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Well in some countries that would potentially incur a €3000 fine, which seems to be more sanction than Moscon seems likely to face.I don't think it's the least crazy thing.
Ten minutes ago, I went for a walk. That seemed a bit more mellow.
In Ukraine you can even get to jail for 8 yearsWell in some countries that would potentially incur a €3000 fine, which seems to be more sanction than Moscon seems likely to face.
I think you're being very optimistic.The main thing is the situation on Hungary, by the end of April the number of new infections in italy should be really low, so having a race one month later is not unthinkable.
Good to see we have so many experts here. In the meanwhile, in Italy, some football teams will start training again on monday.
Belgium's most renowned virologist says the epidemic should last roughly 10 weeks if we can keep current measures in place. There is a chance that it will resurface, but that risk will always be present imho.
It will get worse before it gets better, because a lot of people that have already been infected, have not yet had any symptoms and might not even know they are sick. But in the meanwhile the number of newly infected people should start to diminish drastically in the countries where there is a quasi lockdown. We'll know a lot more in a few weeks. It's very possible that this will last through the rest of the year, but that doesn't seem to be a certainty at all either.
My favorite is "we've done nothing and we're all out of ideas"The mass media haven't got a clue. And they've quickly gone from "I know nothing, let's listen to the experts" to "This strategy is wrong. Here's what we should be doing #lookatme"
To quote William Goldman "Nobody knows anything". Situations change daily.
There's a very important other side to this argument.Good to see we have so many experts here. In the meanwhile, in Italy, some football teams will start training again on
While it's quite possible that we'll never know how affected China was, it's rather telling that they are letting their medical personnel leave the country to help out in Italy. It's clear the worst is behind them. Considering they were hit first and two months give or take ahead of Europe, i don't really know why you (or anyone) would persist that 10 weeks is not a realistic prognosis, assuming current measures are kept in place for that period.There's a very important other side to this argument.
There's so many virologists out there you can always find one that supports your argument.
Okay.While it's quite possible that we'll never know how affected China was, it's rather telling that they are letting their medical personnel leave the country to help out in Italy. It's clear the worst is behind them. Considering they were hit first and two months give or take ahead of Europe, i don't really know why you (or anyone) would persist that 10 weeks is not a realistic prognosis, assuming current measures are kept in place for that period.
PS: i also didn't want to pose as an expert, just thought it was interesting how some people here were trying to ridicule other opinions, when in truth, they know just as much as everybody else.
PS2: just read your edit, the point in football teams resuming training, wasn't to say the epidemic is over. But that people are eager to get going again. Even at this moment, when in Italy, it looks like insanity to do so. Even if the virus isn't fully contained in two months, there will be plenty of people that want to get the show on the road. And i'm not convinced that organizing a bike race would be impossible. Cut 90% of press, don't do pre- or post race ceremonies, no public. Just 3 camera bikes and a chopper. Have riders tested before entering... If they wanted to find a way, i think they could, given the situation has improved over the next two months.
Maybe. I don't know, i've been thinking a lot about this. I think they "could" make it work. Cycling isn't a rich sport and needs all the exposure it can get. In a time where olympics and Euro Championships football are likely to be cancelled as well as a big part of F1, the coming months might present a window of opportunity for cycling. Don't allow physical press on the grounds, organize virtual press moments with the riders over social media. No crowds on the side of the road (just like during an actual lockdown). No pre race ceremony, post race ceremony something very "downsized" (no podium girls, no local politicians...). Test all riders and team entourage right before entering the race. I have no idea how feasible it would be to have riders sleep in hotels, or what the alternatives could be (mobilhome? bus? tents?), but if you would really cut all the "excess fat" and restrict/manage interaction with the outside world, i think it could be doable.Okay.
Unfortunately I think cycling is the sport that's about least likely to resume in these circumstances.
Maybe. I don't know, i've been thinking a lot about this. I think they "could" make it work. Cycling isn't a rich sport and needs all the exposure it can get. In a time where olympics and Euro Championships football are likely to be cancelled as well as a big part of F1, the coming months might present a window of opportunity for cycling. (1)Don't allow physical press on the grounds, organize virtual press moments with the riders over social media. No crowds on the side of the road (just like during an actual lockdown). (2)No pre race ceremony, post race ceremony something very "downsized" (no podium girls, no local politicians...). Test all riders and team entourage right before entering the race. (3)I have no idea how feasible it would be to have riders sleep in hotels, or what the alternatives could be (mobilhome? bus? tents?), but if you would really cut all the "excess fat" and restrict/manage interaction with the outside world, i think it could be doable.
It will get worse before it gets better, because a lot of people that have already been infected, have not yet had any symptoms and might not even know they are sick. But in the meanwhile the number of newly infected people should start to diminish drastically in the countries where there is a quasi lockdown. We'll know a lot more in a few weeks. It's very possible that this will last through the rest of the year, but that doesn't seem to be a certainty at all either.
The race will be nice as well because of the lack of preparation also.On a positive note. If we only get one GT this year. Maybe even a delayed Tour in August or September. The level of competition would be all time great. All GC guys contending in the same race.
I don't know if you read my follow up. The reason why i posted that teams want to start training, is not to make a point that it's nearly over. It was to make a point that people are getting anxious to move on with normal life. I'm not talking about Italian races per se.A few football teams might resume training soon because the "quasi lockdown" is kind of a joke. Companies are allowed to decided whether to stay open or not, so if the company you're working for is called AC Milan and tells you to go to work you have to (or likely get suspended without pay, which won't make much of a difference for a football player earning millions per year, but could be huge for the average Joe).
I'm still hopeful the Lega Calcio will prevent them from training anyway. Official decision today.
This is why to me it makes no sense whatsoever to compare the italian situation to Wuhan. The measures put in place here are vastly different and allow the virus to keep spreading (even if at a lower rate).
We don't know how long it's going to take. But it's fair to assume it's gonna take longer here, where an estimated 40% of the working population is still commuting daily to their offices, than in a place where people were allowed outside of their home once or twice per week to shop groceries.