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I'm no Dane, but calling a rider a "disgusting rat" is way past what I would consider acceptable behavior. On this forum it is though, so knock yourself out!
Rat is a common simile to traitor (he shamelessly attacked teammates). Disgusting is an adjective describing revulsion, dislike and that is exactly how I fell about his interviews after the stages. Therefore, I do not see anything wrong with what I wrote. Now, I probably would not call him that to his face but this is a public forum where we banter and have some fun so there it is. For the offended ones replace rat with traitor.
 
I've been taught that you're only allowed to punch up, so naturally Danes are the most legitimate target.

That's a good lesson, but nonetheless I think it's ugly in general. If you take it as a token of appreciation, all the better for you, but we should draw a line at some point to have a civil discussion. Because usually these kind of things only lead to hate and devision. And I think we have enough of that already at the moment.

That being said I really don't agree with Vingegaard that just because your cold, you shoudln't race in an outdoor sport. Security I get as an argument, and I think it's quite fair to neutralize parts of the race when they are to dangerous, but this seems a bit lame to me. Oh I am still cold.
 
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That's a good lesson, but nonetheless I think it's ugly in general. If you take it as a token of appreciation, all the better for you, but we should draw a line at some point to have a civil discussion. Because usually these kind of things only lead to hate and devision. And I think we have enough of that already at the moment.

That being said I really don't agree with Vingegaard that just because your cold, you shoudln't race in an outdoor sport. Security I get as an argument, and I think it's quite fair to neutralize parts of the race when they are to dangerous, but this seems a bit lame to me. Oh I am still cold.
While I disagree with the original slur, I am enjoying the conversation it provoked. It's a nice break from people pumping up the 2 superpowers of Visma and UAE.
 
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While I disagree with the original slur, I am enjoying the conversation it provoked. It's a nice break from people pumping up the 2 superpowers of Visma and UAE.

If we need slurs like this for an enjoyable conversation to break out, don't you think we're doing something wrong in
general?

Slurs and banter can be fun, and I am not against them in general, but we should stop at normalizing dehumanizing speech, even if it leads to some funny comments, just because of a *** bike race.
 
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If we need slurs like this for an enjoyable conversation to break out, don't you think we're doing something wrong in
general?

Slurs and banter can be fun, and I am not against them in general, but we should stop at normalizing dehumanizing speech, even if it leads to some funny comments, just because of a *** bike race.
Yes. Of course. Every system in every place is bang out of order.
 
That's a good lesson, but nonetheless I think it's ugly in general. If you take it as a token of appreciation, all the better for you, but we should draw a line at some point to have a civil discussion. Because usually these kind of things only lead to hate and devision. And I think we have enough of that already at the moment.

That being said I really don't agree with Vingegaard that just because your cold, you shoudln't race in an outdoor sport. Security I get as an argument, and I think it's quite fair to neutralize parts of the race when they are to dangerous, but this seems a bit lame to me. Oh I am still cold.
If I understand him correctly it's the neutralization and starting up again that brothers him. You can lose the race right there, without doing any racing at all. I'm not sure I agree with him, but the organizers really need to have a very good reason for letting the riders stand around like that.
 
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