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Actually I said the exact opposite. In a world where people are getting 20% gains from EPO, Aicar, etc someone who tries to eeek out a couple of seconds by taking an extra inhaler is as far as I'm concerned clean.
And I'm frustrated to see fans of athletes, (boonen fans did this, Sky fans did this, now I see you doing this with Farah), try to defend their guys by saying they only bend the rules a little.
If Farah really is so insanely talented that in the cesspit that is professional sport he only abused a little thyroid medicine, he deserves twice as many medals as he has.
Of course I don't for a second believe that is the case.
armchairclimber said:The Hitch said:You are kinda right that sceptic was out of line going straight to the nationality card there. Your posting history does not deserve it.armchairclimber said:You are the one bringing nationality into it, and laying bare your bigotry, not me. Farah is British. I don't believe Froome to be clean for one minute .... he's British (sort of). If you're going to have a pop at me, you'd better find some more secure ground than that.
However I do find your "farah is British" quote strange. Did you think your comment was critical of farah?
You said you don't believe he takes epo but instead is merely "bending the rules". In my book that is about as pro farah a comment as you could make. Even the forums biggest brit homer martinvickers, who strongly believed and argued that brits don't dope as much as everyone else threw farah to the wolves.(though admittedly, only as a way of asking for posters to focus on him and not froome and Wiggins)
If farah can dominate like he has last few years by merely bending the rules a little, even coming close to the 1500 wr, then that means he's doing it all on talent.
I don't get it. Brailsford himself said something like if I cheat or Monday I'll cheat on Tuesday, meaning, that jf you cheat you go all in. Why would athletes only bend the rules a little? What's the point of doing it only a little. That way your taking the same risks as an actual cheater but getting almost nothing from it.
And I don't consider it a remotely brave nor critical position. Feels like a weak compromise - oh I don't want to believe the guy is doping but people will mock me if I say he's clean so let's just say he bends the rules.
Its braver to just say he's clean. If any athlete actually only took a few puffs of cough medicine they are clean in my book. If farah never took real drugs and just "bent the rules" as far as I'm concerned he's clean and one of the greatest athletes in history. I have no time to go after people for taking worthless meaningless shortcuts worth a few tenths of a second when world sport is so polluted with people transforming themselves into superhulks.
This is about the real drugs that make a real difference.
On the Farah front, I think the likelihood is that Thyroid meds are being used inappropriately but I don't believe him to be blood doping. You are right though, abuse of TUEs is doping and should be called as such.
Actually I said the exact opposite. In a world where people are getting 20% gains from EPO, Aicar, etc someone who tries to eeek out a couple of seconds by taking an extra inhaler is as far as I'm concerned clean.
And I'm frustrated to see fans of athletes, (boonen fans did this, Sky fans did this, now I see you doing this with Farah), try to defend their guys by saying they only bend the rules a little.
If Farah really is so insanely talented that in the cesspit that is professional sport he only abused a little thyroid medicine, he deserves twice as many medals as he has.
Of course I don't for a second believe that is the case.