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I have a feeling that Movistar absolutely will dominate that race.
Isn't it always pretty much? Some people crashes, some people unexpectedly gets better in the Vuelta than in the Tour or whatever, it usually ends up as a race on a very high level. But maybe more so this year than previous years, I will agree with that. The Giro-Tour doubles doesn't help on that.Red Rick said:
I have a feeling that Movistar absolutely will dominate that race.
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Don't worry, the three Movistar amigos will battle it out again after Le Tour.
Red Rick said:
Don't worry, the three Movistar amigos will battle it out again after Le Tour.
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Now, from one year to the next, Contador retired, Froome goes Giro/Tour, Nibali goes as Worlds prep, Dumoulin goes Giro/Tour, even the fresh blood in Bernal looks like he'll be a Froome slave in the Tour rather than getting his own shot.
The Vuelta has had very good fields in the last few years and in some cases easily the strongest field of the year, partially because of many of the stronger GT riders doubling up and because nobody in their right mind attempted Giro/Tour.Valv.Piti said:
Now, from one year to the next, Contador retired, Froome goes Giro/Tour, Nibali goes as Worlds prep, Dumoulin goes Giro/Tour, even the fresh blood in Bernal looks like he'll be a Froome slave in the Tour rather than getting his own shot.
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Sure, right now it looks like a weak Vuelta, but its hard to say anything until after the Tour depending on lots of stuff.
We could see a surprise winner, but the Movistar-riders haven't ridden much and are probably all going for Tour + Vuelta. Apart from that, its hard to see so many contender as of now. Bernal could realistically have won, I think.
We could see a surprise winner, but the Movistar-riders haven't ridden much and are probably all going for Tour + Vuelta. Apart from that, its hard to see so many contender as of now. Bernal could realistically have won, I think.
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If he can be good for 3 weeks already, then sure. Right now it seems to me it would be great for Yates to go for it. 3rd week breakdown shouldn't be nearly as much of a problem in this Vuelta than in this Giro. But then there's the Worlds.Valv.Piti said:
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Very different dynamics this year, with a climbers World Championship.
I think a lot of potential medal winners, will ride the Vuelta as warm up.
- Now riding all the way to Madrid, is another matter
Red Rick said:
Very different dynamics this year, with a climbers World Championship.
I think a lot of potential medal winners, will ride the Vuelta as warm up.
- Now riding all the way to Madrid, is another matter
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All depends what gaps they are starting with, between (especially) the first 3 groups.
If 10-20 seconds - sure
If 1 minute - they will never see the leaders again
The most interesting part to me, about this new way of starting, is that teams with a lieutenant hovering around 20th on the first 16 stages, will want them to ride to stay within the 20, because of stage 17.
Without the special stage 17, we would just see them drop off completely, as nobody really cares if they are 18th or 25th overall.
This will create a bunch of "Nieves" we have not seen before, riding to preserve position, rather than to save strength.
LaFlorecita said:
All depends what gaps they are starting with, between (especially) the first 3 groups.
If 10-20 seconds - sure
If 1 minute - they will never see the leaders again
The most interesting part to me, about this new way of starting, is that teams with a lieutenant hovering around 20th on the first 16 stages, will want them to ride to stay within the 20, because of stage 17.
Without the special stage 17, we would just see them drop off completely, as nobody really cares if they are 18th or 25th overall.
This will create a bunch of "Nieves" we have not seen before, riding to preserve position, rather than to save strength.
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I really dont get this Bernal hype. I know he is a extreme talented guy, but look at his results and tell me how can this show anything that makes you think he can perform over 3 weeks and win the GC in the Vuelta. In catalunya the guy was going really great but was second to a guy who I hardly doubt can be a GT podium contender anymore. In Romandie he was beaten by Roglic, which never did a top 10 in a GC and in California the only guy he beat that is a top 10 GT GC contender was Yates coming from an injury.
I´m not downsizing is achievements, I just dont get how a guy who never raced a GT, and never shown any capability whatsoever to hold a shape for three weeks be considered an hevy favourite for the Vuelta. I still think he can make top 5 or so but from top 5 to win it goes a big distance.
Valv.Piti said:
I really dont get this Bernal hype. I know he is a extreme talented guy, but look at his results and tell me how can this show anything that makes you think he can perform over 3 weeks and win the GC in the Vuelta. In catalunya the guy was going really great but was second to a guy who I hardly doubt can be a GT podium contender anymore. In Romandie he was beaten by Roglic, which never did a top 10 in a GC and in California the only guy he beat that is a top 10 GT GC contender was Yates coming from an injury.
I´m not downsizing is achievements, I just dont get how a guy who never raced a GT, and never shown any capability whatsoever to hold a shape for three weeks be considered an hevy favourite for the Vuelta. I still think he can make top 5 or so but from top 5 to win it goes a big distance.
The Vuelta field will be strong - Some of the Giro protagonists will be riding, along with riders backing up from the TDF which will include the three amigos from Movistar, Porte, Nibali and Uran - The field will be strong enough - The most interesting rider in the TDF will be Quintana whose had a quiet start to the season - I have no idea how he will perform in this race.
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6/4, William Hill, "If Chris Froome will not start TDF 2018 the bet will be voided."
Avoriaz said:
6/4, William Hill, "If Chris Froome will not start TDF 2018 the bet will be voided."
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Where is Roglic? There are some riders that are not proven GC and are there. So should Roglic.Gigs_98 said:
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Movistar's 3 amigos will be going from the Tour to the Vuelta although most likely a slight shuffling of positions where Valverde will be the first leader as he's chasing history there. He, Landa as most likely a nice percentage of the Movistar team will also be using la Vuelta to get ready for the Worlds. Bahrain will most likely also swap leaders from Nibali at the Tour to one or both of the Izagirre brothers at la Vuelta.
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