Teams & Riders Peter Sagan discussion thread.

[justmeagain]

Was listening to a podcast who were pointing out Sagan's selfish riding and not been a domestic for AC yesterday?!?! guess I won't be listening to that podcast again.

 

[No_Balls]

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Originally posted in the Nibali thread it definitively fits here as well:

https://twitter.com/TV2SPORTdk/status/618479993631416321/video/1

Peto was in great shape yesterday.

 

[ad9898]

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Was listening to a podcast who were pointing out Sagan's selfish riding and not been a domestic for AC yesterday?!?! guess I won't be listening to that podcast again.

How can anyone watching the same tour as me say the Sagan is being selfish !! He's been bloody amazing for Contador.

 

[Pantani Attacks]

Best cyclist in the world atm.

 

[BigMac]

That was an impressive display of strenght for sure.

 

[SeriousSam]

What's the all time record for 2nd places at Tour stages?

 

[BigMac]

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What's the all time record for 2nd places at Tour stages?

In one edition, or?

Erik Zabel holds the record for most overall, with 22 second places.

 

[Brullnux]

2012 sagan is making a comeback

 

[Alexandre B.]

Re: Re:

What's the all time record for 2nd places at Tour stages?

In one edition, or?

Erik Zabel holds the record for most overall, with 22 second places.

Sagan is at 13.

 

[BigMac]

Re: Re:

What's the all time record for 2nd places at Tour stages?

In one edition, or?

Erik Zabel holds the record for most overall, with 22 second places.

Sagan is at 13.

He's on his way.

 

[Electress]

2012 sagan is making a comeback

Not only in form, but he seems pretty happy! That kidding around is back as well, which disapered last year, when he seemed a bit morose and frustrated. I honestly think he might enjoy not being the team leader and having all the scrutiny and pressure, yet he's still getting a lot of both direct and reflected glory. I should imagine it is quite a change to be in a team with a big GC hope, maybe he's enjoying that experience? But man, he's still ridiculously young and ridiculously good. I hope he gets some stage wins (and the green jersey!)

That was a monster sprint today ! Wow. I thought he was a bit boxed in then he just burst out of nowhere.

 

[sunnyIce]

Count me in! Big Fan!

The guy is a beast...playing a pretty amazing and useful role for AC and TS. Will be super useful in TT and Descents. Should be consistent enough easily (looking at him), to pick up the Green by the end of the Tour.

I also think this is a great GC experience for Sagan. He will learn a lot from AC and it may help him to a Yellow someday. That would be freakin awesome! Who knows, maybe AC will ride super dom in 2017 tour (after winning the 100th ed of the Giro) and help him to the podium or better

 

[DFA123]

Count me in! Big Fan!

The guy is a beast...playing a pretty amazing and useful role for AC and TS. Will be super useful in TT and Descents. Should be consistent enough easily (looking at him), to pick up the Green by the end of the Tour.

I also think this is a great GC experience for Sagan. He will learn a lot from AC and it may help him to a Yellow someday. That would be freakin awesome! Who knows, maybe AC will ride super dom in 2017 tour (after winning the 100th ed of the Giro) and help him to the podium or better

I'm a big fan of Sagan's as well, but the day he comes close to winning a yellow jersey in the TdF would be the day I retire from watching cycling.

 

[sunnyIce]

Never say never!

 

[PremierAndrew]

Count me in! Big Fan!

The guy is a beast...playing a pretty amazing and useful role for AC and TS. Will be super useful in TT and Descents. Should be consistent enough easily (looking at him), to pick up the Green by the end of the Tour.

I also think this is a great GC experience for Sagan. He will learn a lot from AC and it may help him to a Yellow someday. That would be freakin awesome! Who knows, maybe AC will ride super dom in 2017 tour (after winning the 100th ed of the Giro) and help him to the podium or better

I'm a big fan of Sagan's as well, but the day he comes close to winning a yellow jersey in the TdF would be the day I retire from watching cycling.

Tbf, if Sagan ever comes close to winning yellow, it's pretty obvious most other contenders aren't doping

 

[Cance > TheRest]

Count me in! Big Fan!

The guy is a beast...playing a pretty amazing and useful role for AC and TS. Will be super useful in TT and Descents. Should be consistent enough easily (looking at him), to pick up the Green by the end of the Tour.

I also think this is a great GC experience for Sagan. He will learn a lot from AC and it may help him to a Yellow someday. That would be freakin awesome! Who knows, maybe AC will ride super dom in 2017 tour (after winning the 100th ed of the Giro) and help him to the podium or better

I'm a big fan of Sagan's as well, but the day he comes close to winning a yellow jersey in the TdF would be the day I retire from watching cycling.

Why?
He's a better stage racer/climber now than Wiggins was before 2009 Tour and Froome before 2011 Vuelta.
It wouldn't suit his talents, obviously, but it's not that ridiculous a thought.

 

[Miburo]

Will Sagan wear yellow on sunday? He's 33 sec behind but he still can collect boni's on 3 stages and then there's the TTT

 

[DFA123]

Count me in! Big Fan!

The guy is a beast...playing a pretty amazing and useful role for AC and TS. Will be super useful in TT and Descents. Should be consistent enough easily (looking at him), to pick up the Green by the end of the Tour.

I also think this is a great GC experience for Sagan. He will learn a lot from AC and it may help him to a Yellow someday. That would be freakin awesome! Who knows, maybe AC will ride super dom in 2017 tour (after winning the 100th ed of the Giro) and help him to the podium or better

I'm a big fan of Sagan's as well, but the day he comes close to winning a yellow jersey in the TdF would be the day I retire from watching cycling.

Why?
He's a better stage racer/climber now than Wiggins was before 2009 Tour and Froome before 2011 Vuelta.
It wouldn't suit his talents, obviously, but it's not that ridiculous a thought.

I think you've got the wrong end of the stick. I'm not referring to doping (for one, it doesn't belong in the forum). The point is that if an entertaining, attacking rider like Sagan - potentially one of the great classics riders, who lights up the vast majority of races he enters - turns into a stick thin figure trying to take a few seconds here and there in the last couple of km of a mountain stage, cycling will lose a lot of it's appeal for me.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

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Never say never!

Exactly. We´d had more monstrous transformations (whatever the reason might be). Sagan winning the TdF one day would be, in comparison to some of them, like a fart into the wind...

 

[ray j willings]

I would like to see Sagan dedicate a year to just sprinting ...see how good he could get.
Then after he has done that drop the weight and see if he can compete in the high mountains .....He's a monster on a bike. He seems like he could have it all.
Like a Fab on drugs

 

[Velolover2]

Sagan is the man of 2nd and 3rd places this year.

 

[Velolover2]

Eleven 2nd places this year!

 

[Jagartrott]

He will win a stage this year - he's in much better shape than during last year's Tour.

 

[Gigs_98]

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He will win a stage this year - he's in much better shape than during last year's Tour.

but he has to play domestique for AC.

 

[ad9898]

I think Sagan is making a lot of new fans in this Tour, me included. He's a big name yet works tirelessly for the team and Contador then heads up the road when they've passed the 3km mark knowing Contador is now safe and goes for points or the win. Really hope he wins tomorrow. If he ends up in green by the end of the Tour he'll be my rider of the Tour second only to Contador if he pulls of the double.