Teams & Riders Official Wout Van Aert thread

[jmdirt]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/wout-van-aert-unhappy-about-move-to-new-roompot-crelan-team/

Hopefully he can have a good CX season and worry about the rest later. This could be key to keeping him on track for the dirt: "Albert explained in Het Laatste Nieuws on Wednesday that he had left the team to spend more time with his young family, and that he was available to help Van Aert if he needed him."

 

[Ricco']

Anyone can translate the last tweet of Van Aert? Seems like he is saying that tomorrow will be his last race in blue.

https://twitter.com/WoutvanAert/status/1036305922551885824

 

[tobydawq]

Re:

Anyone can translate the last tweet of Van Aert? Seems like he is saying that tomorrow will be his last race in blue.

https://twitter.com/WoutvanAert/status/1036305922551885824

Don't you think it's because he will be riding in the rainbow stripes in the cross races (hence not in blue)?

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Re:

Anyone can translate the last tweet of Van Aert? Seems like he is saying that tomorrow will be his last race in blue.

https://twitter.com/WoutvanAert/status/1036305922551885824

Nice/beautiful race #AntwerpPortEpic ! Some bad luck, hence a defensive and difficult race situation. Actually cornered by Roompot #karmaisabitch #indesandwich #tussendetaco Nothing is so bad that you can't laugh with it! Tomorrow, my last race in blue, dernycriterium in Wetteren.

Also, tweets have a translate button right below the tweet. Not perfect, but usually good enough to understand what he's saying.

 

[Ricco']

Re: Re:

Anyone can translate the last tweet of Van Aert? Seems like he is saying that tomorrow will be his last race in blue.

https://twitter.com/WoutvanAert/status/1036305922551885824

Don't you think it's because he will be riding in the rainbow stripes in the cross races (hence not in blue)?

Crelan - Charles don't ride in blue, as far as I remember. I took it as a confirmation he will leave the team next year.

I tried the auto translate but I didn't really understand ir, especially the Roompot part.

 

[janraaskalt]

Re: Re:

Anyone can translate the last tweet of Van Aert? Seems like he is saying that tomorrow will be his last race in blue.

https://twitter.com/WoutvanAert/status/1036305922551885824

Don't you think it's because he will be riding in the rainbow stripes in the cross races (hence not in blue)?

Crelan - Charles don't ride in blue, as far as I remember. I took it as a confirmation he will leave the team next year.

I tried the auto translate but I didn't really understand ir, especially the Roompot part.

Roompot has orange jerseys. I any case it is his last race for good old Verandas.

 

[Tim Booth]

Wout Van Aert has announced his program for the coming cyclocross season.
September
16 sep. – Brico Cross Geraardsbergen
23 sep. – Wereldbeker Waterloo
28 sep. – Wereldbeker Iowa City
Oktober
6 okt. – Brico Cross Meulebeke
7 okt. – Brico Cross Ronse
13 okt. – Brico Cross Lokeren
14 okt. – Superprestige Gieten
18 okt. – Ardooie
21 okt. – Wereldbeker Bern
28 okt. – Superprestige Ruddervoorde
November
1 nov. – DVV Trofee Koppenberg
4 nov. – EK veldrijden Rosmalen
11 nov. – Superprestige Gavere
17 nov. – Wereldbeker Tabor
24 nov. – Wachtebeke
25 nov. – Wereldbeker Koksijde
December
15 dec. – DVV Trofee Antwerpen
16 dec. – Superprestige Zonhoven
23 dec. – Wereldbeker Namen
26 dec. – Wereldbeker Zolder
28 dec. DVV Trofee Loenhout
29 dec. Brico Cross Bredene
30 dec. Superprestige Diegem
Januari
6 jan. – La Mézière
13 jan. – BK veldrijden Kruibeke
14 jan. – Otegem
20 jan. – Wereldbeker Pontchateau
27 jan.- Wereldbeker Hoogerheide
Februari
3 feb. – WK Bogense
6 feb. – Brico Cross Maldegem

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Here we go. Van Aert has terminated his contract with Sniper.

 

[SafeBet]

So what now?
He signs with another WT team?

 

[glassmoon]

Re:

So what now?
He signs with another WT team?

Now the lawyers will talk... plus he's signed already with Lotto since 2020 (?) so there is only a 1 year/season to "play" with...

 

[Flamin]

Kabooom. A man of principles, I like that. Rumour has it that he has to pay half a million. I wonder if Jumbo is going to cover that (or a part of it), because that's pretty huge.

 

[PeterB]

As per contract template prescribed by the UCI, rider may terminate the contract under these conditions:

1. The Rider may terminate the present contract, without notice or liability:

A. if the Employer is declared bankrupt or insolvent or goes into liquidation.

B. if the name of the UCI professional continental team or its principal partners is changed during the course of the calendar year without the approval provided for in article 2.16.018 of the UCI cycling regulations.

C. if the Employer or a principal partner withdraws from the UCI professional continental team and the continuity of the UCI professional continental team is not guaranteed or else if the UCI professional continental team announces its dissolution, the winding up of its activities or its inability to meet its commitments; should the announcement be made for a given date, the Rider shall continue to perform the contract until that date.

D. in the event of serious misconduct on the part of the Employer. Serious misconduct is considered to include a failure to permit the Rider, despite his repeated requests, to participate in competitions over a continuous period in excess of 6 weeks or over four discontinuous periods of 7 days each, during which periods at least 1 one-day race on the international calendar took place. Where relevant, the Employer shall be required to prove that the Rider was not in a condition to take part in a race.

E. if on 1st October of the year preceding the registration year covered by the present contract, the continental professional team has not submitted registration documents containing the required documents set out in Article 2.16.014bis, this right of termination lapses on the registration of the team in the first or second division.

It will be interesting to see if his lawyers try to use the serious misconduct clause, which seems to be the only viable option from the above (unless something else occurred from the above which we do not know yet).

 

[glassmoon]

Re:

As per contract template prescribed by the UCI, rider may terminate the contract under these conditions:

1. The Rider may terminate the present contract, without notice or liability:

A. if the Employer is declared bankrupt or insolvent or goes into liquidation.

B. if the name of the UCI professional continental team or its principal partners is changed during the course of the calendar year without the approval provided for in article 2.16.018 of the UCI cycling regulations.

C. if the Employer or a principal partner withdraws from the UCI professional continental team and the continuity of the UCI professional continental team is not guaranteed or else if the UCI professional continental team announces its dissolution, the winding up of its activities or its inability to meet its commitments; should the announcement be made for a given date, the Rider shall continue to perform the contract until that date.

D. in the event of serious misconduct on the part of the Employer. Serious misconduct is considered to include a failure to permit the Rider, despite his repeated requests, to participate in competitions over a continuous period in excess of 6 weeks or over four discontinuous periods of 7 days each, during which periods at least 1 one-day race on the international calendar took place. Where relevant, the Employer shall be required to prove that the Rider was not in a condition to take part in a race.

E. if on 1st October of the year preceding the registration year covered by the present contract, the continental professional team has not submitted registration documents containing the required documents set out in Article 2.16.014bis, this right of termination lapses on the registration of the team in the first or second division.

It will be interesting to see if his lawyers try to use the serious misconduct clause, which seems to be the only viable option from the above (unless something else occurred from the above which we do not know yet).

Thought he'll use the lack of communication from team management side as a misconduct but there is no such thing in that paragraph. And I'm not aware of any denying him to start any races by his team... :Question:

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

I can understand his decision, since the team basically IS Van Aert. He's not just one of 30 top riders like at QuickStep or Sky. The only reason the team exists is Van Aert. Obviously, trading, selling, merging without his knowing... would be seen as personal betrayal by Van Aert. Maybe he won't win in court, but i can completely understand where he's coming from. I guess he'll just have to win a couple more CX races this winter

 

[Flamin]

Apparently something happened this weekend that made any further commitment impossible, according to his lawyer, thus ending the contract. Curious what that's all about.

 

[glassmoon]

Re:

Apparently something happened this weekend that made any further commitment impossible, according to his lawyer, thus ending the contract. Curious what that's all about.

Yep.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/van-aert-set-to-ride-as-lonesome-cowboy-after-bitter-spat-with-team/

"Something happened last weekend that was the last drop, there were already a lot of shortcomings on the part of the employer, and that is something that has changed over the weekend, which is why we immediately terminated the employment contract," Van Steenbrugge told Sporza.

 

[lartiste]

He was also not informed about ongoing merger negotiations with Aqua -Blue squad. When disclosed by Aqua - Blue, he was badly surprised and in my opinion asked the team no further surprises like this. And he had the right to do so, since he was main reason for the partners to do the merger... .

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Nuyens is simply making a huge mess out of everything

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re:

Nuyens is simply making a huge mess out of everything

Clearly not the right person to manage a team.

 

[PeterB]

Actually, I have realised that it is unclear whether Wout had two separate contracts (one for road and one for CX), or only one. The paying agent is the same for both teams, so just one contract would in theory be possible, provided this is permissible under the UCI rules. By the way, the UCI CX contract template includes slightly different conditions for its unilateral termination.

I just hope Wout was not ill-advised by his lawyers otherwise this may turn against him pretty badly.

 

[King Boonen]

Everyone seems to be assuming Wout is in the right here with no real info. Based on what's been going on that seems fair, but it's not necessarily true. Hopefully it all turns out ok.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Oh cmon. There's been going on so much *** at that team even without Van Aert (like the bikes and riders speaking out against management). I'm 99,999% certain it's Nuyens being ***

 

[King Boonen]

Like I said, it seems fair, we just can't know it's correct.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Hopefully that means he will go to the WT 2019

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Like i said, even if he doesn't have the law on his side, i can completely understand. He felt like they were shopping around, using him as a posterboy (and we all know he his the only reason this team even exists), basically peddling with his carreer.