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If the guy keeps this up until the end of October, then I reckon something's up ... oh wait a moment, that's the norm now.
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Power of eating an extra plate of white rice at night and an extra portion of porridge and brown sugar in the morning does for you! Contador might have hit 8w/kg if he put the steak knife down and carbed up!
It won't be long until the Tour de France is done in 20 days instead of 21.
Cookster15
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- May 14, 2011
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Hadn't really followed this thread until today. But this post sums up my thoughts on this guy.
Seems the peloton found another super responder? We should have known about super responders since Armstrong's time. I don't think Paul Seixas is doing anything the other top riders are not - why would he be? His physiology just responds to 'methods' better than most others.
But it is refreshing a rider outside UAE is being questioned. Can't blame it on Mauro Giannetti this time. I am looking forward to Strade Bianche.
- Feb 20, 2012
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Until we see similarly crazy results against better competition, I'm not going to overreact based on W/kg estimates alone. I just thought there was enough talk to warrant a Clinic thread.
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a bit scary to think that hed already be the best rider in the world if he started doping
A French rider in a French team in UCI which is led by a French president.
Fun times incoming.
Fun times incoming.
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It is possible he's such a freak of nature that any kind of doping would get him busted right away, or ruin him.
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Honestly? Curious. I'm curious to see whether he's going to hit a plateau early like many young riders do in this sport since riders started bursting onto the scene and winning things early over the past half decade.
I see with Seixas the same "omg he's only 19 imagine how strong he'll become!" hype but personally I'm way more reserved since we've had a few riders (okay maybe not as strong as Seixas at his age but the point remains) who've exploded onto the scene and then... just plateaued.
Ayuso, Evenepoel to an extent, Tarling in ITT's etc. we're seeing lots of youngsters in this era yes but do they all automatically have a massive amount of headroom for improvement? Based on lots of examples - no.
- Jul 7, 2013
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Thanks for your input. Still, his last two performances were scary even by modern 19-20 yo standards. He crushed decent competition in Drome-Ardeche and was clearly the second strongest today ahead of a very stacked field. The best among humans or maybe the second among aliens?
- May 29, 2011
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Let's hope for a long and prosperous thread.
It's so sad, too sad that the UCI is not the focus of all negative everything. Here's a 19 year old shining star and the doping controls that the UCI have in place making catching cheaters like getting a herd of unicorns. Nobody has confidence in anything and you see people have just completely given up. Don't have any enthusiasm for riders or the processes to ensure clean racing. The drug testing from UCI is so bad, so arbitrary, so unreliable, so untrusted that it looks like they are willing to try anything. And this young rider gets smeared, lied about just because, there is no evidence, been racing for years, but not coming up positive is no longer needed for a smear campaign.
View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SWZ1hk84kM4&pp=ygUDR0NO
Maybe Paul's power meter can save his reputation before he even starts
Maybe Paul's power meter can save his reputation before he even starts
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In found it interesting, or perhaps telling is the better word, that, at about 15:00 minutes in, Spencer Martin is talking about 19 years-old Seixas doing better watts per kilo than Armstrong did on the Madone climb above Nice, his big test on the eve his winning Tours to see his state of form, and George was silent, while Johan gave a seemingly uncomfortable terse response. As if, don't bring that up Martin; it looks bad to make such a comparison to Lance who was completely doped to the gills at those times. And Seixas at 19 does better than Lance but only got second, so imagine Pogacar's numbers. Insane.
View: https://youtu.be/SOot19dgPpM?is=TMygvF5oK9CHsE9A
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But Armstrong had not discovered the good nutrition yet, so he probably had not eaten since before the Dauphine
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Pretty much this. Teddy has chubby face and calves and still has huge w/kg. No need to starve.
Armstrong on Madone is strange anyway. We know the time and also the segment he did. I don't know the exact date, but it was in 1999. Normally there is a tailwind on this sector, but I calculated it with zero wind.
The results are far below 7 w/kg, especially as I doubt they were already thinking in 60kg etalon w/kg in 1999. According to my calc he maybe did around 6.6 real w/kg for 30 minutes. This also fits better with his TT on Mont Ventoux in June 99 (6.27 eW/kg for 57:52).
So unless he used some specifically heavy equipment for the test or there was a roaring headwind, I really doubt he did 7 W/kg for 30 minutes in 1999. (And the great Tom Danielson also claims to have beaten Armstrong's time a few years later)
The results are far below 7 w/kg, especially as I doubt they were already thinking in 60kg etalon w/kg in 1999. According to my calc he maybe did around 6.6 real w/kg for 30 minutes. This also fits better with his TT on Mont Ventoux in June 99 (6.27 eW/kg for 57:52).
So unless he used some specifically heavy equipment for the test or there was a roaring headwind, I really doubt he did 7 W/kg for 30 minutes in 1999. (And the great Tom Danielson also claims to have beaten Armstrong's time a few years later)
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I thought Armstrong did the Madone on multiple occasions, but, in any case , he was heavilly on EPO, GH, testosterone at the time. And he wouldn't have exactly been on a fast food diet.
He did it on multiple occasions, but he talked about doing 7 w/kg in 1999 before the Tour on a podcast. Regardless of what he was on at the time, I think Seixas in current shape would smoke Armstrong's time on the Madone.
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