Poor Sportsmanship

[Polyarmour]

Perkins told the Herald that if he had raised one finger at officials as a way of venting his frustration at being disqualified from the gold medal ride-off in the keirin he would have ''gone home myself''. ''There's no way I would have done that,'' he said.

And while he described his double digit gesture as ''a bad judgement call'', Perkins, who was due to meet with Australia's chef de mission Steve Moneghetti last night before shooting for another gold medal today, said he apologised to the race judges immediately after Wednesday's race and that it had been accepted.

I didn't know there was a pecking order for these salutes. So two fingers, you're disqualified, one finger, you're on the next plane out? They're just fingers.

Really you should just make one up, like American street gangs. That one done with the pointer finger and the little finger for example, no-one knows what that means. That way you can vent your frustrations and then explain afterwards that you were just ordering some Clenbuterol free steak for dinner.

 

[Spare Tyre]

[snipped]
''I was just taking a bit of frustration out, and it was the wrong thing to do because they're doing their job,'' he said. ''Obviously on my part it was a bad judgment call and I've taken it upon myself to apologise personally to the judges and commissaires, and they're happy with that. The thing that I want to say is that I'm proud of myself for doing that, and also turning it around and now I've come away with a gold medal.''

Asked whether he wished he could take the moment back, Perkins said: ''Yeah, but you can't take anything back. Once it's done it's done and there's no point looking back on it. Obviously now I've moved on - [I have a ] Games record and gold medal.''

http://www.smh.com.au/commonwealth-...kins-snatches-sprint-gold-20101008-16a1o.html

Now all he needs to do is apologise to the people he is representing, ie, other Australians.

 

[Boeing]

Bruce. The lot of them

 

[rata de sentina]

Get your facts right before you make absurd comments!

Cripes!

 

[auscyclefan94]

Aussie NewsPaper Poll you win !



You lose and not by a thread, so you don't know the feeling of the Aussie in general towards these moral things.

How???? Is their something wrong with your comprehension skills?

Yeah Perkins was stupid.

What he did pales into comparison on what Linford Christie had his two little dames dish out in the 100m womens final last night. They colluded, deliberately to throw the race start off, with one girl interrupting the start. She was never a medal chance and the Poms knew it. Worse, her team mate knew what was happening (same coach) and knew the second start was the real one. She blew it and refused to leave after the official declared here start an illegal break, Sure the Aussie girl Pearsons broke to but the race carried on. Look at Pearsons reaction and then look at the English girl (sacrifical lamb) on here right in the front on for the second start. Fist pump and body language tell it all. Her tactic worked...or so she thought.

After English ***** no.1 refuses to go (moth in her mouth excuse...lame) everyone races. Silly girl lost her cool and the whole Christie pre race plan went out the window. No English medal...so what to do? Protest. If Australia wins and the bad sporting conduct of two English tossers colluding can only bring in 4th and last, why not? So Dim, do respond. Some Aussie flipping the bird...big deal. We have Poms colluding to rig an event. Professional cheating. Body language and behaviour all indicate a strong possibility of collusion. Heck, I called it out live. Linford Christie had a history of BS deliberate false starts in sprints during his hey day. He was also a blatant doper...but which track runner wasn't...not the issue. Two riders with suspect behaviour implementing dubious tactics that their coach used. Heck, Linford *****ed like a little girl when they booted him from the mens 100m final in Atlanta.

So we have bad behaviour versus professional cheating. heck, England couldn't even do that and make the podium. Pathetic. More loser mentality from that sad little island. What happened to everyone for themselves in sporting competition? Oh I forgot, that goes out the door when your coach is gutter scum from England. I dare anyone to say flipping the bird is worse than collusion and deliberate gamesmanship implemented by team mates to ensure one gets a medal. Think I'm crazy? Which of the English girls was faster? The one who didn't interrupt the start. Combine her false start after (she knew she had to get a gun start and her team mates delay did psych everyone else bar Pearson) and the fist pump from the sacrificial lamb, I've seen enough. False start rules changed because of Christie.

Australians are bad sports! Some people act stupidly, Renshaw was and still is an idiot. "I'm afraid of Dengue fever." Please! Harden up chump and be honest for once. At least Aussies aren't colluding in order to win a Commonwealth Medal FFS and when that doesn't work, damn it, whinge like a little *****. Someone mentioned our cricketers attitudes towards Indians. One man. Harbhajan Singh. Ask Srinath Preesanth what that piece of crap is really like. Scum, lowest common denominator. Go to India and sit in the stands. Worse, go to ****stan. Ten years ago there were reports on how vile it was. Sit next to a ****stani man and even if you are a bloke, expect a finger to be aimed at your rectum. This from the Fanatics founders accounts of their first trips to ****stan in the 90s. Yeah, real charming people. Come to Australia, you won't have that happen unless you pay someone to do it. Kookaburras in the cricket last night versus India. India had Austalia on the ropes. 2:1. India were really on fire, so was the crowd (first real crowd all Comm Games). I told the person I was viewing with, that if Australia got a short corner, we'd score. We finally got into their half, got a short corner. Two attempts was all it took to score. We go 3:1. I said then, that India would choke and the crowd, because they possess a loser mentality, would drown down and stop their rauccus. What happened? Crowd stopped cheering. Indian players lost their focus, slowed down, made mistakes, Australia gained possession and momentum and tore India apart. Indian loser crowd left their team to die. They deserted the stadium.

Aussies don't do that unless they are Sydney Rooster fans but they only leave when their team is winning. Aussies sore losers...nah, not by a long shot compared to other nations. We don't abandon our own...well some of us do but most would argue they aren't really Aussies. Their imposters. Posers. There are few on this forum. We don't boo our national football team Dim when they stuff up at the WC. We get behind them and cheer them on. You want a winning spirit. Show some god damn sportsmanship as a fan people. Call everyone out. I call the idiot Aussies out all the time. I don't make excuses for their childish antics and BS. As a fan I don't go to a sport event and leave when my team isn't going well. Lastly, I don't engage in the most despicable act imaginable and boo anyone. Even the bottom of the barrel dopers cycling is littered with. If you booed an Aussie team like the English booed their football team, you would leave the venue in an ambulance. Enough Australia bashing...get some perspective people. There are lone idiots and then there are mobs with mob mentalities. One person upset doesn't compare to a crowd deserting, nor does it compare to a team deliberately milking professional rules to throw off their competitors. The bird...I'm giving to you people who wandered into Idiotville by chance on this thread the metaphorical bird right now across cyberspace. Grow up and use your brains.

I totally agree galic except for the bolded parts. We are not bad sports. I do not like losing but I will acknowledge when someone is better than me.

 

[Sydney Sider]

Now all he needs to do is apologise to the people he is representing, ie, other Australians.

Please , when you do something wrong do you ring up every member of your family or work colleagues and apologise for giving them a bad name , Im sure you dont.

He stuffed and apologised to the people his actions directly offended and they have supposedly accepted his apology.

 

[Galic Ho]

How???? Is their something wrong with your comprehension skills?


I totally agree galic except for the bolded parts. We are not bad sports. I do not like losing but I will acknowledge when someone is better than me.

I should probably apologise to any Brits offended. I think Jensen Button is awesome. Can't stand his team mate though. Slippery weasel. Don't mind Andy Murray either or track and field stars like Ennis.

About bad Aussie sports. It is almost always lone behaviour. Rarely do you see institutionalised bad sportsmanship. I don't mind people playing mind games, but there is an imaginary line one should not cross as a competitor and fan. I went overboard in describing both, but I stand by the examples I used. Rigging or matchfixing is despicable. Slandering and abusing other fans is bad. I could tell a nice little story about the Dutch and the 2000 Olympics, but I'll let that one slide.

As for bad sports, they do exist, go to your local football, baseball or cricket comp. There is always one bad sport. Someone who never learnt social ettiquette. If there is leadership and proper refereeing/adjudication in place most people tend to behave themselves, because they know they cannot push the limits. When people are told they are special and amazing, a sense of entitlement develops. Such people forget you have to earn your stripes, so taking some shortcuts becomes habit. Bad sporting behaviour to opponents/officals is amongst these shortcuts.

As for Perkins...Steve Moneghetti told the head of the Aus cycling track team he would personally deal with the kid. The cycling officials wanted to handle things their own way. Which is typical for the AIS and Track Cycling teams. Moneghetti is a legend in this country. If he says Perkins will answer to him solely, he means it. Perkins won't misbehave again any time soon.

The one person I am pleased with as an Aussie is Nick Darcy. Maybe the foreigners aren't aware of his troubled path. He seriously assaulted another swimming team member the night the beijing team was announced. People have tried, repeatedly to stop him competing for Australia. Almost went to gaol. He had one event in Delhi in the pool. He was 9th fastest. Gave the most honest reply I have heard so far this Comm Games. No food excuse. No "Delly Belly." Just a simple, "I wasn't good enough today." That is owning your behaviour and should be commended. I can live with people not being good enough on the day and admitting it. That is being a good sport. The others were better. Pity we don't hear that more often.

 

[Spare Tyre]

Please , when you do something wrong do you ring up every member of your family or work colleagues and apologise for giving them a bad name , Im sure you dont.

He stuffed and apologised to the people his actions directly offended and they have supposedly accepted his apology.

Of course not. But I am not representing my country in an international competition.

Additionally, he didn't just do "something wrong". He gestured "f#9k off" to the referees. Pretend it's corporate PR: if you are wearing a uniform or acting as a representative of a business it reflects badly on that business and other people associated with that business if you go around giving people the "get fuiked" sign.

If we are going to fund international sporting participation from the public purse then the least athletes competing under the "Australia" banner can do is win and lose graciously as part of the deal. Pretty simple.

 

[auscyclefan94]

I should probably apologise to any Brits offended. I think Jensen Button is awesome. Can't stand his team mate though. Slippery weasel. Don't mind Andy Murray either or track and field stars like Ennis.

About bad Aussie sports. It is almost always lone behaviour. Rarely do you see institutionalised bad sportsmanship. I don't mind people playing mind games, but there is an imaginary line one should not cross as a competitor and fan. I went overboard in describing both, but I stand by the examples I used. Rigging or matchfixing is despicable. Slandering and abusing other fans is bad. I could tell a nice little story about the Dutch and the 2000 Olympics, but I'll let that one slide.

As for bad sports, they do exist, go to your local football, baseball or cricket comp. There is always one bad sport. Someone who never learnt social ettiquette. If there is leadership and proper refereeing/adjudication in place most people tend to behave themselves, because they know they cannot push the limits. When people are told they are special and amazing, a sense of entitlement develops. Such people forget you have to earn your stripes, so taking some shortcuts becomes habit. Bad sporting behaviour to opponents/officals is amongst these shortcuts.

As for Perkins...Steve Moneghetti told the head of the Aus cycling track team he would personally deal with the kid. The cycling officials wanted to handle things their own way. Which is typical for the AIS and Track Cycling teams. Moneghetti is a legend in this country. If he says Perkins will answer to him solely, he means it. Perkins won't misbehave again any time soon.

The one person I am pleased with as an Aussie is Nick Darcy. Maybe the foreigners aren't aware of his troubled path. He seriously assaulted another swimming team member the night the beijing team was announced. People have tried, repeatedly to stop him competing for Australia. Almost went to gaol. He had one event in Delhi in the pool. He was 9th fastest. Gave the most honest reply I have heard so far this Comm Games. No food excuse. No "Delly Belly." Just a simple, "I wasn't good enough today." That is owning your behaviour and should be commended. I can live with people not being good enough on the day and admitting it. That is being a good sport. The others were better. Pity we don't hear that more often.

+1 I was really sad that Darcy went out like that. Shame...

 

[stefank]

Looks like we have an apology plus:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/10/08/3033438.htm

I don't know how hard he was pushed!

 

[Polyarmour]

The one person I am pleased with as an Aussie is Nick Darcy. Maybe the foreigners aren't aware of his troubled path. He seriously assaulted another swimming team member the night the beijing team was announced. People have tried, repeatedly to stop him competing for Australia. Almost went to gaol. He had one event in Delhi in the pool. He was 9th fastest. Gave the most honest reply I have heard so far this Comm Games. No food excuse. No "Delly Belly." Just a simple, "I wasn't good enough today." That is owning your behaviour and should be commended. I can live with people not being good enough on the day and admitting it. That is being a good sport. The others were better. Pity we don't hear that more often.

Pity he wasn't such a good sport when he fractured Simon Cowley's jaw, eye socket, cheekbone and nose. It took him more than a year to give an apology that had as its central purpose, the avoidance of a jail sentence. Karma.

 

[Sydney Sider]

Of course not. But I am not representing my country in an international competition.

Additionally, he didn't just do "something wrong". He gestured "f#9k off" to the referees. Pretend it's corporate PR: if you are wearing a uniform or acting as a representative of a business it reflects badly on that business and other people associated with that business if you go around giving people the "get fuiked" sign.

If we are going to fund international sporting participation from the public purse then the least athletes competing under the "Australia" banner can do is win and lose graciously as part of the deal. Pretty simple.

I personally feel im not owed an apology from him , i can only speak from my opinion though.

I look at a person like Pete Sampras who was the most incredible Tennis player , i still rate him on par with Federer but his whole career he was touted as boring and having no emotion , the media and coporate world were more into McEnroe Agassi and players like that.

Its hard to find a middle ground Athletes who live and compete off emotion especially in the heat of the moment every now will step over the mark.

 

[Spare Tyre]

I don't buy the "We're bad sports because we want to win so much" excuse for bad behaviour.

It suggests Australian athletes are somehow (magically?) more determined to win than athletes from elsewhere.

IMO this is a ludicrous idea and insulting to the athletes from other nations, who I am sure are just as competitive in nature as Aussies, but behave less crudely and less aggressively when things don't go their way.

 

[Galic Ho]

Pity he wasn't such a good sport when he fractured Simon Cowley's jaw, eye socket, cheekbone and nose. It took him more than a year to give an apology that had as its central purpose, the avoidance of a jail sentence. Karma.

Civil and criminal charges were laid. Darcy went to court. The attack wasn't entirely unprovoked, but it was savage. The media went all out to annihilate the kid. Current Affair set him up in one interview for a few ratings. If you bash someone, the police and courts step in. That should be left alone...but if you're an athlete or celebrity it is treated differently. I'd say he paid appropriately for his behaviour.

The one thing I cannot tolerate is how Nick Darcy was treated in terms of competition as a swimmer. Darcy was booted, rightly, from the Australian 2008 Olympic squad. He paid his time and dues. A year later, said douchebag officials step in again and try and stop him competing at the world championships. They'd allowed him to qualify and race. He was going. But no...we have to take our personal moral crusade to another level. I don't have a problem with that...except for the timing. He should have been told he wasn't wanted. Or rules should have been drawn up preventing him from going. The court case still hadn't finished at the time. Disgusting. The officials put him through another Salem witch trial. All for show...to appear to be serious. It was all a PR task designed to manipulate the publics perception. As I said...follow you damn rules, keep your word and let the courts deal with criminal matters. It really is simple.

That piece of officialdom was bad sportsmanship. You don't lead people astray. Be harsh, yes that is ok, but be upfront and honest about it. Just like Nick did in his interview. He made a mistake and deserves a second chance. Some people feel the need to kick the boot in a few more times. Makes them feel like big men/women. Australia isn't about petty whims. particularly in sports. As I said, there is always some tool out there dragging the character of our country through the mud. One bad action does not merit another. No exceptions.

 

[JA.Tri]

Appropriate rules = good sports

@Galic Ho

Concur!

Rules need to be transparent, up front and applied consistently!!

No exceptions. Such actions will contribute to good sporting behaviour.