Pro Cycling Graph Of Nationalities

[Cobblestoned]

Only 3.5%, and by help of just one rider we won 75% out of all proraces so far.

Thats dangerous.

 

[Cam...]

Cycling culture is definately not an argument for Australia. There are many many countries way ahead of Australia in that regard.

Colombia is in every concievable way infinately superior to Australia when it comes to hosting a Grand Tour.

Way more mountains, way closer together (transfers) way way way greater cycling culture, significantly greater fanbase, experience of hosting races.

Portugal likewise.

I like the idea of Colombia. It has an extensive domestic elite racing calendar and a challenging UCI2.2 two week tour (Vuelta a Colombia). Awesome potential for epic mountain stages.

Colombia would have my vote over Australia, too; that's not even taking into account broader cultural opportunities, like visiting local coffee growers (which I'd personally be interested in doing).

 

[PCutter]

History.

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If I'd know they were going to cover pro cycling I might have studied it! They should really put that in the brochure

 

[theyoungest]

yet most of them are mediocre appearently because we're not even near the wt ranking top 5 most iof the time

Yes. That's why it's ridiculous, such a small pond, and so many WT riders. You could say the same for Belgium, but at least they're completely cycling crazy.

 

[craig1985]

karlboss did a hypothetical 3 week Australian GT in the Race Design Thread and he more or less kept it to the East Coast of Australia because that's where any decent riding will be and the major problem of being able to link one mountain passes to another without a lot of flat in between. You would have over a week and half of racing from Perth to Adelaide, except it will be long, flat with headwinds, crosswinds etc. for over 160km each day. We have the Tour of Qatar for that FFS.

 

[greenedge]

Intresting to see that Australia is 6th.

Italy and Spain are close. Overall Spains' GT riders have been better over the last 5 years and with Valverde/ Sanchez they have won Classics/ Olympic RR. Contador and Freire have also brought in quite a few good wins. However their youngsters do not seem to be coming through as much as Italys'. I am excited by Castrajevo and Landa though.

Italy have a better domestic racing scene/ monuments/ a better GT/ more all round depth ( and reat riders like Basso, Petacchi and Bettini over the last 5 years )

 

[El Pistolero]

If I'd know they were going to cover pro cycling I might have studied it! They should really put that in the brochure

Haha, it really only got a small mention. We were talking about development of professional sports like football, rugby and only a small mention of cycling

Though, if you go to any course the day after the Ronde, 90% chance the professor mentions it at least ones during his course. In Belgium of course.

Last year a professor asked who watched the race and nearly everyone raised his hands(100+ people).

 

[The Hitch]

Last year a professor asked who watched the race and nearly everyone raised his hands(100+ people).

Even the foreign students

Great story though. Love it.

 

[clipperton]

Colombia is in every concievable way infinately superior to Australia when it comes to hosting a Grand Tour.

much as i agree on soooo many different levels, and please pardon the pun, but good farcing luck getting me on an isolated country road in the middle of colombia.

 

[Michielveedeebee]

Haha, it really only got a small mention. We were talking about development of professional sports like football, rugby and only a small mention of cycling

Though, if you go to any course the day after the Ronde, 90% chance the professor mentions it at least ones during his course. In Belgium of course.

Last year a professor asked who watched the race and nearly everyone raised his hands(100+ people).

Our physics professor was always talking about how ridiculous Contador was for not admitting he doped, and then he went on about how Cavendish had a lot of fast-twitch muscles etc etc...

 

[Cobber]

Numbers reworked as a percentage relative to population:

ned 14.8
bel 29.9
den 17.2
ger 1.4
ita 6.9
gbr 1.4
rus 0.8
kaz 4.6
esp 8.3
fra 5.1
aus 9.1
usa 0.4

So, the 3 GTs should be in the Netherlands, Belgium and Denmark!

 

[Magnus]

first, that isn't a graph, a graph is a chart with a line signifying the results. that is a graphic of the results.

It's a graph.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graph
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graph_(mathematics)

Countries are connected to World Tour cyclist-populations (and there are even lines signifying the results).

 

[Wilba60]

This stuff is really interesting to me. I've had this pet project of tracking all-time riders through a ranking system, and the striking things that I've noticed about demographics are:

- Aussies are exploding on the scene; it's interesting to note that so many Aussies are good TTers, I'm assuming this might be because of the focus on track cycling at the top levels there (just like the UK has done somewhat in recent years).

It would be interesting to see more in-depth data.

Cam thanks for the article, I enjoyed reading it. I wonder if you ever get the chance to do more articles, I would love to know about the physiology of the male riders from the different participating countries. In the quote from skidmark above his observations about Aussie riders are very similar to comments made at different times on the GreenEdge thread about the proliferation of sprinters and TTers within the team (considering just the 17 Aussie GE riders in this post).
It would be interesting to see if certain countries are more likely to produce (as a general rule) more riders of one type or discipline. I know that isn't in the scope of your article but just makes for interesting reading against the facts your charts show

 

[FignonLeGrand]

well-just another proff that Cycling is indeed a LATIN sport

Latin sport; are we all meant to ride around wearing togas and reading the classics rather than riding them? assuming you refer to Spain and Italy and possibly include France that leaves you in a clear minortiy of about 35%.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Our physics professor was always talking about how ridiculous Contador was for not admitting he doped, and then he went on about how Cavendish had a lot of fast-twitch muscles etc etc...

Belgium looks cool like that.

 

[Panda Claws]

Yeah Belgium is a lot more cycling-crazy than other countries, but football/soccer is still a lot more popular though.

 

[theyoungest]

Yeah Belgium is a lot more cycling-crazy than other countries, but football/soccer is still a lot more popular though.

Don't say that, it makes the achievements of the Red Devils seem pretty sad

But I reckon the relative number of cyclists in Belgium is the highest by far of any country. And I mean real cyclists, not people who own a bike, otherwise Holland would probably win.

 

[Magnus]

Don't say that, it makes the achievements of the Red Devils seem pretty sad

But I reckon the relative number of cyclists in Belgium is the highest by far of any country. And I mean real cyclists, not people who own a bike, otherwise Holland would probably win.

At least according to this:
http://top10hell.com/top-10-countries-with-most-bicycles-per-capita/

But the conclusion (that 99.1% of the Dutch are cyclists) seems a bit off imo. I mean, had there been 1 million bicycles more in the Netherlands, would more than 100% of the population be cyclists

 

[FignonLeGrand]

At least according to this:
http://top10hell.com/top-10-countries-with-most-bicycles-per-capita/

But the conclusion (that 99.1% of the Dutch are cyclists) seems a bit off imo. I mean, had there been 1 million bicycles more in the Netherlands, would more than 100% of the population be cyclists

I always thought there were more bikes than people in Holland, 'everyone' has one (almost) and lots have more than 1. Agree though doesnt mean 99.1% do cycle.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Numbers reworked as a percentage relative to population:


So, the 3 GTs should be in the Netherlands, Belgium and Denmark!

Lol, that'd be something...

 

[CobbleStoner]

It's a graph.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graph
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graph_(mathematics)

Countries are connected to World Tour cyclist-populations (and there are even lines signifying the results).

sorry, it's not a graph.
but my opinion results from being a native English speaker.
If your American school teacher asked you to draw a graph representing pro cyclists and their country of origin, and you turned in that, you would receive an F.
maybe different in Denmark though
might not want to trust wikipedia too much

 

[theyoungest]

At least according to this:
http://top10hell.com/top-10-countries-with-most-bicycles-per-capita/

But the conclusion (that 99.1% of the Dutch are cyclists) seems a bit off imo. I mean, had there been 1 million bicycles more in the Netherlands, would more than 100% of the population be cyclists

That's what I mean with cyclists versus people who own a bike... every Dutchman owns at least one bike (unless they're disabled or something), but cycling as a sport is a different story.

It's a bit like looking at the number of cars in America and thinking: wow, they must be great at Formula 1.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Our physics professor was always talking about how ridiculous Contador was for not admitting he doped, and then he went on about how Cavendish had a lot of fast-twitch muscles etc etc...

I don't like him.

 

[Magnus]

sorry, it's not a graph.
but my opinion results from being a native English speaker.
If your American school teacher asked you to draw a graph representing pro cyclists and their country of origin, and you turned in that, you would receive an F.
maybe different in Denmark though
might not want to trust wikipedia too much

Although wikipedia isn't always right I think the discription

"Graph may refer to:
A graphic (such as a chart or diagram) depicting the relationship between two or more variables used, for instance, in visualising scientific data."

seems fair. And it is congruent (imo) with Webster's Comprehensive:

"A diagram indicationg any sort of relationship between two or more things by means of a system of dots, curves, bars or lines."

except that Webster's is more specific about the means of indicating the relationship.

In math terms it is a graph or at least it represents a graph, but that is the same thing.


Off course you might well use a definition of the term Graph that the picture in OP doesn't fulfill but looking into the etymology it seems fair to called the picture in OP a graph.

 

[Richeypen]

the whole article is silly. The author is claiming that Australia could have a grand tour based on the fact they have roads, hotels and airports.

So does Devon :S

Now thats an idea and a half