Pais Vasco Stage 5: Eibar - Zalla 177km

[boomcie]

But read what you said: "that's what happens when the team spirit is too good. Go Rabo!" That's a) baiting and b) it's unsuccesful baiting because it's nonsense.

Alright, maybe that's a small bait. But it does make sense. Lulu wanted Freire to win so badly, so he pushed him, but this cost Freire the win.
So: big team spirit, big lose.

What's nonsensical about that?

 

[hrotha]

Well, this is a shame. Oh well, atleast proves LLS got some teamspirit first by working yesterday on the climb and now leading out .

Perhaps it's not that he wasn't a team player? Maybe his DS's at Caisse explicitly asked him to not get in the way trying to "help"? I mean, he boxed Freire in and then got him DQ'ed with an absolutely stupid move. If I had a say at Rabo, I'd tell Lulu, pretty please don't help us anymore. Just- just mind your own business, k?

 

[theyoungest]

Perhaps it's not that he wasn't a team player? Maybe his DS's at Caisse explicitly asked him to not get in the way trying to "help"? I mean, he boxed Freire in and then got him DQ'ed with an absolutely stupid move. If I had a say at Rabo, I'd tell Lulu, pretty please don't help us anymore. Just- just mind your own business, k?

Rabo have got themselves a second Graeme Brown

 

[Kwibus]

Quote from the cyclingnews report:

Television helicopter images showed that both Freire and his lead out man Paul Martin ....

Paul Martin... awesome.. and it wasn't Paul Martens, but Luis Leon Sanchez.

 

[boomcie]

Quote from the cyclingnews report:

Paul Martin... awesome.. and it wasn't Paul Martens, but Luis Leon Sanchez.

Who makes that **** up? Paul Martin, seriously

 

[The Sheep]

He's won mine this week. I'm not a big fan, but he's been very useful.

edit: see? And Havetts' as well

Feel mostly sorry for him, causing your team-mate a DSQ like that must suck.

 

[Havetts]

Feel mostly sorry for him, causing your team-mate a DSQ like that must suck.

Same here, by wanting your team to win so much really ironic.

And yes LLS has won my heart today and yesterday.

 

[search]

Who makes that **** up? Paul Martin, seriously

you must have missed the world championships coverage on the bbc, when the commentator suddenly detected close to the finish that there were "two martins" in the german team. "Paul Martin, and Tony Martin, the sprinter"

made my day

 

[jens_attacks]

i think rabobank will try to win with freire but they will fail miserably on that last climb when somebody and duarte will go and win the stage.

lol at least i was right with the first part.

sorry for oscarito but he should know these things better.

 

[Havetts]

Maar in plaats van de diskwalificatie terug te draaien, haalde de jury de manoeuvre van Oscar erbij, die met zijn hand ruimte maakte. Je moet immers beide handen in de sprint aan het stuur houden. Maar als je daarvoor iemand al diskwalificeert, dan kan dadelijk Robert Gesink nog voor ons een massasprint winnen."

"But instead of turning back the decision to disqualify, the jury added the manouevre of Oscar who made room with his. You should keep both hands on the steer of the bike during the sprint. But if you disqualify someone for that, then Robert Gesink could even win a mass sprint for us."
- Adrie van Houwelingen, DS .

 

[Oldman]

"But instead of turning back the decision to disqualify, the jury added the manouevre of Oscar who made room with his. You should keep both hands on the steer of the bike during the sprint. But if you disqualify someone for that, then Robert Gesink could even win a mass sprint for us."
- Adrie van Houwelingen, DS .

No sh*t! The seat sling is hard to ignore, even if it didn't seem to net the win. Bummer for Oscar who had to ride a bajillion hills to get to that finish.

 

[boomcie]

you must have missed the world championships coverage on the bbc, when the commentator suddenly detected close to the finish that there were "two martins" in the german team. "Paul Martin, and Tony Martin, the sprinter"

made my day

That's sad ánd hilarious. I'm torn.

 

[aarnold517]

i don't think it was just the lulu push of freire that got them DQ'ed.

in the video, at about the 30 second mark, both lulu and freire put their hand out and give a slight push to riders next to them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWQuZTrJCJI

still feel bad for freire, he was clearly the fastest one in the sprint, push or no push

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Good ol' Óscarcito. Always good for a contentious sprint at País Vasco. There were two of them last year.

 

[theyoungest]

i don't think it was just the lulu push of freire that got them DQ'ed.

in the video, at about the 30 second mark, both lulu and freire put their hand out and give a slight push to riders next to them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWQuZTrJCJI

still feel bad for freire, he was clearly the fastest one in the sprint, push or no push

No, it was Lulu's sling that got him DQed.

 

[cineteq]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWQuZTrJCJI

The link doesn't work. Any other links?
Thanks

 

[Francois the Postman]

LOL. Just heard this too... that's just dead funny.

 

[Christian]

Bad day for Richie Porte:

hectic day on the bike here in Pais Basque.. dropped, missed feed bag and went down in a crash. Even punctured in groupetto! What fun..

http://twitter.com/richie_porte

 

[aarnold517]

The link doesn't work. Any other links?
Thanks

this one should work

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN4XkzXOCM8

 

[theyoungest]

Bad day for Richie Porte:



http://twitter.com/richie_porte

Posted two days ago...

 

[Ildabaoth]

what an enormous load of SH!T - LuLe was on front of Oscarito and just pushed him to come forward when the sprint wasn't even started- WTF is wrong with the commissaires?

Not so unfair. The push can be considered an inelastic collision, so the speed gained by it isn't negligible. Before physics experts kill me, ok, ok, I know it isn't exactly an inelastic collision, but the dynamic friction in a bike is small, so the energy lost by that isn't high. This means something as small as a couple of km/h gained by the push, mantained by a very brief duration of 2-3 seconds is enough to give you quite an advantage (and those are both highly conservative numbers).

I wanted Freire to win. Rabobank did their job until the end. Hadn't Sánchez blocked Freire, he would have won by himself easily. Perhaps even without the push. But it isn't possible to say the push didn't help Freire, because it does help and not slightly in a contested sprint. And, again, even if one assume the push is useless; it is forbidden. Rules are rules.

 

[Christian]

Posted two days ago...

I see, I assumed it was from today as he finished in the last group

 

[auscyclefan94]

Rabo have got themselves a second Graeme Brown

Don't forget theo bos and robert gesink!