Teams & Riders Official Wout Van Aert thread

[DNP-Old]

The problem isn't the gift of GW. The problem was not getting the big wins he is capable of, was targeting, and actually cares about. If he gifts it or not it makes no difference, it would still be a underperforming season.

Van Aert is a riding paradox. On one hand he is a rider of stature who should compete only for monuments, on the other hand he and his palmares aren't good enough to give away Wevelgem.

 

[Boes]

I doubt he'll GC a grand tour without first trying to GC one week tours like P-N or Tirreno.
Probably just monuments, stage victories in Giro and WC & Olympics.

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

I doubt he'll GC a grand tour without first trying to GC one week tours like P-N or Tirreno.
Probably just monuments, stage victories in Giro and WC & Olympics.

He was second in Tirreno two years ago.

 

[SafeBet]

I doubt he'll GC a grand tour without first trying to GC one week tours like P-N or Tirreno.

He podiumed Tirreno Adriatico two years ago.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Probably Just wishful thinking/some Hype by La Gazzetta.
Stagehunting after the Classics to prepare for the Olympics ist reasonable, trying to target both the cobbled classics and the gc at the Giro is Madness.

 

[Netserk]

He could end up ~5th with his Tour weight by joining breakaways.

 

[Wyndbrook]

Not sure why many get worked up about him gifting races.
Quite rightly he can do what he likes. I'm sure his employer has no issues with it.

 

[Blanco]

The problem isn't the gift of GW. The problem was not getting the big wins he is capable of, was targeting, and actually cares about. If he gifts it or not it makes no difference, it would still be a underperforming season.

So, if that's the case, did he ever had a "performing" season then, other than 2020?

 

[Bolder]

So, if that's the case, did he ever had a "performing" season then, other than 2020?

Not to my mind, despite picking up a ton of points in 21 and 22.

If you told me in 2018 that he'd have just 1 each of MSR, Amstel and SB as his only big one-day race wins in the next five years, I wouldn't have believed you.

All that said, he's done some mind-blowing stuff in the TDF, so maybe that’s his real legacy.

 

[Red Rick]

He could end up ~5th with his Tour weight by joining breakaways.

He won't get to drop 20 minutes whenever he wants to though.

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

What I don't understand though, if they are actually going for this, and want to do it properly, forget about the classics. You can't be 100% at De Ronde and Roubaix, in the right shape, and then also do the Giro. They both need a different physique, so he needs to choose, and the other won't go as planned.

This was my thought. He needs to be heavier for Roubaix than the Giro, so thin as he can be for the Giro...seems like not enough time to get down in weight. Even 10K meters less than last year, is still a lot of climbing...However, with Skelator, Ski Jumper, Boy Whiner and Helmet Hair all doing the Tour...maybe more of a chance than not?

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

I’d prefer to see wva stop cyclocross and GTs and go into every single one day road race he can find. And win them all

No

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

So, if that's the case, did he ever had a "performing" season then, other than 2020?

Yeah, every f**king year...this type of comment is sofa king stupid. He has performed extremely well every year he has raced.

 

[theyoungest]

As expected, it's a BS story. Jumbo haven't even had their discussions about the rider's programmes for next year yet.

Richard Plugge: “Jumbo-Visma beslist in december over Giro-start Wout van Aert”

Teammanager Richard Plugge van Jumbo-Visma noemt het verhaal van La Gazzetta dello Sport dat Wout van Aert komend jaar in de Giro d’Italia zijn debuut maakt voorbarig. “Zo ver zijn wij nog niet in proces van het maken van de plannen voor 2024”, zegt Plugge tegen WielerFlits. La Gazzetta dello...

www.wielerflits.nl

 

[Lequack]

So they won't allow him to ride the Giro because Vinge needs him for the Tour, is what Jumbo is saying?

 

[Hugh Januss]

As expected, it's a BS story. Jumbo haven't even had their discussions about the rider's programmes for next year yet.

Richard Plugge: “Jumbo-Visma beslist in december over Giro-start Wout van Aert”

Teammanager Richard Plugge van Jumbo-Visma noemt het verhaal van La Gazzetta dello Sport dat Wout van Aert komend jaar in de Giro d’Italia zijn debuut maakt voorbarig. “Zo ver zijn wij nog niet in proces van het maken van de plannen voor 2024”, zegt Plugge tegen WielerFlits. La Gazzetta dello...

www.wielerflits.nl

To be fair the article (or at least the headline which is all I can read) didn't say Wout was going to the Giro, it just said that he was "expected" to go to the Giro. Maybe the writer is the only one who expects it at this time?

 

[dazaau]

So, if that's the case, did he ever had a "performing" season then, other than 2020?

Yeah, every f**king year...this type of comment is sofa king stupid. He has performed extremely well every year he has raced.

Good tour performances of previous years were very impressive, that's been where he has shone and dominated. Didn't pan out this year. So it wasn't a great year for him. PR he was looking very good and was unlucky.

I never said he wasn't good this year, he just didn't get the wins. Partly due to bad luck, sometimes due to not being the best rider on the day and partly due to prioritizing tour over other goals, or even prioritizing team goals over his own.

I doubt if you ask wout if he is content with his results this year he says yes.

 

[scribers]

Wout’s chief rivals have figured him out just enough these days. Don’t go to the line with him. Get away a little earlier and be strong enough to stay away

 

[Salvarani]

To be fair the article (or at least the headline which is all I can read) didn't say Wout was going to the Giro, it just said that he was "expected" to go to the Giro. Maybe the writer is the only one who expects it at this time?

Or you know... someone close to Van Aerts camp is leaking info to put pressure on Jumbo to do what Wout may want for himself next year.

 

[theyoungest]

Or you know... someone close to Van Aerts camp is leaking info to put pressure on Jumbo to do what Wout may want for himself next year.

Or, and I'm going out on a limb here, this journalist has no info at all and just needs something to write during silly season.

 

[scribers]

Think lease a visma is a little cool on their trade riders at the Olympics?

 

[Blanco]

Yeah, every f**king year...this type of comment is sofa king stupid. He has performed extremely well every year he has raced.

Did you *** read the whole conversation?! It was a question, not a statement!
If you read, I can easily call your comment stupid too.
If you didn't, I can call you stupid again...

 

[Salvarani]

Or, and I'm going out on a limb here, this journalist has no info at all and just needs something to write during silly season.

And of all the things he could make up he landed on that...

 

[theyoungest]

And of all the things he could make up he landed on that...

For the Giro, Van Aert is a big catch.

Think lease a visma is a little cool on their trade riders at the Olympics?

What makes you think that? As a Dutch/Norwegian team, for Visma the Olympics are probably bigger than they would be for a Belgian team.

 

[Rob5091]

Visma keep mentioning Flanders and Roubaix so those seem to be the big Spring goals for them. The Giro though is a going to be interesting to see who they pick.