Paris-Nice 2023, March 5-12

[theyoungest]

He's also 21...

Well, yes, but he was way faster last year. Maybe like Jakobsen he's focused a little too much on getting over the hills.

 

[Nick2413]

So what are the damages projected to be for tomorrows TTT? How much time will Jumbo gain?

 

[Boehmand]

Indeed strike/attack, you know what I mean.

It was "the right moment" I found funny

 

[Boehmand]

Kooij has been very underwhelming so far this season... he's always up there or thereabouts, but he just doesn't have the speed. That was quite different last year.

Being a lone domestique/sprinter in a team with no support, is very different to being a protected sprinter with a lead out train.

I don't think Jumbo is expecting him to win stages this race... he's mainly there as a dom, but obviously has the freedom to pick up the UCI points he can in sprints.

 

[Tim Cahill]

BEX have a cracked team and that good TT gear so they could do well here.

 

[Berniece]

So I never paid attention to this, but will the 2023 Tour also have these 6-4-2 time bonuses mid stage?

No, I think higher. 8-5-3, unless I heard this incorrectly from the commentators

edit: I searched for it, at the TDF 2023 during the stage it’s 8-5-2, and at the finish 10-6-4

 

[Skijumper Roglic fan]

All 154 riders finished together, no time gaps. That‘s rare…

 

[Danskebjerge]

I loved how Mads P almost had to count the T's when he talked about the team time trial ...

 

[theyoungest]

Being a lone domestique/sprinter in a team with no support, is very different to being a protected sprinter with a lead out train.

I don't think Jumbo is expecting him to win stages this race... he's mainly there as a dom, but obviously has the freedom to pick up the UCI points he can in sprints.

This is one of Kooij's main goals of the spring. He's not here as a domestique, when the climbs come he will be, but so far he's been a protected rider. If he were only here for domestique duties of course they would have brought someone else. You know, an actual domestique.

No, I think higher. 8-5-3, unless I heard this incorrectly from the commentators

edit: I searched for it, at the TDF 2023 during the stage it’s 8-5-2, and at the finish 10-6-4

Have UAE paid them?

 

[Boehmand]

This is one of Kooij's main goals of the spring. He's not here as a domestique, when the climbs come he will be, but so far he's been a protected rider. If he were only here for domestique duties of course they would have brought someone else. You know, an actual domestique.

I never said "only", especially because everyone knows, that Jumbo are quite good at spreading the love in the team.

However, he's got no riders dedicated to protecting him and no train, because the overall goal of the race is for Vingo to win the GC, and as such he is predominantly there as a dom, except for the last few Ks of sprinter stages... and when the team needs him to fight for intermediate bonus seconds, to take them away from Pog.

 

[Samamba]

Alpecins 3rd top 5 of the season today. What an incredibly day for them!

 

[Lequack]

Van Hooydonck for Jumbo almost crashed two riders before that sprint, pretty bold.

Van Hooydonck defends himself after bumping Matthews in Paris-Nice
Jumbo-Visma rider says he was pushed after Belgian commentator's criticism

Van Hooydonck defends himself after bumping Matthews in Paris-Nice

Jumbo-Visma rider says he was pushed after Belgian commentator's criticism

www.cyclingnews.com

https://twitter.com/x/status/1632863761735245847

View: https://twitter.com/opaisdociclismo/status/1632863761735245847

 

[CyclistAbi]

Congratulations to Mads Pedersen for winning the sprint.

Pogi gaining another 6s on a sprinters stage. All eyes now on stage 3 and TTT.

Look like:

14 15:36:00 UAE TEAM EMIRATES
18 15:48:00 JUMBO-VISMA

 

[houtdffan]

No, I think higher. 8-5-3, unless I heard this incorrectly from the commentators

edit: I searched for it, at the TDF 2023 during the stage it’s 8-5-2, and at the finish 10-6-4

10-6-4 doesn't even make sense. 10-6-2 is what they should be. As it is, someone who finishes 2-3 gets less advantage than one who finishes 3-4 (in the first case, a net of 2 seconds are earned, in the second, a net of 4 seconds is earned, despite only finishing 3rd)

 

[Nick2413]

Van Hooydonck defends himself after bumping Matthews in Paris-Nice
Jumbo-Visma rider says he was pushed after Belgian commentator's criticism

Van Hooydonck defends himself after bumping Matthews in Paris-Nice

Jumbo-Visma rider says he was pushed after Belgian commentator's criticism

www.cyclingnews.com

https://twitter.com/x/status/1632863761735245847

View: https://twitter.com/opaisdociclismo/status/1632863761735245847

Looked like it wasn’t his fault. Sometimes things just happen at high speed.

 

[Landeirovic]

Looked like it wasn’t his fault. Sometimes things just happen at high speed.

This is *** 100% his fault.

 

[Bertram Wooster]

So what are the damages projected to be for tomorrows TTT? How much time will Jumbo gain?

TTT in 2019, 21,5km made these gaps.

Tirreno-Adriatico 2019 Stage 1 (TTT) results

Tirreno-Adriatico 2019 Stage 1 (TTT) from Lido di Camaiore to Lido di Camaiore was won by Brent Bookwalter before and Luke Durbridge. Michael Hepburn was leading the general classification.

www.procyclingstats.com

I expect UAE losing more than 30".

 

[Krzysztof_O]

TTT in 2019, 21,5km made these gaps.

Tirreno-Adriatico 2019 Stage 1 (TTT) results

Tirreno-Adriatico 2019 Stage 1 (TTT) from Lido di Camaiore to Lido di Camaiore was won by Brent Bookwalter before and Luke Durbridge. Michael Hepburn was leading the general classification.

www.procyclingstats.com

I expect UAE losing more than 30".

If they do lose a lot of time It will be kinda hilarious knowing how well McNulty and Almeida did in the TT yesterday. But Teddy doesn't need a team, right?

 

[Berniece]

Looked like it wasn’t his fault. Sometimes things just happen at high speed.

Lol what? Nathan got a slight elbow against him and he decides to throw his bike into Mathews. He should’ve gotten a fine for this. If a sprinter does that in the last 300m he is disqualified

 

[Monsi]

TTT in 2019, 21,5km made these gaps.

Tirreno-Adriatico 2019 Stage 1 (TTT) results

Tirreno-Adriatico 2019 Stage 1 (TTT) from Lido di Camaiore to Lido di Camaiore was won by Brent Bookwalter before and Luke Durbridge. Michael Hepburn was leading the general classification.

www.procyclingstats.com

I expect UAE losing more than 30".

I mean, it's pretty unfair to compare results to 2019 when both teams are a lot different from 4 years ago. However, I am also expecting that Jumbo will gain around 30-70 seconds on UAE but I do think the UAE squad for the TTT is being underrated.

 

[DJ Sprtsch]

Start order (CET)

14:57 Lotto Dstny
15:00 Israel - Premier Tech
15:03 Bahrain - Victorious
15:06 Team Jayco AlUla
15:09 Alpecin-Deceuninck
15:12 INEOS Grenadiers
15:15 Intermarché - Circus - Wanty
15:18 Astana Qazaqstan Team
15:21 Uno-X Pro Cycling Team
15:24 AG2R Citroën Team
15:27 Team Arkéa Samsic
15:30 Team DSM
15:33 BORA - hansgrohe
15:36 UAE Team Emirates
15:39 Groupama - FDJ
15:42 Movistar Team
15:45 TotalEnergies
15:48 Jumbo-Visma
15:51 Cofidis
15:54 Soudal - Quick Step
15:57 EF Education-EasyPost
16:00 Trek - Segafredo

 

[BR2]

Hey, yeah! Who doesn't love a team time trial!

I will just ignore the Jumbos. There are some really nice tt teams at the start.

And Groupama could help out Gaudu here, unless Demare sabotages him.

 

[Bertram Wooster]

I mean, it's pretty unfair to compare results to 2019 when both teams are a lot different from 4 years ago. However, I am also expecting that Jumbo will gain around 30-70 seconds on UAE but I do think the UAE squad for the TTT is being underrated.

I wasn't comparing teams but just showing how big differences could be in this TTT: this TTT is 10km longer than the one in TA. (BTW, in 2019, even teams with very good TT'ers (Ineos) lost a lot.)

But UAE shouldn't be underestimated: Bjerg, Pogacar and Wellens all are good TT'ers.

 

[Red Rick]

I wasn't comparing teams but just showing how big differences could be in this TTT: this TTT is 10km longer than the one in TA. (BTW, in 2019, even teams with very good TT'ers (Ineos) lost a lot.)

But UAE shouldn't be underestimated: Bjerg, Pogacar and Wellens all are good TT'ers.

Only Pogacar is an elite TTer on that team.

UAE lost 33s in 2/3rds of the distance in the Vuelta TTT.

 

[Monsi]

I wasn't comparing teams but just showing how big differences could be in this TTT: this TTT is 10km longer than the one in TA. (BTW, in 2019, even teams with very good TT'ers (Ineos) lost a lot.)

But UAE shouldn't be underestimated: Bjerg, Pogacar and Wellens all are good TT'ers.

Oh okay my bad. Yeah, the differences today should be bigger. Also gonna be interesting to see the tactics in the final km of the TTT with the new rule.

And yeah, UAE also has pretty much their strongest rouleurs in this squad so they shouldn't be underestimated.