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Primož Roglič

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or look at it this way. could the UCI stand the risk of actually catching someone (publicly) with motors at a big race? that would look just as bad for them and make the whole sport look farcical. if anyone has ever actually been caught in the pro peloton then it would've been quickly swept under the rug with possibly some kind of silent ban.
I think it takes a special kind of philosophy to be OK with motor doping. I don’t deny it exists, but I just can’t imagine who would use it especially among top riders to begin with. These are riders that made it to the top without a motor, clean or not, and then decided to use one. They would have to have some sort of axe to grind in order to justify it if they’ve already been winning at the highest level without that type of assistance.
 
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I think it takes a special kind of philosophy to be OK with motor doping. I don’t deny it exists, but I just can’t imagine who would use it especially among top riders to begin with. These are riders that made it to the top without a motor, clean or not, and then decided to use one. They would have to have some sort of axe to grind in order to justify it if they’ve already been winning at the highest level without that type of assistance.
I agree. The legacy of a top rider that, for some reason decided to extend a career at that risk to a longer-time reputation is unlikely. Up and comers are cheap and the means to execute a plan when team mechanics are involved make it even less likely.
Time to move on.
 
I think it takes a special kind of philosophy to be OK with motor doping. I don’t deny it exists, but I just can’t imagine who would use it especially among top riders to begin with. These are riders that made it to the top without a motor, clean or not, and then decided to use one. They would have to have some sort of axe to grind in order to justify it if they’ve already been winning at the highest level without that type of assistance.

money.
 
IMO, money doesn't mean it happens with top tier riders. In fact, if motor doping was ever employed by a rider in the UCI World Tour I'd be stunned. I think where it was discovered was in lower grades or women's racing?

Motor doping seems like a conspiracy theory to put down riders we don't like. And while it may seem easy to conceal a motor, its even easier to detect them - despite all the expensive x-ray machines etc. Look and you will find. You can't say this of traditional doping, particularly blood doping with passport cases sometimes taking years to resolve e.g. Cobo.

The consequences of being caught for motor doping for the rider, team and sport are far greater than being caught for all other forms of doping. Certainly such risk would not be taken by big money teams and their even bigger name big sponsors with billion dollar brands to protect.

No way do I believe Roglic could ever have resorted to motor doping.
 
IMO, money doesn't mean it happens with top tier riders. In fact, if motor doping was ever employed by a rider in the UCI World Tour I'd be stunned. I think where it was discovered was in lower grades or women's racing?

Motor doping seems like a conspiracy theory to put down riders we don't like. And while it may seem easy to conceal a motor, its even easier to detect them - despite all the expensive x-ray machines etc. Look and you will find. You can't say this of traditional doping, particularly blood doping with passport cases sometimes taking years to resolve e.g. Cobo.

The consequences of being caught for motor doping for the rider, team and sport are far greater than being caught for all other forms of doping. Certainly such risk would not be taken by big money teams and their even bigger name big sponsors with billion dollar brands to protect.

No way do I believe Roglic could ever have resorted to motor doping.

this is exactly what they want you to think. armstrongs doping was once also considered "conspiracy theory" too.

(FTR, I also don't think Roglic is/was motordoping, IMO the era in which that happened pre-dated his rise to prominence)
 
this is exactly what they want you to think. armstrongs doping was once also considered "conspiracy theory" too.

(FTR, I also don't think Roglic is/was motordoping, IMO the era in which that happened pre-dated his rise to prominence)
Who are "they"? Armstrong's team and deluded fans were the ones that accepted that "conspiracy theory". I'm surprised he didn't trademark the phrase "Witchhunt". So many other guilty as*holes use it he might have made a buck. The Armstrong saga is a great example of the negative financial and personal consequences for all involved.
Lower level riders, amateurs and douchebag Masters racers may well try it because the technology is available. Cheaper to dope and avoid detection and the consequences stay with the primary guilty party.
 
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It's early days. His performance so far isn't a million miles from where he was in the first half of the giro last year.

I suspect he'll do reasonably well in the TT on Friday, then come that final day TT we're going to see some absolutely bonkers times (whether from Rog or whoever else).
 
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Hindley has been overrated since his Giro win. Vlasov is the bigger concern if he doesn’t improve.
The fact that hindley did his massive giro week 3 super peak a second time increased his stock a lot.

Up until 2022 giro he was considered a bit of a joke who had an absurd one-off 2020 giro. But then he did it a second time and he won the giro , and it's like, ok wow he's actually a really talented GT rider built for week 3.

But then instead of doing it at the tour, he's going back to being mediocre again. Strange

Vlasov is literally just Russian valverde, flying all year from January to October in stage races and hilly classics but struggling with altitude and big mountains