Pressure on UCI mounting

[coinneach]

......a hyena gnawing at the UCI carcass after other people delivered a serious (fatal?) blow.

And it's not like he is alone at that.

So **** him

In your dreams!
What fatal blow????????????
The UCI is alive and well and still in total control
We need more Millars & JVs, and the rest of us need to get behind them rather than giving them grief.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Whatever. UCI will be soon alone. Without the big sponsor money, they are nothing.
Cycling will become as obscure as the Inline Skate Hockey League.

 

[Bushranger]

In your dreams!
What fatal blow????????????
The UCI is alive and well and still in total control
We need more Millars & JVs, and the rest of us need to get behind them rather than giving them grief.

I totally agree. However, everyone who has read anything about cycling in the past couple of years knows that they are corrupt. We know, and they know we all know it. They don't care. As long as they remain in control of the gravy train the rest of us don't matter. Sad to say, but I fear not much will change.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

You want pressure? Check this out. The premiere sports TV channel in the world is calling out the UCI's credibility.

ESPN video about possible collusion between drug testers USPS cyclists. Fast forward to about the 2 min mark. The UCI's entire credibility is at stake.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OLXzOO473Z8

premiere sports channel in the world?? ahahah in usa maybe where cycling means nothing

 

[User Guide]

Whatever. UCI will be soon alone. Without the big sponsor money, they are nothing.
Cycling will become as obscure as the Inline Skate Hockey League.

How much of UCI's income is derived from sponsors though? Not much id guess
And more to the point how much of the twin fat ********* income ?
The new races in mid east and china where they get the $$$ from

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

What pressure? Pressure that they might need to change the upholstery on the board room chairs. Pressure that they might need some new art work in the hallways.

The UCI don't face pressure. From whom? From where?

the aso. the aso will break away 100% if verbruggen and co will stay after next weeks uci press conference. and uci need aso, aso doesn't need uci too much

 

[Dutchsmurf]

In your dreams!
What fatal blow????????????
The UCI is alive and well and still in total control
We need more Millars & JVs, and the rest of us need to get behind them rather than giving them grief.

The last thing we need is more Millars and JVs. It is a good thing they spoke up, but they both only did it after getting caught. The sport needs people without the history of a Millar to speak out. Millar and co aren't the solution, they are part of the problem. But the deafening silence from the people who could make a difference (the current young riders who say they are clean) shows enough.

 

[Fidolix]

Yes, just like the IOC, FIFA and other sports bodies there's not many ways to pressurize top management of the UCI, even with damning newspaper items and even with evidence of fraud.

I wonder though what the response would be if there is further loss of top sponsors like Rabobank?

If the sport loses it´s sponsors.
I don´t think you can get more pressure than that, and it will happen.

 

[thehog]

The threat is not ASO. Its Sporttive cycling. Mass participation events not controlled by the UCI.

The groundswell in cycling is not at a racing level but in mass participation events and Grand Fondos.

The freakshow on wheels that is Pro cycling is not longer interesting. Especially when the results are contrived.

 

[roundabout]

In your dreams!
What fatal blow????????????
The UCI is alive and well and still in total control
We need more Millars & JVs, and the rest of us need to get behind them rather than giving them grief.

In that case I can't get behind the guy who thinks that Pat is ok and it's chancellor Heinricus who is the villain.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

The threat is not ASO. Its Sporttive cycling. Mass participation events not controlled by the UCI.

The groundswell in cycling is not at a racing level but in mass participation events and Grand Fondos.

The freakshow on wheels that is Pro cycling is not longer interesting. Especially when the results are contrived.

grandfondo's and big cycling evens mean nothing. this isn't marathon running. it's all about status of races and without aso, uci have no grand tours and almost no monuments. nobody will watch tour of china, so teams and sponsors will follow aso. but I expect/hope uci to be wiser than that and throw verbruggen and that drunk idiot irish friend of him out

 

[thehog]

grandfondo's and big cycling evens mean nothing. this isn't marathon running. it's all about status of races and without aso, uci have no grand tours and almost no monuments. nobody will watch tour of china, so teams and sponsors will follow aso. but I expect/hope uci to be wiser than that and throw verbruggen and that drunk idiot irish friend of him out

You missed my point. The UCI gets their money from the racing licences/federations and the teams also contribute.

Less people racing, less sponsors means bad news for the UCI.

However that money is not leaving the sport. Its going into Grand Fondos. Sponsors see it as a better investment. Many Italian and French Sportive's are televised and now you're seeing ex-Pro's ride them and they've created the new "race in an event" concept which has a starting pen at the front which races.

That's where the money is and its not controlled by the UCI.

ASO keep all the money for themselves and prize money. The UCI gets very little from ASO events. Only payment to administer the events. That's why they set up GCP.

 

[RichWalk]

Sounds like La Gazzetta suggesting the UCI decision on USADA will air Monday (RR on twitter)

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

You missed my point. The UCI gets their money from the racing licences/federations and the teams also contribute.

Less people racing, less sponsors means bad news for the UCI.

However that money is not leaving the sport. Its going into Grand Fondos. Sponsors see it as a better investment. Many Italian and French Sportive's are televised and now you're seeing ex-Pro's ride them and they've created the new "race in an event" concept which has a starting pen at the front which races.

That's where the money is and its not controlled by the UCI.

ASO keep all the money for themselves and prize money. The UCI gets very little from ASO events. Only payment to administer the events. That's why they set up GCP.

aso get very little from uci yes. but aso could turn it as far as uci having to pay aso. without aso they are done and they certainly ain't happy with uci. lance already got stripped of everything and aso didn't wait uci's verdict

 

[coinneach]

In that case I can't get behind the guy who thinks that Pat is ok and it's chancellor Heinricus who is the villain.

I take your point: I don´t agree with everything DM & JV say, either.
But, on the whole, I´m on the same side, and I see them as part of the solution, not the problem.

 

[Catwhoorg]

grandfondo's and big cycling evens mean nothing. this isn't marathon running. it's all about status of races and without aso, uci have no grand tours and almost no monuments. nobody will watch tour of china, so teams and sponsors will follow aso. but I expect/hope uci to be wiser than that and throw verbruggen and that drunk idiot irish friend of him out

Maybe it is becoming more like that though.
Participation events, Charity rides. Supported 100 milers for the weekend warriors.

Pro cycling could basically become marginalised by these events.

 

[coinneach]

The last thing we need is more Millars and JVs. It is a good thing they spoke up, but they both only did it after getting caught. The sport needs people without the history of a Millar to speak out. Millar and co aren't the solution, they are part of the problem. But the deafening silence from the people who could make a difference (the current young riders who say they are clean) shows enough.

There is no "deafining silence" from young riders saying they are clean: there´s just not much news in that.
There´s no incentive for them to confess to anything they may have done, and loose their jobs.
And if they point the finger at others, without corroboration, they are in a very sticky place indeed

 

[Big Daddy]

So far Radio Millar comes across as a hyena gnawing at the UCI carcass after other people delivered a serious (fatal?) blow.

And it's not like he is alone at that.

So **** him

I'm never gonna condone any athlete that speaks out against doping and the UCI regardless of their past transgressions.

 

[Tinman]

the aso. the aso will break away 100% if verbruggen and co will stay after next weeks uci press conference. and uci need aso, aso doesn't need uci too much

I wonder if the major sponsors are also having a quiet chat among themselves right now, especially after Rabo pulling the plug.

Sponsors and ASO talking to some of the national feds may be what shifts Pat & Hein, with a sweetener, ie rights to promote the sport for the next 5 years in certain new world countries, eg China & Asia...

 

[coinneach]

I'm never gonna condone any athlete that speaks out against doping and the UCI regardless of their past transgressions.

Do you use the word condone the same way I do?

 

[webvan]

Looks like the UCI is feeling less litigious these days...Rabo's comment would certainly have been viewed as "defamation" a few weeks ago

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/uci-responds-to-rabobank-withdrawal

Rabobank's main reason for ending its sponsorship of the professional men's and women's teams were the allegations made in the USADA report about the UCI's complicity in US Postal's doping scheme. "The report shows that the international cycling world is flawed. Doping is supported even within the highest institutions of the cycling world. Our conclusion is thus that there is no way out of it

and...

The UCI press office did not seek to defend itself against these allegations directly

 

[BigBoat]

To me it certainly looks like UCI is going to appeal the Lance case....Heiny texted that there's no proof. If they don't then maybe Heiny is no longer being engaged by the UCI people & doesn't know what will happen on monday. Or he's just jumping the gun because that's his personality.

As far as the sponsor pulling out, I think Robobank made the wrong decision if their trying to attack the UCI and go against doping...the UCI can spin this that its their case against Barredo that caused the team to fold, and not many people will have read Robo's statement. If that's what their trying to do the cycling media should stress Robo's statement.

It could be that the UCI learned of robo pulling out a while ago and decided to prosecute Bareddo before the sponsor pulling made headlines to make it look like their suffering for their 'fight against doping.'

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

rabo';s real reason of getting out is obviously not the uci, but all the bad press and media pressure. they just thought while going out we might as well give a swing at uci

 

[frenchfry]

According to l'Equipe, UCI verdict coming Monday.

http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme-sur-route/Actualites/Armstrong-verdict-de-l-uci-lundi/320744

 

[webvan]

If the UCI appeals FatPat and Heiny are going to be in all kinds of trouble...besides Heiny said he had been misquoted.

Good point about emphasizing Rabo's reasons, thats what VN did and I had indeed missed that part about the UCI.