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Mountain Goat said:
Actually, I think MV was being smart by spelling it as "baited", meaning that the poster was trying to "bait" everyone by being the first to mention Armstrong in a clear non-Armstrong thread...

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About the thread, I am starting to think that with the Soccer players involved, even if OP was blown open to reveal 200 names, the impact on soccer would be greater than the impact on cycling, as this kind of practice is almost unheard of in soccer except by the people that really investigate doping (the forum dudes). Perhaps its the spanish soccer league/association that are really trying to shut this case down and supress names

No need to say perhaps ;)

The RFEF is likely the most or one of the most corrupt sport associations in the world. Far more than the UCI. The OP was going on fairly ok until the names Real Madrid and Barcelona appeared. Not like a single Spanish athlete got a sanction, but at least the police was doing a fine job. But then everything stopped, and nothing more was known about the OP. That's it.
 
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Mountain Goat said:
Actually, I think MV was being smart by spelling it as "baited", meaning that the poster was trying to "bait" everyone by being the first to mention Armstrong in a clear non-Armstrong thread...

I'll grab me coat.
 
Mellow Velo said:
With no constructive content an any cycling subject, I think that your first phrase should read: "I'm just waiting with baited breath...":rolleyes:

Another tool for our toolbox.

Agreed, the SS Speedway is a bit of a troll, yes? I mean, a post on LA on this thread? It kinda makes me chuckle, may be he could post some rants in other completely inappropriate places such as cyclocross.
 
Grilled said:
... I really think this one is more volatile due to the soccer player's inclusion in the list.

Exactly. I can tell you that from a european perspective that it is the soccer business that has given the dopers the gift of impunity here. Had it merely been a cycling scandal alla Festina, we would have had more names.:cool:
 
I still don't understand why DNA samples weren't requested for all athletes in the implicated sports, or at least cycling. If your DNA matches the contents of a blood bag held by Fuentes BOOM!!! See you in two years bugalugs. Then people MIGHT start believing in the anti-doping authorities.
 
42x16ss said:
I still don't understand why DNA samples weren't requested for all athletes in the implicated sports, or at least cycling. If your DNA matches the contents of a blood bag held by Fuentes BOOM!!! See you in two years bugalugs. Then people MIGHT start believing in the anti-doping authorities.

For the same reasons why we don't get a serious anti-doping crackdown on US football or baseball. Too much money invested to be able to have anti-doping be serious and effective. Plus the nationalist component.

Here, however, it is the soccer (as well as a few other big money sports like tennis) component that has led to there not being a retroactive law coming about and thus a complete cover up.

Don't believe the legal arguments. For they are merely an alibi to hide what is truly the underlying factor of this shameful and scandalous affair: big business (as usual).
 
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rhubroma said:
200 blood sacks, 3 id's. Then it all gets swept under the carpet. If a retroactive law doesn't exsist in Spain, then the courts-parliament enacts a new law which makes retroactivity applicable to this case.

The real issue is that there has been a total lack of political/judicial will to bring the dopers to justice. In this sense justice itself has been subordinated to the economic interests of corporate sponsorship and Spanish nationalism. The athletes have been covered up in the greater economic interests of the corporate driven sport world.

Which is all very sad and demonstrates that, by now, sport is merely about money. Nothing else.

You said it all.