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Teams & Riders Peter Sagan discussion thread.

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Ferminal said:
The 5km @ 9% on the queen stage (or whatever it is) is still his territory imo. Need 30min+ efforts to dislodge him.

Some of the competition's tactics looked ok-ish on stage 2, but Saxo got Pires in the break and ended up doing almost all the work for Sagan's team. Get the tactics right and Sagan's team can get dismantled (Caruso being the potential issue). Of course Sagan could do a Froome and handle everything himself.

Sets up the race nicely.
 
Bushman said:
He rode well in the Tour ITT.

exactly, and what is even more relevant in this case, he did pretty well in this year's TdS MTT, and I think, he's in better climbing form these days. The question is, what is the form of others like Garderen for example. He lost only 40s to him in switzerland. However, he would need time bonifications to be actually able to win this, but he could do top 3, or top 5 based on his performance in yesterdays stage. What suits him is also that this tt is much shorter and there is nearly no flat, on which his TT position matters more. I am not sure, but I think he had better time on the ascent only of the TdS ITT than Garderen.
 
Well if you design and stack the ITT in favor of the local American riders and make it an uphill ITT, of course he won't do well. Make it flat, he will kill it.

Race organizers are a huge factor of the outcome of the race for overall winner.
 
zigmeister said:
Well if you design and stack the ITT in favor of the local American riders and make it an uphill ITT, of course he won't do well. Make it flat, he will kill it.

Race organizers are a huge factor of the outcome of the race for overall winner.

I don't think we should write him off just yet. He has been climbing better than ever on the long climbs this year and also done very well in longer tt's.
 
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zigmeister said:
Well if you design and stack the ITT in favor of the local American riders and make it an uphill ITT, of course he won't do well. Make it flat, he will kill it.

Race organizers are a huge factor of the outcome of the race for overall winner.

It's Colorado. Nobody in their right mind would want to see flat roads in Colorado. Even sprint stages should have an abundance of hills.

East of Denver/Continental Divide to the Nebraska/Kansas border is some of the most unbelievably dreadful scenery. There is a reason no one lives there except farmers.
 
They did get very good youth riders this year. Villella can be competitive pretty soon, Bettiol, Formolo and Mohoric might need some more time but they are all very talented.

Then they still have Moser w ho can hopefully step up again this year, Basso, Viviani, Marcato, Gatto, Caruso, Ratto so they will still have a pretty good squad without Sagan.

They should also sign Federico Zurlo who has the same charistics as Sagan (he will not be that good but same type of rider and he is VERY talented), and I think he will be competitive between the pro's pretty soon.
 
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Dazed and Confused said:
Well, it doesn't matter much if Sagan leaves imo. Moser simply isn't good enough at this point. Looks like they have to quickly get a better foundation. Will it affect how some of the classics are planned?

At the moment Moser doesn't bring big results, but he's got the potential. Basso is too old, and Viviani isn't the big sprinter a WT-squad needs. So if Moser isn't able to go back to his old form, or leaves the team, Cannondale got a big problem.

Vilella and Mohoric are the big prospects, but Cannondale also need results the next year (or two years). I don't think both guys can deliver in WT-races in the next two years (perhaps Mohoric can).
 
Ruudz0r said:
They did get very good youth riders this year. Villella can be competitive pretty soon, Bettiol, Formolo and Mohoric might need some more time but they are all very talented.

Then they still have Moser w ho can hopefully step up again this year, Basso, Viviani, Marcato, Gatto, Caruso, Ratto so they will still have a pretty good squad without Sagan.

They should also sign Federico Zurlo who has the same charistics as Sagan (he will not be that good but same type of rider and he is VERY talented), and I think he will be competitive between the pro's pretty soon.

I think this requires some re-jigging of the classic plans for this year. The team just can't afford to focus so much on Sagan with the way UCI WT license ranking system works at the moment.

And Basso needs to get on the podium at the Giro for sure.
 
Dazed and Confused said:
I think this requires some re-jigging of the classic plans for this year. The team just can't afford to focus so much on Sagan with the way UCI WT license ranking system works at the moment.

And Basso needs to get on the podium at the Giro for sure.

This year it was hard to fill the WT spots so there isnt to much competition. Next year there will be Team Alonso who wants to join the WT, but maybe EUropcar wants to step down again (or another sponsor stops).

With the salary of Sagan falling away they can also sign a very good new rider (as long as Cannondale keeps giving the same amount of money).
 
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Ruudz0r said:
This year it was hard to fill the WT spots so there isnt to much competition. Next year there will be Team Alonso who wants to join the WT, but maybe EUropcar wants to step down again (or another sponsor stops).

With the salary of Sagan falling away they can also sign a very good new rider (as long as Cannondale keeps giving the same amount of money).

I red that Androni wants to become WT in 2015:p
 

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