races this year? He has done about the same amount of races as EVERYBODY else, no more, no less. He has just shone in the races and won more. But you can't say that he has done alot of races, because everybody else that he competes with right now have done the same amount of races and have the same amount of tiredness.

yeah, but Gilbert goes FTW in almost every race he entered. And almost never softpeddaled. There's a difference between racing FTW all the time, and only racing FTW in half the races you enter and using the other half as training rides.

 

[Nielsa]

What is with everybody saying that Gilbert has done so so much races this year? He has done about the same amount of races as EVERYBODY else, no more, no less. He has just shone in the races and won more. But you can't say that he has done alot of races, because everybody else that he competes with right now have done the same amount of races and have the same amount of tiredness.

Eh, riders don't race the same amount of races and there can be large differences.

http://www.igmarkets.com/procyclingindex

Position Name Nationality Team Kilometres Raced Days Raced Points
1 GILBERT Philippe OMEGA PHARMA - LOTTO 14054 78 7548
2 CONTADOR Alberto SAXO BANK - SUNGARD 10096 61 4292
3 EVANS Cadel BMC RACING TEAM 8808 53 4122
4 CAVENDISH Mark HTC - HIGHROAD 15430 93 3187
5 CANCELLARA Fabian LEOPARD - TREK 14632 87 3109
6 RODRIGUEZ OLIVER Joaquin KATUSHA Team 12490 75 3066
7 MARTIN Tony HTC - HIGHROAD 11051 71 2865
8 SCARPONI Michele LAMPRE - ISD 8109 47 2814
9 FARRAR Tyler TEAM GARMIN - CERVÉLO 15900 93 2682
10 NIBALI Vincenzo LIQUIGAS - CANNONDALE 10796 62 2642

 

[LaFleur]

Eh, riders don't race the same amount of races and there can be large differences.

http://www.igmarkets.com/procyclingindex

Position Name Nationality Team Kilometres Raced Days Raced Points
1 GILBERT Philippe OMEGA PHARMA - LOTTO 14054 78 7548
2 CONTADOR Alberto SAXO BANK - SUNGARD 10096 61 4292
3 EVANS Cadel BMC RACING TEAM 8808 53 4122
4 CAVENDISH Mark HTC - HIGHROAD 15430 93 3187
5 CANCELLARA Fabian LEOPARD - TREK 14632 87 3109
6 RODRIGUEZ OLIVER Joaquin KATUSHA Team 12490 75 3066
7 MARTIN Tony HTC - HIGHROAD 11051 71 2865
8 SCARPONI Michele LAMPRE - ISD 8109 47 2814
9 FARRAR Tyler TEAM GARMIN - CERVÉLO 15900 93 2682
10 NIBALI Vincenzo LIQUIGAS - CANNONDALE 10796 62 2642

Why did you highlight only Gilbert and Contador? Not the ones that did 15 race days more? Anyways I took my information from cqranking.com. It obviously sucks and I won't say anything else anymore based on CQ, my apologies.

 

[roundabout]

Gilbert is 43rd in km rankings for this year @ CQ.

94th for days raced.

 

[LaFleur]

Gilbert is 43rd in km rankings for this year @ CQ.

94th for days raced.

Check the people around in him in the rankings, most of them are very to his stats.

 

[El Pistolero]

Gilbert is 43rd in km rankings for this year @ CQ.

94th for days raced.

Gilbert rides to win all races he enters and enters hard races like all Monuments.

 

[Nielsa]

Why did you highlight only Gilbert and Contador? Not the ones that did 15 race days more?

To highlight the fact that there can be significant differences in days/kms races. Doesn't matter who I highlight. (They were the first 2 riders.) Samu Sanchez 66 days, Cancellara 87 days.
So, in Giro di Lombardia, Gilbert will race against guys like Sanchez and Cunego who have around 20 less race days, but also guys like van Avermaet who has raced about as much as Gilbert.
*Shrug* not sure how much it will matter in these cases.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Gilbert wins the tt champs in belgium? Give me a break....

 

[El Pistolero]

Gilbert wins the tt champs in belgium? Give me a break....

Not that surprising as it may seem first, he beat Cornu and Hermans in both Eneco Tour time trials as well. Monfort had a flat tire.

 

[euanli]

Devolder was TT champ last year. It is hardly surprising that Gilbert could win. The country is hardly known for its fantastic TTers

 

[Midnightfright]

Devolder was TT champ last year. It is hardly surprising that Gilbert could win. The country is hardly known for its fantastic TTers

Some countrys are " TT " countrys and some aren't just the way it is. One thing I always thought would be very interesting would be a 5 or 6 man 50k international road TTT. Who do u think would win , maybe between Aus or Germany?

 

[Richeypen]

Some countrys are " TT " countrys and some aren't just the way it is. One thing I always thought would be very interesting would be a 5 or 6 man 50k international road TTT. Who do u think would win , maybe between Aus or Germany?

The US would be close, as would GB.

 

[Thibaut Pinot]

The US would be close, as would GB.

The Dutchies could also make it on the podium I guess. With Clement, Boom, Tjallingii, Terpstra, Posthuma, Westra and Van Emden they could make a decent team.

 

[Midnightfright]

The US would be close, as would GB.

Very good point. Always thought it would be interesting to watch. There would be very few if any nations who could put out 6 high quality Timetrialists.

 

[Richeypen]

Very good point. Always thought it would be interesting to watch. There would be very few if any nations who could put out 6 high quality Timetrialists.

With most countries you can get to 4. Becomes a bit of a struggle after that

 

[Midnightfright]

With most countries you can get to 4. Becomes a bit of a struggle after that

I rekon that's what would make it exciting. I mean how many countries could name 4 top quality timetrialist? I would say Aus, US, Germany, GB and Holland. So adding the extra couple riders on would even it out.

 

[El Pistolero]

Belgium would be the worst country of the big cycling countries That's for sure.

 

[Midnightfright]

Belgium would be the worst country of the big cycling countries That's for sure.

It maybe a cobbled Timetrial.

 

[Scatto]

Devolder was TT champ last year. It is hardly surprising that Gilbert could win. The country is hardly known for its fantastic TTers

Monfort, Rosseler, Hermans, Cornu, Devolder, Van den Broeck (U23 WC), Roelandts (3th in ENECO final TT), De Ghendt (4th in TdF final TT) ... and Gilbert. Probably not best in the world, but France, Italy and even Spain will have a hard time beating a team from these guys. US, UK and Germany are better.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Not that surprising as it may seem first, he beat Cornu and Hermans in both Eneco Tour time trials as well. Monfort had a flat tire.

Yeah but I find it hard to believe that a guy like PG would win a TT championship. The fact that Monfort had a flat indicates why he won.

 

[Michielveedeebee]

Monfort, Rosseler, Hermans, Cornu(U23 WC), Devolder, Van den Broeck (U19 WC), Roelandts (3th in ENECO final TT), De Ghendt (4th in TdF final TT) ... and Gilbert. Probably not best in the world, but France, Italy and even Spain will have a hard time beating a team from these guys. US, UK and Germany are better.

fixed it for you

 

[El Pistolero]

Monfort, Rosseler, Hermans, Cornu, Devolder, Van den Broeck (U23 WC), Roelandts (3th in ENECO final TT), De Ghendt (4th in TdF final TT) ... and Gilbert. Probably not best in the world, but France, Italy and even Spain will have a hard time beating a team from these guys. US, UK and Germany are better.

Spain have Castraviejo(probably misspelled), Lulu, Guttierez and Contador. Especially Contador and Lulu makes them better. Although Lulu sucks these days.

 

[craig1985]

Is there anything Gilbert won't win?

 

[Arnolfini]

Is there anything Gilbert won't win?

The Grand National.

 

[greenedge]

Lulu did win the Spanish championships. He did not need to race the final ITT at the TDF since he had already won a stage.

Groan with another Gilbert win.