Teams & Riders Official Wout Van Aert thread

[Valv.Piti]

Damn Im so entertained by the few cross races that I have managed to catch so far. Absolutely world class riding by these guys.

Wout now knows how to crack MVDP in the sprint.

 

[limak_]

Like, inflation is sky high, people struggle to afford energy, there's a cost of living crisis, and there's a giant land war in Europe, but your 1st thought is to moan about wokeness I think that's a pretty big brain fart at best.

And I suppose none of these affects him personally. Literally everyone and everywhere talks about inflation, the war and energy crisis, so why would he be supposed to be another one to do that?

The problem with wokeness that Wout talked about is on a different level that the ones you mentioned, but that doesn't mean he needs to keep quite about that just because "there are bigger problems going on". I'm personally really satisfied that he's not afraid to give his own opinion about all that woke stuff, as most of the well known sport figures just thoughtlessly succumb to it (at least publicly).

 

[Bolder]

I cringe every time a pro athlete weighs in on current events. It rarely goes well.

 

[Extinction]

"Woke" has become a grammatically incorrect catch-word to indicate the lingering persistance of residual traditions associated with discrimination and racism in American culture, and by extension Anglo-European culture (hence Zwarte Piet), according to the logic of politically correct and the cancel culture, neo-inquisition environment it has spawned. Social media has made practically everyone and everything subject to "woke" scrutiny, its "influencers" new Torquemadas, a corrolary of which is the more puritanical variant of "Me too" extremism. Naturally there are far greater problems in the world than Zwarte Piet, for example the myriad of crimes that oppress countless millions every day, which evade the ire of "woke" concerns. So Wout is free to express a critical approach to the trend, however unpopular this may be with the marketing concerns of his title sponsors that don't want controversy adversely affecting business.

 

[Mayomaniac]

"Woke" has become a grammatically incorrect catch-word to indicate the lingering persistance of residual traditions associated with discrimination and racism in American culture, and by extension Anglo-European culture (hence Zwarte Piet), according to the logic of politically correct and the cancel culture, neo-inquisition environment it has spawned. Social media has made practically everyone and everything subject to "woke" scrutiny, its "influencers" new Torquemadas, a corrolary of which is the more puritanical variant of "Me too" extremism. Naturally there are far greater problems in the world than Zwarte Piet, for example the myriad of crimes that oppress countless millions every day, which evade the ire of "woke" concern. So Wout is free to express a critical approach to the trend, however unpopular this may be with the marketing concerns of his title sponsors that don't want controversy adversely effecting business.

Good post, at least he doesn't ride for a virtue signaling American team...

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

much like wout, you lads will be pleased to find out that embarassing yourselves with your stupid political opinions isn’t compulsory and you can just keep your mouths shut instead

 

[Red Rick]

much like wout, you lads will be pleased to find out that embarassing yourselves with your stupid political opinions isn’t compulsory and you can just keep your mouths shut instead

The irony is strong in this one

 

[fmk_RoI]

Belgians not understanding racism? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you.

Can't wait to see WvA in Rwanda for the Worlds in 2025.

 

[Berniece]

The problem with wokeness that Wout talked about is on a different level that the ones you mentioned, but that doesn't mean he needs to keep quite about that just because "there are bigger problems going on". I'm personally really satisfied that he's not afraid to give his own opinion about all that woke stuff, as most of the well known sport figures just thoughtlessly succumb to it (at least publicly).

There is indeed a case to be made about wokeness being too extreme the past few years, but using the “Zwarte Piet” discussion isn’t the correct topic to proof this point. There is an actual case to be made about the old school “Sinterklaas and Zwarte Piet”. But that’s a whole different discussion for a different topic, looking forward to WVA in strade bianche again this year.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

The woke culture isn't a bad thing because it values certain ideas. It's a bad thing because it unironically mimics fascism in the way it goes about it. There is no room for interpretation, no room for context, only one idea is correct. And if you do not comply, then the only outcome is social eradication (cancelling). Yeah, i think it is a valid concern. Van Aert unfortunately chose the wrong example.

Belgians not understanding racism? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you.

Can't wait to see WvA in Rwanda for the Worlds in 2025.

Congratulations on using a comic book of 1931 to paint "Belgians" as racists.

 

[jono]

The woke culture isn't a bad thing because it values certain ideas. It's a bad thing because it unironically mimics fascism in the way it goes about it. There is no room for interpretation, no room for context, only one idea is correct. And if you do not comply, then the only outcome is social eradication (cancelling). Yeah, i think it is a valid concern. Van Aert unfortunately chose the wrong example.

What would be a good example? Who has actually been cancelled merely for offering an unpopular or unwoke opinion?

 

[Extinction]

What would be a good example? Who has actually been cancelled merely for offering an unpopular or unwoke opinion?

Wout

 

[jono]

Wout

I've seen some mild internet criticism from some cycling weirdos. He has suffered no consequences of note, professional or otherwise.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Wout

What I saw was some people disagreeing with Wout and quite a few people criticizing woke culture. I‘m sure Wout is shaking and crying from this brutal cancellation by woke social media authorities.
Also, are we allowed to debate politics here?

 

[Extinction]

I've seen some mild internet criticism from some cycling weirdos. He has suffered no consequences of note, professional or otherwise.

I was being ironic. Yet I think the point is that we are all susceptible, in the internet age of social media, to having anything we might do, say or write, even privately, used against us with serious consequences if it is deemed by the politico-corporate-lobbying (and there are many) establishment to infringe upon a hegemonic politically correct, neo-moralism that has taken over, often for convenience, power and profit, what still remains a highly immoral society and world.

But since we aren't allowed to dispute politics, back to the cyclist who got political.

 

[Extinction]

What I saw was some people disagreeing with Wout and quite a few people criticizing woke culture. I‘m sure Wout is shaking and crying from this brutal cancellation by woke social media authorities.
Also, are we allowed to debate politics here?

What I think Wout meant was that it's dangerous when you can come under moral suspicion or judgment, simply for not vehemently taking up the cause.

 

[pman]

{spoilers below}







I am by no means a big cycle cross fan but boy that race today was pure gold. Van aert pulling it out in a sprint. Wow. If that doesn't make you want to watch a cycle cross race, nothing will.

 

[fmk_RoI]

Who has actually been cancelled merely for offering an unpopular or unwoke opinion?

Jeremy Clarkson!
He keeps telling us how much he's been cancelled, via his Sun column and his Amazon shows and his regular appearances elsewhere. Decancel the Clarkson!

 

[fmk_RoI]

Congratulations on using a comic book of 1931 to paint "Belgians" as racists.

Thanks man. So glad you got the use of a comic t make a point. Respect.

 

[Netserk]

Also, are we allowed to debate politics here?

No.

 

[topcat]

What would be a good example? Who has actually been cancelled merely for offering an unpopular or unwoke opinion?

Entire stages have been Cancellared. Back of the net.
P.S. it's the off season, so I wasn't expecting excitement, but the forum has entered the toe curling phase.

 

[RedheadDane]

P.S. it's the off season, so I wasn't expecting excitement, but the forum has entered the toe curling phase.

Toe curling seems like an interesting sport. If somewhat painful...

 

[fmk_RoI]

Toe curling seems like an interesting sport.

René Vietto is the only cyclist I can think of could play it, unless he let everyone else play with his toe.

Are there any other phalanges-challenged cyclists out there I should know about?

 

[tobydawq]

René Vietto is the only cyclist I can think of could play it, unless he let everyone else play with his toe.

Are there any other phalanges-challenged cyclists out there I should know about?

Well, obviously his sidekick, Apo Lazaridès, who had to cut off his toe as well.

I wonder if that really happened or is just a myth who was made to survive.

 

[RedheadDane]

René Vietto is the only cyclist I can think of could play it, unless he let everyone else play with his toe.

Are there any other phalanges-challenged cyclists out there I should know about?

I was thinking more... "Setting the stone in motion with your toes".