Paul Seixas

[Rob5091]

If the guy keeps this up until the end of October, then I reckon something's up ... oh wait a moment, that's the norm now.

 

[Pantani Attacks]

If the guy keeps this up until the end of October, then I reckon something's up ... oh wait a moment, that's the norm now.

Power of eating an extra plate of white rice at night and an extra portion of porridge and brown sugar in the morning does for you! Contador might have hit 8w/kg if he put the steak knife down and carbed up!

 

[Notarobot]

It won't be long until the Tour de France is done in 20 days instead of 21.

 

[Cookster15]

But you have seen enough to know when to look away, @Ilmaestro99 ? Many laypeople are concerned and asking questions. I do wish some serious journalists and reporters would do more of it.

But in this universe, why is he so much better than all the other dopers? He is clearly a great talent who was on level with the GT podium guys in Algarve and clearly better than a moderately strong field today. Ayuso and Almeida would probably follow if they were racing in Faun Ardeche.

Feel free to give him the benefit of the doubt. We don't know all the relevant facts.

Not a single serious person has ever claimed to know the limits of human physiology. There could and perhaps should be 1000's of Pogacar's out there who never competed on a bike.


Pourquoi pas?

Hadn't really followed this thread until today. But this post sums up my thoughts on this guy.

Seems the peloton found another super responder? We should have known about super responders since Armstrong's time. I don't think Paul Seixas is doing anything the other top riders are not - why would he be? His physiology just responds to 'methods' better than most others.

But it is refreshing a rider outside UAE is being questioned. Can't blame it on Mauro Giannetti this time. I am looking forward to Strade Bianche.

 

[Red Rick]

Hadn't really followed this thread until today. But this post sums up my thoughts on this guy.

Seems the peloton found another super responder? We should have known about super responders since Armstrong's time. I don't think Paul Seixas is doing anything the other top riders are not - why would he be? His physiology just responds to 'methods' better than most others.

But it is refreshing a rider outside UAE is being questioned. Can't blame it on Mauro Giannetti this time. I am looking forward to Strade Bianche.

Until we see similarly crazy results against better competition, I'm not going to overreact based on W/kg estimates alone. I just thought there was enough talk to warrant a Clinic thread.

 

[Netserk]

a bit scary to think that hed already be the best rider in the world if he started doping

 

[Rou]

A French rider in a French team in UCI which is led by a French president.
Fun times incoming.

 

[Mayomaniac]

A French rider in a French team in UCI which is led by a French president.
Fun times incoming.

A legit French cashcow coming around could actually be a problem for UAE and their pay to dope/win sceme.

 

[Revelation]

This thread will be fun in 8 years when he'd have made 2024> Pog look like a chump.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

a bit scary to think that hed already be the best rider in the world if he started doping

It is possible he's such a freak of nature that any kind of doping would get him busted right away, or ruin him.

 

[Tim Cahill]

a bit scary to think that hed already be the best rider in the world if he started doping

Like Robo with his unused blood bags 'just in case'.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

@Rackham How do you feel about your compatriot, who's the latest addition to X-men: the New Mutants ?

 

[Rackham]

@Rackham How do you feel about your compatriot, who's the latest addition to X-men: the New Mutants ?

Honestly? Curious. I'm curious to see whether he's going to hit a plateau early like many young riders do in this sport since riders started bursting onto the scene and winning things early over the past half decade.

I see with Seixas the same "omg he's only 19 imagine how strong he'll become!" hype but personally I'm way more reserved since we've had a few riders (okay maybe not as strong as Seixas at his age but the point remains) who've exploded onto the scene and then... just plateaued.

Ayuso, Evenepoel to an extent, Tarling in ITT's etc. we're seeing lots of youngsters in this era yes but do they all automatically have a massive amount of headroom for improvement? Based on lots of examples - no.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Honestly? Curious. I'm curious to see whether he's going to hit a plateau early like many young riders do in this sport since riders started bursting onto the scene and winning things early over the past half decade.

I see with Seixas the same "omg he's only 19 imagine how strong he'll become!" hype but personally I'm way more reserved since we've had a few riders (okay maybe not as strong as Seixas at his age but the point remains) who've exploded onto the scene and then... just plateaued.

Ayuso, Evenepoel to an extent, Tarling in ITT's etc. we're seeing lots of youngsters in this era yes but do they all automatically have a massive amount of headroom for improvement? Based on lots of examples - no.

Thanks for your input. Still, his last two performances were scary even by modern 19-20 yo standards. He crushed decent competition in Drome-Ardeche and was clearly the second strongest today ahead of a very stacked field. The best among humans or maybe the second among aliens?

 

[meat puppet]

Let's hope for a long and prosperous thread.

 

[Unchained]

It's so sad, too sad that the UCI is not the focus of all negative everything. Here's a 19 year old shining star and the doping controls that the UCI have in place making catching cheaters like getting a herd of unicorns. Nobody has confidence in anything and you see people have just completely given up. Don't have any enthusiasm for riders or the processes to ensure clean racing. The drug testing from UCI is so bad, so arbitrary, so unreliable, so untrusted that it looks like they are willing to try anything. And this young rider gets smeared, lied about just because, there is no evidence, been racing for years, but not coming up positive is no longer needed for a smear campaign.

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SWZ1hk84kM4&pp=ygUDR0NO


Maybe Paul's power meter can save his reputation before he even starts

 

[Extinction]

In found it interesting, or perhaps telling is the better word, that, at about 15:00 minutes in, Spencer Martin is talking about 19 years-old Seixas doing better watts per kilo than Armstrong did on the Madone climb above Nice, his big test on the eve his winning Tours to see his state of form, and George was silent, while Johan gave a seemingly uncomfortable terse response. As if, don't bring that up Martin; it looks bad to make such a comparison to Lance who was completely doped to the gills at those times. And Seixas at 19 does better than Lance but only got second, so imagine Pogacar's numbers. Insane.

View: https://youtu.be/SOot19dgPpM?is=TMygvF5oK9CHsE9A