Olympics Doping Thread

[akrogirl]

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Doping in dressage is not for performance in the usual sense, but is usually something given to the horse to calm it down or mask an injury. As for rowing, I did get a scholarship to a girls public school that started a rowing program one year too late for me, but a lot of the girls participated in it. Back then the scholarships were based on our Eleven Plus results, and a high percentage of the girls were on scholarships.

Why do all British rowers sound so similar?

They all have filthy upper middle class names like Mohamed Sbihi and Constantine Louloudis.

Yes you are right they are all working class heroes, Sbihi being born in the well known ghetto of Kingston-upon-Thames and Louloudis going to that infamously rough school Eton College. Rowers are by and large very upper-middle class in the UK. We are both British (I assume you are too?), and so we both know there is no point denying that. These guys have sat and dined in the same places as Tory grandees.

Rowers in the UK tend to be from private schools - doesn't make them upper class (if that exists anymore), just wealthy and / or happy to spend their money on education. Eton - yes I would agree upper class and VERY expensive, but most private schools are no where near that cost.

Makes me laugh when some people say that they couldn't afford the fees but happily shell out about the same on cars each year ...

Sbihi went to a state school in Surbiton (still a nice area). The Chambers brothers were from state schools in Northern Ireland. It's changing, but to say 'public school' dominates isn't right - most fee paying independents aren't like Eton, etc. but yes they are a high proportion,

Hmmmmm. As someone who attended a public school, I can confirm that these days Eton's fees are matched by quite a few schools. Anyhow, the key thing about rowing is actually university, not school. Yeah, Eton and Harrow have rowing clubs (which are pretty damn good), but 2 of the men's 4 went to either Oxford or Cambridge. The Boat Race is Olympic level, and a decent number of Oxford or Cambridge rowers didn't row before they went to university. Rowing at university still is predominantly upper-class, but it's not especially simple.

On the subject of upper-class sports, how in the name of God do you get done for PEDs in dressage?

 

[gooner]

Hold on a second. Didn't Michael O'Reilly get busted just recently? Why is he still scheduled to box in the men's 75kg class??

He has been sent home. He's not competing.

 

[What_What]

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List of positive tests/doping-related cases so far.. Any missing?

Before Olympics, didn't compete
Lin Tzu-chi, Taiwan, weightlifting - 'abnormal test'
Michael O'Reilly, Rep Ireland, boxing - ??
Antonis Martasidis, Cyprus, weightlifting - ??
unknown, Greece - ??
Tomasz Zielinski, Poland, weightlifting - nandrolone
Michael Rotich, Kenya, athletics manager - asked for payment to warn about tests

Before Olympics, competed
Kleber Ramos, Brazil, cycling - CERA
Adrian Zielinski, Poland, weightlifting - nandrolone

During Olympics
Silvia Danekova, Bulgaria, athletics - EPO
Chen Xinyi, China, swimming - Hydrochlorothiazide
John Azra, Kenya, coach - posing as athlete during test

You have to laugh.

 

[luckyboy]

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On the subject of upper-class sports, how in the name of God do you get done for PEDs in dressage?

You dope the horse to calm it down.

Wonder if the horses are better than LA at keeping their whereabouts up to date,

There really is no sport around where you can't benefit from something huh.

 

[doolols]

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Another gold for wigans, shameful,

What? He hasn't raced yet.

 

[TheSpud]

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Great to see GB's performance in the pursuit. Hard work, dedication, technique...

God, that Chinese woman looks dodgy, doesn't she?!

Is it such a surprise that GB are good in the Team P?? Not exactly unknown is it ...

 

[Black Betsy]

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On the subject of upper-class sports, how in the name of God do you get done for PEDs in dressage?

You dope the horse to calm it down.

Wonder if the horses are better than LA at keeping their whereabouts up to date,

There really is no sport around where you can't benefit from something huh.

EPO is also used in horse doping.

 

[Brullnux]

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On the subject of upper-class sports, how in the name of God do you get done for PEDs in dressage?

You dope the horse to calm it down.

Wonder if the horses are better than LA at keeping their whereabouts up to date,

There really is no sport around where you can't benefit from something huh.

Croquet. Although I guess beta blockers can be used. Same with darts.


Competitive eating?

 

[panyagua]

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On the subject of upper-class sports, how in the name of God do you get done for PEDs in dressage?

You dope the horse to calm it down.

Wonder if the horses are better than LA at keeping their whereabouts up to date,

There really is no sport around where you can't benefit from something huh.

Croquet. Although I guess beta blockers can be used. Same with darts.


Competitive eating?

Lol, well I suppose antiemetics would probably be the PED of choice for those "athletes" attempting to down 70 hot dogs in 10 minutes. Maybe something else to give them the munchies, too.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

great job on that WR.

dope a ganagel

 

[JosephK]

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Was pretty surprised to not only see another chinese 90's WR being pushed off the boards, but also at the olympics? by 14s? That's insane.

WRs fall like clockwork every four years. Doping is okay.

Not in 5K/10k. Taking a WR in these distances usually demands a bunch of dedicated runners to hold a good pace. In the olympics and the WC you usually see a relatively low tempo with a crazy sprint in the last couple of laps.

So, my friends, how would Ayana's 10K world record compare in degree of ridiculousness to Mr. Froome's transformation from run-of-the-mill domestique to history's greatest GT force in the span of a couple months (summer 2011)? On Ayana's side, I would note that her pedigree was elite world-class before the record, although she was moving up from 5K to 10K -- not unheard of in distance running. Just tossing it out there to flog the Froome horse a bit.

Also, I might point out that she was paced, in a sense, by the strong Kenyan runner for about 5K of the effort. Adieu.

 

[John de Savage]

Phelps is outraged that ex-dopers like Yulia Efimova are allowed to compete at the olympics. It really pisses him off.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BIvYcjLAYiB/?taken-by=justingatlin

 

[TMP402]

I've just seen the track from an overhead view. Is it just me or does one of the straights sort of sag downwards? If it isn't 400m, that's why, I'll be bound.

 

[TMP402]

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Another gold for wigans, shameful,

What? He hasn't raced yet.

Serious Sam is a master of prediction.

Track cycling may be the most embarrassing sport at these Games again.

Swimming way out ahead as far as I'm concerned.

 

[PremierAndrew]

Athletics and weightlifting aren't doing a bad job taking the focus away from cycling either

 

[ferryman]

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Athletics and weightlifting aren't doing a bad job taking the focus away from cycling either

Weightlifting doesn't count.

 

[luckyboy]

All of those sports look in worse shape than cycling tbh

 

[BullsFan22]

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Athletics and weightlifting aren't doing a bad job taking the focus away from cycling either

I find it funny how the sports where the Russians have been banned from Rio, are turning out some ludicrous performances. The women's 10000m, Chinese going 1-2 in the men's 20km walk, probably many WR and OR being broken on the track, weightlifting performances, track dominance from the Brits, swimming dominance from the Americans (and it's up tight Phelps and King who are most vocal and want to see 'more testing' and 'cheaters out of Rio...')

I'll really be laughing when Bolt runs sub 9.5, and Rudisha runs a sub 1:40, among other ridiculous races on the track.

 

[ferryman]

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Athletics and weightlifting aren't doing a bad job taking the focus away from cycling either

I find it funny how the sports where the Russians have been banned from Rio, are turning out some ludicrous performances. The women's 10000m, Chinese going 1-2 in the men's 20km walk, probably many WR and OR being broken on the track, weightlifting performances, track dominance from the Brits, swimming dominance from the Americans (and it's up tight Phelps and King who are most vocal and want to see 'more testing' and 'cheaters out of Rio...')

I'll really be laughing when Bolt runs sub 9.5, and Rudisha runs a sub 1:40, among other ridiculous races on the track.

Wait till you see wee Mo rip it up in 5/10K. Those Kenyan/Mid West training camps are going to prove priceless.

 

[TMP402]

Anthony Ervin wins his second gold this Olympics. The oldest swimmer at the games, the oldest ever olympic swimming gold medallist and his first medals since 2000. Okay.

 

[TheGreenMonkey]

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Anthony Ervin wins his second gold this Olympics. The oldest swimmer at the games, the oldest ever olympic swimming gold medallist and his first medals since 2000. Okay.

He did not swim for 8 years in the middle of that.

 

[thrawn]

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Athletics and weightlifting aren't doing a bad job taking the focus away from cycling either

I find it funny how the sports where the Russians have been banned from Rio, are turning out some ludicrous performances. The women's 10000m, Chinese going 1-2 in the men's 20km walk, probably many WR and OR being broken on the track, weightlifting performances, track dominance from the Brits, swimming dominance from the Americans (and it's up tight Phelps and King who are most vocal and want to see 'more testing' and 'cheaters out of Rio...')

I'll really be laughing when Bolt runs sub 9.5, and Rudisha runs a sub 1:40, among other ridiculous races on the track.

The Aussie guy will be awarded the gold by the time 2020 comes around. Naturally, our athletes are clean.

 

[BullsFan22]

Just take a look at the medal table for swimming. The US has more medals than the 2-6 nations combined. Katie Ledecky just crushed the 800m freestyle. This sort of domination makes the East Germans look like schoolboys/schoolgirls.

 

[Bronstein]

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This makes PSM look believable

Why does Sky or Froome come up in every topic? It's like the forums Godwin's Law. Froome's w/kg that day was 5.99 ffs, Ayana destroyed the world record, after destroying a previously unbeaten Dibaba by 21 seconds in the trials.

6.09 W/kg.

https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily/status/620972797330882563

 

[TMP402]

Just take a look at the medal table for swimming. The US has more medals than the 2-6 nations combined. Katie Ledecky just crushed the 800m freestyle. This sort of domination makes the East Germans look like schoolboys/schoolgirls.

In East Germany eventually the schoolgirls became schoolboys...