Teams & Riders Peter Sagan discussion thread.

[SKSemtex]

Lets hope he win MSR and PR very soon. One think is sure the guy likes challanges and I am sure when his present mission is done, we will see him going down with weight and do some serious climbing.

 

[burning]

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Lets hope he win MSR and PR very soon. One think is sure the guy likes challanges and I am sure when his present mission is done, we will see him going down with weight and do some serious climbing.

I would pray to every single god in this world to ensure that won't happen. I mean, he is already the best rider in the world and there is no need to mess that up.

 

[SKSemtex]

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Lets hope he win MSR and PR very soon. One think is sure the guy likes challanges and I am sure when his present mission is done, we will see him going down with weight and do some serious climbing.

I would pray to every single god in this world to ensure that won't happen. I mean, he is already the best rider in the world and there is no need to mess that up.

Well, if you prefer him to race always the same races, winnig few RVV it is OK. What is the point to be the best rider in the word, if you do not go for other chananges. You are probably right he could mess up but I rather to see him try it and mess up then not to try at all. ONLY winning of all momuments and at least few "real" one week races can bring him the titul "best rider of the word".
For me winning all monuments once is much higher then wunning RVV 5 times.
I do not want him to change to climbing goat just to be able to climbgood enough to win LBL and GDL.
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[IndianCyclist]

For comparison to Sagan's performance check Cance's. Should have been similar. GVA this year is probably much lighter so has more p/w ratio.

 

[MacBAir]

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What a great win for Greg.

What pisses me off is that Sagan was so, so strong. In fact, he seemed stronger than Greg on any single aspect of road racing. So frustrating.

Sagan hasn't been climbing better than GVA this season. Just look at him this season, he's super buff, Greg is skinnier and thus able to climb better.

But yeah, he probably feels a bit stupid right about now.

I agree with you 100%.

I also think that if it was Peter on that group instead of GVA, no one would tow him to the flattish part and he would probably be dropped.

But he is a better descender, he has become a monster on the flat.. I don't know. I saw that descent, those cobbles. He certainly would had even more to this already phenomenal race.

But what a great win for Greg. So deserving.

 

[MacBAir]

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Lets hope he win MSR and PR very soon. One think is sure the guy likes challanges and I am sure when his present mission is done, we will see him going down with weight and do some serious climbing.

For what? Why the *** would he lose everything that makes him so special?

 

[Netserk]

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Would Sagan be able to drop De Gendt uphill like GVA did in the Tour?

Highly doubt Sagan would have been in contention today (but then that's coming from someone who completely wrote off GVA too, so what do I know )

Sagan rarely goes all out on climbs. I don't know what to expect of him on yesterday's route, but he would be able to bridge some gaps on the descent for sure.

Someone else compared him to Canc, but do anyone see Canc do this? (and where do you see Greg in that stage?)

 

[SKSemtex]

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Would Sagan be able to drop De Gendt uphill like GVA did in the Tour?

Highly doubt Sagan would have been in contention today (but then that's coming from someone who completely wrote off GVA too, so what do I know )

Sagan rarely goes all out on climbs. I don't know what to expect of him on yesterday's route, but he would be able to bridge some gaps on the descent for sure.

Someone else compared him to Canc, but do anyone see Canc do this? (and where do you see Greg in that stage?)

Yes , and this was the last time we saw him to go all out and climb with the best.

 

[Kwibus]

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Would Sagan be able to drop De Gendt uphill like GVA did in the Tour?

Highly doubt Sagan would have been in contention today (but then that's coming from someone who completely wrote off GVA too, so what do I know )

Sagan rarely goes all out on climbs. I don't know what to expect of him on yesterday's route, but he would be able to bridge some gaps on the descent for sure.

Someone else compared him to Canc, but do anyone see Canc do this? (and where do you see Greg in that stage?)

Yes , and this was the last time we saw him to go all out and climb with the best.

That was a single climb. Can't compare it.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

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Lets hope he win MSR and PR very soon. One think is sure the guy likes challanges and I am sure when his present mission is done, we will see him going down with weight and do some serious climbing.

For what? Why the **** would he lose everything that makes him so special?

I could see him losing a few pounds and compete for LBL and GdL.

 

[MacBAir]

Does anyone here have any idea of what his post-olympics season will look like? He's certainly a factor for the worlds, so he needs to be great there. Will he go to Canada or do the Vuelta, or any other race?

I hope he doesn't do the Vuelta, so he doesn't have to abandon it to be good for the worlds or even (dreaming) Lombardia.

 

[saganboss]

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Does anyone here have any idea of what his post-olympics season will look like? He's certainly a factor for the worlds, so he needs to be great there. Will he go to Canada or do the Vuelta, or any other race?

I hope he doesn't do the Vuelta, so he doesn't have to abandon it to be good for the worlds or even (dreaming) Lombardia.

it's impossible for him to do the vuelta because his MTB race is on 21 and vuelta starts 20 august. i saw on PCS his next races will be montreal and quebec so probably that's what he will do before worlds

 

[CheckMyPecs]

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Lets hope he win MSR and PR very soon. One think is sure the guy likes challanges and I am sure when his present mission is done, we will see him going down with weight and do some serious climbing.

That's the last thing he should do if he wants to win the Tour. Less lean weight = less power.

 

[carolina]

tinkov said in his last cyclingnews blog that sagan would go to canada.

 

[MacBAir]

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Lets hope he win MSR and PR very soon. One think is sure the guy likes challanges and I am sure when his present mission is done, we will see him going down with weight and do some serious climbing.

That's the last thing he should do if he wants to win the Tour. Less lean weight = less power.

You are the man. I agree that Sagan shouldn't lose what makes him "the guy"

tinkov said in his last cyclingnews blog that sagan would go to canada.

That's great! It will be my first year watching those races as well. I remember watching Phil Gil toying with Gesink (?) on a final, once.

Does anyone here have any idea of what his post-olympics season will look like? He's certainly a factor for the worlds, so he needs to be great there. Will he go to Canada or do the Vuelta, or any other race?

I hope he doesn't do the Vuelta, so he doesn't have to abandon it to be good for the worlds or even (dreaming) Lombardia.

it's impossible for him to do the vuelta because his MTB race is on 21 and vuelta starts 20 august. i saw on PCS his next races will be montreal and quebec so probably that's what he will do before worlds

That's great, but... Does it mean that he will try to "hold" is form until october? I saw on Facebook that he rested a bit... That means that if he has a great result on his MTB he might be cooked in October. Unless he is GVA or Valverde.

 

[Alexandre B.]

Sagan did very good in Florenza 2013, but he climbed quite well this particular year (one of his Tour de Suisse wins, the famous Porto Sant'Elpidio stage, 12th on Flèche Wallonne, good on explosive bergs in Classics, impressive Strade Bianche finish).

 

[Poursuivant]

I think he is in action today in Rio

 

[burning]

The MTB race is scheduled for 21st, I don't think there is a qualification round for the cross country race.

 

[Poursuivant]

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The MTB race is scheduled for 21st, I don't think there is a qualification round for the cross country race.

Ah ok.

 

[Nirvana]

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Would Sagan be able to drop De Gendt uphill like GVA did in the Tour?

Highly doubt Sagan would have been in contention today (but then that's coming from someone who completely wrote off GVA too, so what do I know )

Sagan rarely goes all out on climbs. I don't know what to expect of him on yesterday's route, but he would be able to bridge some gaps on the descent for sure.

Someone else compared him to Canc, but do anyone see Canc do this? (and where do you see Greg in that stage?)

At the Tour de Suisse Cancellara climbed very well when was at his best.
But outside his home country he was one that he prefer to give up in mountain stages to stay in the gruppetto (like Sagan when he didn't enter in the break) so it's difficult to know what exactly was his climbing potential compared to GC guys.

 

[Keram]

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What was it?

By that I mean, was it a high level thing or moe of a gimmick?

https://a-static.projektn.sk/2016/08/sag.png Some amateurs local race probably. He won by 21 minutes margin

 

[SKSemtex]

For those who do not follow his facebook page, there is quite good web page link, regarding his TDF performance 2012-2016 made by some of his fans. Good job

http://www.tdfrance.eu/sagan/etapy_rocnik.php

some statistics from there:

podium 34/105
TOP 10 52/105 !!!

each year over 400 points in green jersey competition (min 409-2013 max 470-2016)

 

[Kokoso]

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Would Sagan be able to drop De Gendt uphill like GVA did in the Tour?

Highly doubt Sagan would have been in contention today (but then that's coming from someone who completely wrote off GVA too, so what do I know )

Sagan rarely goes all out on climbs. I don't know what to expect of him on yesterday's route, but he would be able to bridge some gaps on the descent for sure.

Someone else compared him to Canc, but do anyone see Canc do this? (and where do you see Greg in that stage?)

I think this might be little bit overrated. 47 seconds loss on Alaphillippe, who is not amogst great climbers.

 

[Billie]

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Would Sagan be able to drop De Gendt uphill like GVA did in the Tour?

Highly doubt Sagan would have been in contention today (but then that's coming from someone who completely wrote off GVA too, so what do I know )

Sagan rarely goes all out on climbs. I don't know what to expect of him on yesterday's route, but he would be able to bridge some gaps on the descent for sure.

Someone else compared him to Canc, but do anyone see Canc do this? (and where do you see Greg in that stage?)

I think this might be little bit overrated. 47 seconds loss on Alaphillippe, who is not amogst great climbers.

It's used to prove that he could have been competitive in the Road Race and both Alaphilippe and Henao were 2 of the best on the final climb in the RR.

 

[SKSemtex]

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Would Sagan be able to drop De Gendt uphill like GVA did in the Tour?

Highly doubt Sagan would have been in contention today (but then that's coming from someone who completely wrote off GVA too, so what do I know )

Sagan rarely goes all out on climbs. I don't know what to expect of him on yesterday's route, but he would be able to bridge some gaps on the descent for sure.

Someone else compared him to Canc, but do anyone see Canc do this? (and where do you see Greg in that stage?)

I think this might be little bit overrated. 47 seconds loss on Alaphillippe, who is not amogst great climbers.

Lol . Trolling again? We are not talking tour Alp d'Huez type of climbing here. JESUS.