Phil and Paul

[Hawkwood]

Sherwin came out with an anecdote some years ago. He and his Fiat team turned up for some early season event all smug because they were dressed up in denim jeans, and fake leather jackets supplied by a co-sponsor. As they started to get their race kit on, Merckx, De Bruyere and the boys turned up, all over 6 ft, and all decked out in immaculate Italian suits and silk ties. Sherwin said at that moment they lost all confidence, and they didn't have a happy race.

 

[vedrafjord]

After years of whining I've broken up with both Phil and Paul and the English language and am watching as Gaeilge on TG4 and I must say I'm happy with my decision so far. One of the many benefits is I'm missing the relentless dumbing down. Surely as professional cycling becomes more popular in Britain, the audience will become more knowledgeable and get sick of P+P explaining things to them like they're 5 years old?

 

[GThere2]

You have to love Phil's constant missed prediction's under the 1 km banner sprints. He nearly does this every stage but today was particularly awesome. As I watching Kitowski (sic) make an obvious failed flyer at the 1 km banner Phil exclaims numerous times "he's got it, there not going to catch him" when he never had a significant gap and it was plain to see the sprint trains were going to swallow him whole. I don't know if he flies off the handle on these dumb predictions because of dramatic effect or if he's really forgotten what cycling sprint outs are like...but I must say, I've grown to love Phil and Paul just to listen at for the constant snafu's

I agree, made me laugh, and its the puzzled silence that often occurs for a second or two after the catch, as the rider disappears down the bunch that's true comedy

 

[InterestedSpectator]

Every time someone new comes to the lead in the last kms, Phil will tell us that he could win this one. I think there were about 20 candidates today.

 

[Warhawk]

Sherwin came out with an anecdote some years ago. He and his Fiat team turned up for some early season event all smug because they were dressed up in denim jeans, and fake leather jackets supplied by a co-sponsor. As they started to get their race kit on, Merckx, De Bruyere and the boys turned up, all over 6 ft, and all decked out in immaculate Italian suits and silk ties. Sherwin said at that moment they lost all confidence, and they didn't have a happy race.

That's actually pretty hilarious.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Paul was asked : who does all your research?

He said they have a group who does research but they don't trust them.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtrtEdZB8PI

from minute 2:39

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Van Avermaet and Sagan move clear with 4 km left. Phil informs us that as his standing on GC is +44 seconds, Sagan will push on to try to take yellow.

Sagan has never been a man to underestimate his own ability, but taking >10 sec/km in flat finish against serious chasers? Did Liggett really consider this a possibility (in which case he is seriously deluded) or was he so worried about viewing figures falling off in the last km of the stage that he felt a need to troll and hype up the finish?

Did he really expect any viewer to agree with him about that possibility, and if he didn't, is he anything but a troll with a mike?

 

[Hawkwood]

That's actually pretty hilarious.

I reckon Merckx used his Mafia boss face on them, and it was game over.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

No Phil: river water in the north east of France has not come from the ocean.

Paul: " ..., Lac Blanc, ..., Côte des Cinq Châteaux, ... all very German sounding, don't you think?" No, I don't.

 

[Afrank]

Van Avermaet and Sagan move clear with 4 km left. Phil informs us that as his standing on GC is +44 seconds, Sagan will push on to try to take yellow.

Sagan has never been a man to underestimate his own ability, but taking >10 sec/km in flat finish against serious chasers? Did Liggett really consider this a possibility (in which case he is seriously deluded) or was he so worried about viewing figures falling off in the last km of the stage that he felt a need to troll and hype up the finish?

Did he really expect any viewer to agree with him about that possibility, and if he didn't, is he anything but a troll with a mike?

I hear that Ligget is actually the Latin word for troll...

 

[Hawkwood]

Just earlier Phil thought the peloton was possibly upping the pace, however the time gap to the break was going out.

 

[Hawkwood]

Paul spotted a bird, Phil said it was a black kite, we were then told that these live on carrion and don't hunt things, I think this would be news to black kites!

 

[Merckx index]

Kadri is not a sprinter like Kittel, who can do 100 meters in less than ten seconds

I guess I'm a sprinter, too.

On stage 5, I came in a while after Froome crashed out. These idiots never mentioned that, had to figure it out from the fact that they kept talking about how far Contador was behind Nibali, but never mentioned Froome. And all the while, the bottom of the screen continued to list Froome as two seconds down on the GC.

 

[InterestedSpectator]

Paul spotted a bird, Phil said it was a black kite, we were then told that these live on carrion and don't hunt things, I think this would be news to black kites!

It was a red kite anyway.

In fairness, there was a lot of good info on bike racing today from Paul, much appreciated by this ignoramus.

 

[JeanRobic]

Chavanel is going to keep it under 5 or 6 thousand revolutions per minute, per Paul.

 

[zigmeister]

I learned from Paul today that they have developed special glasses so the riders can see right through the fog and rain.

 

[mr. tibbs]

Chavanel is going to keep it under 5 or 6 thousand revolutions per minute, per Paul.

Chava probably pushed up into the 7k range, which is why Kadri was able to shell him. Too bad Paul didn't radio in to warn the poor guy.

 

[RobbieCanuck]

I learned from Paul today that they have developed special glasses so the riders can see right through the fog and rain.

Its called a transparent lens.

 

[RobbieCanuck]

Paul spotted a bird, Phil said it was a black kite, we were then told that these live on carrion and don't hunt things, I think this would be news to black kites!

No, I recall them saying black kites don't hunt carrion. I think they got this one right. At least that is what I took away from the comment.

 

[Tonton]

No, I recall them saying black kites don't hunt carrion. I think they got this one right. At least that is what I took away from the comment.

How many "years of age" was the black kite?

 

[Tonton]

I liked the talk about Blel Kadri winning a stage, something that he will be able to talk about at the bar for the rest of his life.

 

[Jancouver]

Chavanel is going to keep it under 5 or 6 thousand revolutions per minute, per Paul.

Yeah, that was a good one.

I learned from Paul today that they have developed special glasses so the riders can see right through the fog and rain.

They also said that no rider is wearing glasses in rain while they camera was showing the escapees all wearing sunglasses. Pretty funny stuff.

I usually have the TV on without a sound and laptop with Eurosport with sound on so I dont have to listen to those two clowns.

 

[JohnNordin]

How many "years of age" was the black kite?

Doubtless it was doing a 'job of work.'

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

No, I recall them saying black kites don't hunt carrion. I think they got this one right. At least that is what I took away from the comment.

By definition, carrion doesn't have to be hunted.

Kites are largely carrion eaters, red kites more so than black kites, so they were less wrong than in many of their previous natural history observations. I still smile at "Of course, grey squirrels aren't squirrels at all" every time I visit my local park.

 

[willbick]

To be fair to Phil, he knows a lot more about birds than bike racing!