Paris-Nice 2025, March 9-16

[Rechtschreibfehler]

If I understand him correctly it's the neutralization and starting up again that brothers him. You can lose the race right there, without doing any racing at all. I'm not sure I agree with him, but the organizers really need to have a very good reason for letting the riders stand around like that.

Fair point. It was chaotic though, this can happen in outdoor sports, it's part of it imo. And he and others were clearly still capable of competing, maybe just not under perfect conditions. But we cannot strive for perfect conditions in outdoor sports, otherwise we'd have to stop them.

 

[Netserk]

If I understand him correctly it's the neutralization and starting up again that brothers him. You can lose the race right there, without doing any racing at all. I'm not sure I agree with him, but the organizers really need to have a very good reason for letting the riders stand around like that.

The best would have been a rolling neutralisation where they never got off the bikes, but once they had them stop then this was the best they could make of it.

 

[Berniece]

I don't know I just feel like he hasn't make actual progression since 2023. In general I expected more from him. It isn't a dig, I like him, but at some point you gotta wonder if his potenital is just not that or if something needs to change.

You think it’s the environment and living in the shadow of Evenepoel? Could be, it’s like he peaked in 2022.

 

[tobydawq]

That's a good lesson, but nonetheless I think it's ugly in general. If you take it as a token of appreciation, all the better for you, but we should draw a line at some point to have a civil discussion. Because usually these kind of things only lead to hate and devision. And I think we have enough of that already at the moment.

That being said I really don't agree with Vingegaard that just because your cold, you shoudln't race in an outdoor sport. Security I get as an argument, and I think it's quite fair to neutralize parts of the race when they are to dangerous, but this seems a bit lame to me. Oh I am still cold.

Where exactly is all this Dane bashing you claim to see?

I certainly don't feel offended, so I think it's a massive overreaction on your part to take it so seriously.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

tbf id be mad if i lost a bike race to Almeida too

50 year old roglic beat almida with a dislocated shoulder.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

50 year old roglic beat almida with a dislocated shoulder.

He shouldn't be beating anyone with his shoulder, dislocated or not.

 

[Unchained]

Where exactly is all this Dane bashing you claim to see?

I certainly don't feel offended, so I think it's a massive overreaction on your part to take it so seriously.

I second that!! Hardly see Danish, Swede, Dutch, Canadians getting slurred.. (?)
I don't like their fish, but pastry, beer, cheese and stereotypes of tall good looking people.. Don't see it.

 

[Didinho]

I've been studying Almeida for 2 years now and came to the conclusion that this doesn't make any sense.

A shame their bad TTT could cost him the GC win. But what a win today. Hope he can get a podium in the Tour.

 

[Cookster15]

Nice win by Almeida. Very strong in the final and to actually get a time gap. Also good ride for Vingo. PN is just a check in for him so he looks on track for the Tour. A bit disappointed that Jorgenson wasn't closer. But the biggest disappointment was O'Connor.

 

[tobydawq]

Nice win by Almeida. Very strong in the final and to actually get a time gap. Also good ride for Vingo. PN is just a check in for him so he looks on track for the Tour. A bit disappointed that Jorgenson wasn't closer. But the biggest disappointment was O'Connor.

I think O'Connor wasn't ready when they restarted. As in he wasn't in the peloton at the time. The same for Gall and Vlasov.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

There are times where I think Vingegaard actively wants to be as unpopular as possible. This is one of those times.

If you don't want to ride in the cold, then *** off to your mountain for the first five months of the year and don't come off it until Dauphiné, would probably make for better one-week races too.

 

[Red Rick]

There are times where I think Vingegaard actively wants to be as unpopular as possible.

You know he wants to because he wants to beat Pogacar again.

 

[Cookster15]

I think O'Connor wasn't ready when they restarted. As in he wasn't in the peloton at the time. The same for Gall and Vlasov.

Thanks, I only watched the last 2km.

 

[tobydawq]

Thanks, I only watched the last 2km.

Suffice it to say you don't have the full picture of the stage then.

 

[ciranda]

Vingegaard is in his own world and does not know how to perform TOUGH KILLER INSTINCT CYCLIST MAN dressed in bright colors for tv cameras and *fans*

but obviously he is seriously determined and ambitious and as tough as anyone

 

[search]

based on his Strava, O'Connor started the climb sth like 1:20 behind the peloton, and went on to lose another 50s. Gall a bit less (if they started it together).

But as we don't know how much more energy they had spent before, it's obviously difficult to compare.

 

[Gratemans]

Vingegaard is in his own world and does not know how to perform TOUGH KILLER INSTINCT CYCLIST MAN dressed in bright colors for tv cameras and *fans*

but obviously he is seriously determined and ambitious and as tough as anyone

That's actually oddly on point.

 

[Lequack]

Almeida arrives to France. Shame about Buitrago crashing, he was a real contender for the GC.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Almeida arrives to France. Shame about Buitrago crashing, he was a real contender for the GC.

Hang it in the Louvre

 

[Lequack]

Update on Buitrago:
"According to Caracol Sports, Santi Buitrago has a fracture in one of his hands, more precisely on a finger, but beyond that, his retirement from Paris Nice is due to a concussion. The cyclist had a lot of headache and chose to withdraw him from the competition."

La fractura que presenta Santiago Buitrago tras la fuerte caída en la París Niza

Santiago Buitrago era gran candidato en la general de la París - Niza y ahora se concentra en una óptima recuperación.

bolavip.com

 

[Netserk]

The beer is expensive in Copenhagen.
Too expensive.
So there.

It's cheaper than in Norway and Sweden.

 

[Bertram Wooster]

It's cheaper than in Norway and Sweden.

And cheaper than in Iceland.

How much for a beer in Greenland?

 

[Netserk]

And cheaper than in Iceland.

How much for a beer in Greenland?

It's one of the most expensive places in the world.

 

[Sciatic]

If I understand him correctly it's the neutralization and starting up again that brothers him. You can lose the race right there, without doing any racing at all. I'm not sure I agree with him, but the organizers really need to have a very good reason for letting the riders stand around like that.

Being very cold can affect performance whether someone complains about the cold or not. Especially some of these guys with -1.3% body fat. Interesting though, the one guy who didn't seem to mind the cold at all (going by his smiling and laughing) was Pollit.

 

[Sciatic]

it never works out anyway. They just get going whenever they want.

They definitely did a better job with the restart this time, and the race director explained (in French) exactly how they would do the restart with time gaps. Much better than we usually get on these kind of occassions.